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post 1682391603 05-09-2023, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Not nearly as many as there are for cars/driving, derp.
Not if you only drive your car on your own property and don't use public roads.
Would kick em in the nuts
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie
And yet cars are still killing 3x that of guns.
And that's on ACCIDENT. Vehicles are a lot more dangerous than guns.
Would kick em in the nuts
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Still no answers lol
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie
Still no answers lol
It's because those retards don't have any answers. They can only repeat the lines they heard on cnn.
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post 1682396393 05-09-2023, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie
And yet cars are still killing 3x that of guns.

And cars are used for mass murder.

So again. Why don’t they call for more car control?
How many more people drive a car than carry a firearm? Ah ha... son.

But yes, there needs to be more car control. Far too many dumbfukks driving currently, but in about 20 years it will be all self-driving cars, so it's kind of a moot point, son.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
How many more people drive a car than carry a firearm? Ah ha... son.

But yes, there needs to be more car control. Far too many dumbfukks driving currently, but in about 20 years it will be all self-driving cars, so it's kind of a moot point, son.
So 3x more deaths are fine because it’s used more frequently? Those lives don’t matter? Got it.

What car control needs to be done about these mass murder car rammings that kill the same amount of people as guns?
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie
Holy false info Batman.


Literally just showed you it didn’t stop homicides as murder rates never changed.

Also there was literally just a mass shooting in Australia in December and another in August lol. Wtf are you talking about 1996 for? Hahahah
Also I love how noliberals ignored this one lol.
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Originally Posted By fitnessislife
Self/home defense, hunting, collection, shooting range, etc. You can't actually be that stupid and think that guns are only for "murder".

And just like cars, guns are inanimate objects that do absolutely nothing unless operated by a human.

In short, it's none of your business why lawful gun owners like myself own guns. "Shall not be infringed" means that "it's mine, and youcan'thave it."
Lol @ hunting. That's literally a euphemism for murdering animals. Dahmer was a hunter.
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And there are gun regulations equivalent to the same.

Dummy.

Here is a suggestion. According to your logic....let's just ban murder.

Go play another speed round.
First, I never said to ban guns, Bumblebee, and I own guns and shoot more in a week than most all do here.

Secondly, LMFAO at suggesting guns have equal regulations as driving. It takes 6 months to get a driver license and you have to pass two tests; in most states all you have to do is pull out some cash - no fukks given if you know how to use one or not.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Lol @ hunting. That's literally a euphemism for murdering animals. Dahmer was a hunter.
Ah yes, I want to hear an opinion about hunting, one of the world's oldest pastimes not only for literal survival but also recreation, from the vegan.

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post 1682397663 05-09-2023, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Lol @ hunting. That's literally a euphemism for murdering animals. Dahmer was a hunter.



First, I never said to ban guns, Bumblebee, and I own guns and shoot more in a week than most all do here.

Secondly, LMFAO at suggesting guns have equal regulations as driving. It takes 6 months to get a driver license and you have to pass two tests; in most states all you have to do is pull out some cash - no fukks given if you know how to use one or not.
Lmao at even using drivers license as an example to prove your point LMFAOOO

You realize the license is simply to make sure you can safely operate the car so you don’t get into accidents?

It’s not as though mass shootings are done because the gun accidentally goes off.

Wtf would a license do to stop murders lmao. Really you would just make them more proficient at murdering. Is that what you want?
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Originally Posted By fitnessislife
Ah yes, I want to hear an opinion about hunting, one of the world's oldest pastimes not only for literal survival but also recreation, from the vegan.

Why do you drink water? That's a fish's house, you monster!
Your McDonald's biscuit-eating lard ass doesn't need to hunt for survival, son.
Originally Posted By tunejunkie
Lmao at even using drivers license as an example to prove your point LMFAOOO

You realize the license is simply to make sure you can safely operate the car so you don’t get into accidents?

It’s not as though mass shootings are done because the gun accidentally goes off.

Wtf would a license do to stop murders lmao. Really you would just make them more proficient at murdering. Is that what you want?
You dumb, son? You realize the amount of accidental gun deaths would go way, way down if people had to receive training before owning a gun?
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Your McDonald's biscuit-eating lard ass doesn't need to hunt for survival, son.



You dumb, son? You realize the amount of accidental gun deaths would go way, way down if people had to receive training before owning a gun?
Oh nice you’ve solved .01% of gun deaths

And mass shootings and normal gun homicides still remain

Way to go
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Your McDonald's biscuit-eating lard ass doesn't need to hunt for survival, son.
I haven’t been to McDonalds in years.

