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05-08-2023, 03:29 AM
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Questions on laws in Republican states. I'm bummed out about Illinois laws being soft
1st off I was brainwashed in college about intent. Intent seems to mean almost nothing in Illinois.
If a person intended to kill someone, and shot them and that person survived, they won't do 90% of a murder time, but more like 10-20%.
Is this any different in Florida/Ohio and other red states?
Then, 1 time I lost a credit card and immediately deactivated it, but someone attempted to swipe $550 worth of stuff at a Macy's, was declined. 2 minutes later, declined a $450.
Well, Macy's refused to send surveillance cameras to police unless police asked for it 1st. And since no money was actually stolen, police didn't care to look into it (but the intent is still there).
Is this any different in Florida/Ohio and other red states as well?
Those are my 2 questions, for the 2 scenarios, thanks.
If a person intended to kill someone, and shot them and that person survived, they won't do 90% of a murder time, but more like 10-20%.
Is this any different in Florida/Ohio and other red states?
Then, 1 time I lost a credit card and immediately deactivated it, but someone attempted to swipe $550 worth of stuff at a Macy's, was declined. 2 minutes later, declined a $450.
Well, Macy's refused to send surveillance cameras to police unless police asked for it 1st. And since no money was actually stolen, police didn't care to look into it (but the intent is still there).
Is this any different in Florida/Ohio and other red states as well?
Those are my 2 questions, for the 2 scenarios, thanks.
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05-08-2023, 03:42 AM
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Attempted murder will still get you serious time, it varies from 10-15 years and even life with the possibility of parole. It comes down to the judge and/or jury.
You can't really do chit about the credit card thing. All you can do is get your money reimbursed from the credit card company after reporting fraud.
You can't really do chit about the credit card thing. All you can do is get your money reimbursed from the credit card company after reporting fraud.
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05-08-2023, 06:11 AM
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Red states are so much more practical than blue states.
I lived in Chicago and when i moved to Florida it was a giant culture shock when i 1st got here.
I thought we had to register our guns, pay state taxes, worry about crime just like back home but things were really different.
People were much nicer, no state taxes, no need to register my guns to any authority. It was weird but then i became acclimated to the way things are here and comparing the two states, i am so glad i moved to a red state
I will vote red from here on out to keep my state the way it is
I lived in Chicago and when i moved to Florida it was a giant culture shock when i 1st got here.
I thought we had to register our guns, pay state taxes, worry about crime just like back home but things were really different.
People were much nicer, no state taxes, no need to register my guns to any authority. It was weird but then i became acclimated to the way things are here and comparing the two states, i am so glad i moved to a red state
I will vote red from here on out to keep my state the way it is
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05-08-2023, 06:18 AM
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For the first example intent does matter, but it makes prosecution much more difficult. Reason being if you attack someone and they don’t die it’s hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you intended to kill then. So a lot of times they’ll go with something easier to prove like assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature or some other more serious attack that doesn’t require proving intent and then seek the maximum punishment for that crime.
For your 2nd scenario not really sure. Seems like your example would probably be somewhat common in a lot of places as it’s a “no harm no foul” kind of thing. Now if someone was actually attempting to break into your house that’s different, but it’s probably harder to spend those resources trying to find someone who just “attempted” to use a stolen card.
For your 2nd scenario not really sure. Seems like your example would probably be somewhat common in a lot of places as it’s a “no harm no foul” kind of thing. Now if someone was actually attempting to break into your house that’s different, but it’s probably harder to spend those resources trying to find someone who just “attempted” to use a stolen card.
05-08-2023, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps⏩
It should be the death penalty, so pretty soft if you ask me.Attempted murder will still get you serious time, it varies from 10-15 years and even life with the possibility of parole. It comes down to the judge and/or jury.
You can't really do chit about the credit card thing. All you can do is get your money reimbursed from the credit card company after reporting fraud.
You can't really do chit about the credit card thing. All you can do is get your money reimbursed from the credit card company after reporting fraud.
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05-08-2023, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Should depend on if you stabbed them, if you shot them in close range and only in the legs.For the first example intent does matter, but it makes prosecution much more difficult. Reason being if you attack someone and they don’t die it’s hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you intended to kill then.
If you shot them from a driving vehicle that should show intent right there.
For the 2nd 1, has anyone heard of any cases where a person was prosecuted from successfully using a stolen card?
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