I'm saying you need to treat people in a way to weather ups and downs instead of disregarding anyone not currently in contest shape because no one will get there without this

You're not far from the truth. But I think that the sloots have just changed extremely for the worse. Their expectations aren't based in reality. Hell, I'm a 6'1 tall 51 year old non obese with above average body for my age, workout 3-4 times a week, paid for house, paid for car, over a million net worth, laid back, and easy to get along with.

Plenty of matches on Bumble constantly. But out of every 20 matches I only get a couple messages. Then they just ghost out. Chit doesn't even make sense. On Bumble women have to send the first message. So why match if you're not going to send a message? And why message if you're not going to engage in a conversation? I think most sloots on these apps just get a kick out of jerking guy's chains for validation and their own entertainment. My estimate is 50% fake profiles, 45% psychologically damaged sloots, and maybe 5% decent chicks. The odds of finding a decent long term chick is like winning the powerball or something, especially as you get older. Thank god for the 35-45 year old single mothers barely scraping by. Even at 51, as long as you look halfway decent and have money, it's easy pickins LMFAO.....

It’s not just aggressiveness / strength

There are many traits that keep an animal alive. Intelligence. Camouflage. Resourcefulness Etc.

Superior genetics means much more than brute strength / ruthlessness

Facts from OP.

A lot of miscers apply boomer logic to modern dating like idiots.

'Jus bee khanfident ro'

yes, that worked when women had 3 guys to choose from and wanted to be married by her early 20s.

When a woman has 1000 options and doesnt care if she's single at 35, this stuff is irrelevant.

What's so bad about women having many options and not caring if she's single at 35? Why do women need to be dependent on men in order for men to feel adequate? Sounds like man-child behavior on behalf of the men who have an issue with it.

fair

Lots of circumstances are traps without good ways out regardless how talented you are

99% of women are dating in the community

The amount of women being flown out to party with billionaires is extremely small

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A lot of you guys are retarded. Women are no different than they've always been. They've always sought out taller, better looking provider/protectors to have offspring with. Guys just did what they could to fit that mold. "Average" guys tried to have something to offer. Guys don't do that anymore. They just get mad that women aren't into fat vaxed retail workers. They can't build anything. Can't fix anything. Can't produce anything. They're worthless. They're mad their mirror selfie in front of a dirty mirror isn't bringing in the gash. Buy a fukking tripod. Spend 10 minutes on youtube learning to pose. Take interesting selfies. Basic editing. Fukking put in some effort. Guys imagine online dating to be effortless. Vag is just going to fall on their nutter butters. You have to actually TRY.

incels have said this since early 2000s

this is true...75+ years ago men could find a woman by age 21 that was ready to settle down, have a family and be a homemaker. probably most of the men that were ancestors to incels were married at a young age and having kids. essentially ever man in my family born in the 20s and 30s had no problem...and they were just poor farmer types.

Answer is simple.

DO NOT MARRY A WESTERN WOMAN.

Go for Eastern European or Asian.

Western woman have had 2 generations of brain washing from schools, media, government and don't understand family values or their place in society.

Incel epidemic is brutal

and this is what it boils down to...family, traditional values and religion are just less valued now...thus women have no problem chasing Chads until their 40s.

Are you really comparing men 75 years ago to the man-children of today? lol

What about the women-children of today? think they deserve the men of 75 years ago?

I don't think that's the issue. I think these days it really comes down to unrealistic expectations on for the majority of women. Most of them won't looks match with someone on their level. Average women would rather share a Chad with several other women than have an average dude all to themselves. Until Chad pumps and dumps them, then they'll complain that they can't find any good men. Then they just rinse and repeat until they're just a lonely old hag. And that's cool, adults can live their lives the way they see fit.

However, two can play that game. Contrary to current feminist propaganda. When it comes down to it, women will always need men more than men need women.

For causal sex yes, but it’s always been this way. The amount of men that can regularly have casual sex from bars and tinder is small.

But for dating it’s not like that. Average men find average women to date all the time.

The men of my grandfather's generation would shyt a brick if they were thrown into today's dating world. The women would too if they knew what modern women have came to.

The reason it’s changed is because back then women couldn’t work so all a man needed was a paycheck and the woman would be hooked.

It’s not like that anymore. Men need more than a paycheck, they need to actually take care of their appearance and actually possess social and emotional intelligence. Most men don’t do these things

I'd imagine men 75 years ago wouldn't be clamoring for fatties and trannies like misc does. They have higher standards for themselves.

I don't know about the men of that generation you knew but mine were clean, honest, dressed neatly until death, mannerly, worked hard, instilled values in their children, most were church going (stuff instilled in them from their parents) and almost all them were involved in some war. They were just salt of the earth MEN. That can often be bottom of the barrel for many women now.

This is no different than the animal kingdom. Which we are a part of. Right? Male animals of all sorts and of all kinds have fought over animal females since the beginning of time.

I mean this is biology 101.

Just be a better looking and more alpha male and females will want to mate with you.

It is simple aesthetics.

agree with your other points

Women still like men who can be good fathers.

Some of the hyper beta stuff repulses them.

OP here’s the thing. Who gives a fk

I’m a single dad, been thru a divorce…. have slayed plenty of nice poon over the years (ex wife included, 8 yrs total)… I’m kinda to a point where I just don’t give much of a fk anymore

Chasing women is kinda beta/simp behavior if u rly think about it. Make the women flock to u instead by working on yourself to the point where they have no other choice BUT to notice u

Besides, most women these days ain’t worth it. Lots of hot ones, but a lot of them straight hoes my boi. IG thots, OF sloots…. I ain’t got time for that chit

The dudes that ain’t chasing after them are the ones that get noticed cuz guess what? If ur chasing them, ur doing what most everyone else is doing and u ain’t special or no different

Man, stack ur money…. Lift weights, stay healthy and jacked, build yourself up and have some damn respect for yourself…. Don’t be some loser ass simp…. maybe get urself a sports car too. Ride around and hear the roar of that v8…. that might help get some of y’all’s test levels up and remind u of what it feels like to be a man

I disagree, casual sex or short term FWB is easier for me to find in bars, restaurants, and other public places. Finding a QUALITY average to slightly above average woman to seriously date is not an easy task these days. And the online chit is ridiculous, mostly a waste of time. The problem is that for an average man online, there's always going to be someone she thinks is better pop up in her match queue, then she disappears like a fart in the wind. And while my looks is probably average, almost everything else is above average.

Back between 2007-2015 range, online dating was the great. It's just become too mainstream and the market got too saturated. Too many choices for females isn't a good thing. Hell 90% of them can't even decide what they want for dinner and then complain about it when you pick a place. Most of them are on the mentally retarded spectrum LMFAO

I kinda agree with this. You've got to be your own man and get unhooked from that Disney fantasy where a man needs a woman to feel complete. Most of the women out here ain't worth all this effort and chasing. They are often mentally ill and lost causes as products of modern culture.