Oh, and just about nobody in the west needs to hunt for survival anymore, but millions do it because it’s fun. In fact, hunting helps with conservation efforts as well as wildlife population management.

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Originally Posted By tunejunkie
Oh nice you’ve solved .01% of gun deaths

And mass shootings and normal gun homicides still remain

Way to go
I like how you just pull a random number out yo ass, son.

But if you're so concerned about 99.99% of gun deaths, why are you sperging out about cars?
Originally Posted By fitnessislife
Oh, and just about nobody in the west needs to hunt for survival anymore, but millions do it because it’s fun.
Fun to murder animals, unless it's a cat or dog then it's srs biz, lmao.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
I like how you just pull a random number out yo ass, son.

But if you're so concerned about 99.99% of gun deaths, why are you sperging out about cars?



Fun to murder animals, unless it's a cat or dog then it's srs biz, lmao.
Do you even know how little accidental gun deaths are in comparison to total gun deaths?


I’m talking about cars to show the hypocrisy when it comes to folks “caring” about deaths.

They want guns gone because they don’t like guns and don’t see any use for it in their life. Guns being gone won’t change anything about their life. (Won’t change homicide rates either)

However they are perfectly fine with driving a vehicle that kills 3x more than all guns combined. 30,000 lives killed by the very tool they use and they don’t even bat an eye because the car makes life convenient. They never call for car control and they would never give up their car to save a life.
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie
Do you even know how little accidental gun deaths are in comparison to total gun deaths?


I’m talking about cars to show the hypocrisy when it comes to folks “caring” about deaths.

They want guns gone because they don’t like guns and don’t see any use for it in their life. Guns being gone won’t change anything about their life. (Won’t change homicide rates either)

However they are perfectly fine with driving a vehicle that kills 3x more than all guns combined. 30,000 lives killed by the very tool they use and they don’t even bat an eye because the car makes life convenient. They never call for car control and they would never give up their car to save a life.
Here, I'll simplify it for you: anyone who compares gun murders to car accidents is a retard.

Glad I could help, son.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Here, I'll simplify it for you: anyone who compares gun murders to car accidents is a retard.

Glad I could help, son.
Ahh yes. No leg to stand on so you resort to name calling.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Fun to murder animals, unless it's a cat or dog then it's srs biz, lmao.
Yup, exactly. Oh, and I like how you ignored the facts of hunting aiding conservation efforts and wildlife population management.

You're free to go hand out PETA pamphlets somewhere (which requires the murder of a tree).
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie
Ahh yes. No leg to stand on so you resort to name calling.
You tend to get a little bitter when you eat grass clippings.

You think he doesn't eat veggies anymore since that would literally be stealing a rabbit's food?
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie
Ahh yes. No leg to stand on so you resort to name calling.
I didn't call you a name.
Originally Posted By fitnessislife
Yup, exactly. Oh, and I like how you ignored the facts of hunting aiding conservation efforts and wildlife population management.

You're free to go hand out PETA pamphlets somewhere (which requires the murder of a tree).
Ah, the murdering of sentient trees. Okay, son.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
Here, I'll simplify it for you: anyone who compares gun murders to car accidents is a retard.

Glad I could help, son.
Not really. It is the same when you simplify it. This is what you have missed throughout this entire debate. You are so intent on putting other people down that you don't see the fallacy of your argument.


Most car accidents happen via negligence. Stupid people doing stupid things. Whether it be speeding or reckless driving or not paying attention. So in other words a basic lack of caring for their fellow man.

Murders? I place in the same category. People who lack compassion for their fellow human and who place no value in it.
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Whilst I'm not advocating for gun confiscation at all, the comparison between guns and cars is a very redneck means of arguing against gun control.



Car accidents are accidents, for starters. An accident is something which happens without foresight and rarely preventable. Until there is investigation afterwards and the determining factors are identified, and the car design is improved upon as much as possible to make itlessdangerous, assuming it was a significant factor.

AR-15s are designed for combat, and they're designed to be massively effective killing machines. That's why mass shooters tend to choose them: You can get a lot of killing done very quickly. It was designed for killing. Not hunting, there are better weapons for hunting. It carries a lot of ammo, which is good for taking down a lot of targets.

I've never shot an assault rifle, but I've shot quite a few hunting rifles designed to take buffalo and crocodiles. Whilst the stopping power is immense, you know what the first thing I thought when handling it? No fcking way could I do a mass shooting with this thing.




And I get that a car rampage isn't a car accident. The thing is a car isn't intentionally designed to be a deadly weapon. That is misappropriating its purpose. Plus, with a car rampage, you typically only get one shot at it and you kind of need a straight line. Once you bowl over the first lot of people, the jig will be up and everyone will scatter. You need to be in an open space if you plan on turning around and trying again. You are very likely to crash into something. All reasons which make a car a poor choice for mass killing.


And I've actually been at the scene of an attempted car rampage. The dude knocked over a few people then crashed into a cafe, then the crowd turned on him. He didn't kill anyone.
Back off, Warchild.

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I'm not sure I really see this argument. It probably is too easy to get a driving license in a lot of places, is your argument that there should be less driving regulations because people are still going to die in car accidents regardless of how many driving regulations there are?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Whilst I'm not advocating for gun confiscation at all, the comparison between guns and cars is a very redneck means of arguing against gun control.



Car accidents are accidents, for starters. An accident is something which happens without foresight and rarely preventable. Until there is investigation afterwards and the determining factors are identified, and the car design is improved upon as much as possible to make itlessdangerous, assuming it was a significant factor.

AR-15s are designed for combat, and they're designed to be massively effective killing machines. That's why mass shooters tend to choose them: You can get a lot of killing done very quickly. It was designed for killing. Not hunting, there are better weapons for hunting. It carries a lot of ammo, which is good for taking down a lot of targets.

I've never shot an assault rifle, but I've shot quite a few hunting rifles designed to take buffalo and crocodiles. Whilst the stopping power is immense, you know what the first thing I thought when handling it? No fcking way could I do a mass shooting with this thing.




And I get that a car rampage isn't a car accident. The thing is a car isn't intentionally designed to be a deadly weapon. That is misappropriating its purpose. Plus, with a car rampage, you typically only get one shot at it and you kind of need a straight line. Once you bowl over the first lot of people, the jig will be up and everyone will scatter. You need to be in an open space if you plan on turning around and trying again. You are very likely to crash into something. All reasons which make a car a poor choice for mass killing.


And I've actually been at the scene of an attempted car rampage. The dude knocked over a few people then crashed into a cafe, then the crowd turned on him. He didn't kill anyone.
Literally the largest mass killing done at one time was with a vehicle. Into a crowd. They didn’t scatter. He killed more people than any US mass shooting ever. And it took LESS than a minute. You have literally no idea what you’re talking about

Also no investigations are done for car accidents other than who was at fault. And after they scrape up the pieces and bodies it’s forgotten about. There is never a call for more car control after a car accident.

Which is exactly my point.
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie
Literally the largest mass killing done at one time was with a vehicle. Into a crowd. They didn’t scatter. He killed more people than any US mass shooting ever. And it took LESS than a minute. You have literally no idea what you’re talking about

Also no investigations are done for car accidents other than who was at fault. And after they scrape up the pieces and bodies it’s forgotten about. There is never a call for more car control after a car accident.

Which is exactly my point.
ok but mass shootings are becoming way too common. What's your solution?

That Nice attack happened almost 10 years ago. On the other hand, there's a new mass shooting every other day in America.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
AR-15s are designed for combat,
No they aren’t and they, to my knowledge, never have been used in combat
Originally Posted By Bodhy
and they're designed to be massively effective killing machines.
No they aren’t. And if they were, they would be massively ineffective as they are only used for less than 200 deaths per year.
Originally Posted By Bodhy
That's why mass shooters tend to choose them: You can get a lot of killing done very quickly. It was designed for killing. Not hunting, there are better weapons for hunting. It carries a lot of ammo, which is good for taking down a lot of targets.
No it isn’t. Very few mass shooters choose them – but you are only basing it off the mass shootings that the news covers. Most mass shooters opt for hand guns. Most mass shooters would maximize their deaths with a shotgun. The Vegas shooter would have had a lot more kills with a standard deer hunting rifle.
Originally Posted By Bodhy
I've never shot an assault rifle, but I've shot quite a few hunting rifles designed to take buffalo and crocodiles. Whilst the stopping power is immense, you know what the first thing I thought when handling it? No fcking way could I do a mass shooting with this thing.
Congrats – you’re a pussy
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
ok but mass shootings are becoming way too common. What's your solution?

That Nice attack happened almost 10 years ago. On the other hand, there's a new mass shooting every other day in America.
Define mass shooting so we can determine how common they really are and the solutions.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
The Vegas shooter would have had a lot more kills with a standard deer hunting rifle.
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This is a very important point,becausethe Vegas shooterdidn'tuse a standard deer hunting rifle. The fact he chose AR-15s for a reason. Psychologically, it makes the attackers feel they can kill more people, so they are more likely to carry out the attack.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
Define mass shooting so we can determine how common they really are and the solutions.
You can go to the mall in Canada or Australia and not have to worry about your 5 year old getting her head blown in.
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