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Thread: Marine vet going to Jail for holding crackhead in a chokehold

post 1682537863 05-11-2023, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
so the guy could have had 0 arrests for all the marine knew, and he murdered someone for yelling. struggling to see how that's a justifiable action.
Odds and probabilities. If you knew a deck of cards had 42 kings in it, would you demand justice if you were dealt a king?
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Odds and probabilities. If you knew a deck of cards had 42 kings in it, would you demand justice if you were dealt a king?
so you think it's ok to murder someone for yelling, because if they're yelling, they probably have a criminal record?
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post 1682538173 05-11-2023, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
so you think it's ok to murder someone for yelling, because if they're yelling, they probably have a criminal record?
Man I don't want to live in the city where the guy with 40+ arrests gets out of jail no problem, but i'd much rather live in that than this.
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post 1682538353 05-11-2023, 08:20 PM
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He dun goof’d. Always better to mind your own business especially in 2023
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
Man I don't want to live in the city where the guy with 40+ arrests gets out of jail no problem, but i'd much rather live in that than this.
So you'd rather ride the subway with the 42x offender than the marine?

No one can answer this honestly lmao.
post 1682538803 05-11-2023, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Not one person ITT would rather ride the subway with the crackhead than the marine.... Yet they all want the marine to rot in prison.

JFL.
That may be true but people also need to be held accountable for their actions. No doubt the marine made a mistake and is otherwise a good guy. But it was a big ****ing mistake, one that took a life.
post 1682538843 05-11-2023, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
so the guy could have had 0 arrests for all the marine knew, and he murdered someone for yelling. struggling to see how that's a justifiable action.
LMAO yeah just yelling, he was making threats was he not?

I love how you're such a pinhead loser you choose to intentionally misrepresent the situation to win an internet discussion. maaaaaaaaaaan you must be a cool guy.
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post 1682538903 05-11-2023, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
So you'd rather ride the subway with the 42x offender than the marine?

No one can answer this honestly lmao.
I never said that. Regardless of who I'd rather ride the subway with, it's not right to murder someone for yelling.
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post 1682538923 05-11-2023, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By TryingMen⏩
That may be true but people also need to be held accountable for their actions. No doubt the marine made a mistake and is otherwise a good guy. But it was a big ****ing mistake, one that took a life.
The marine only choked him out because he was clearly batchit insane, which a judge already knew 42 times before that day.
post 1682538973 05-11-2023, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Darkhare⏩
LMAO yeah just yelling, he was making threats was he not?

I love how you're such a pinhead loser you choose to intentionally misrepresent the situation to win an internet discussion. maaaaaaaaaaan you must be a cool guy.
Where did you read he was threatening people? All I see is yelling aggressively.

If he was threatening violence that does change things, but the OP and news articles mention nothing about that. Just yelling. In fact they specifically say he wasn't doing anything to anyone physically.
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post 1682538993 05-11-2023, 08:30 PM
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What about the other two people holding him down?
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Originally Posted By TryingMen⏩
That may be true but people also need to be held accountable for their actions. No doubt the marine made a mistake and is otherwise a good guy. But it was a big ****ing mistake, one that took a life.
Nah, he deserves a coupon to Arby's and a thank you from everyone in the city.
Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
Where did you read he was threatening people? All I see is yelling aggressively.

If he was threatening violence that does change things, but the OP and news articles mention nothing about that. Just yelling. In fact they specifically say he wasn't doing anything to anyone physically.
He said, and I quote, "I'm ready to die". And the rest as they say, is history.
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Originally Posted By Darkhare⏩
LMAO yeah just yelling, he was making threats was he not?

I love how you're such a pinhead loser you choose to intentionally misrepresent the situation to win an internet discussion. maaaaaaaaaaan you must be a cool guy.
nah brah he was just yelling!

He has no history of violence.
post 1682539143 05-11-2023, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By redmelly⏩
What about the other two people holding him down?
That'll be tomorrows protest LMAO
post 1682539263 05-11-2023, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Nah, he deserves a coupon to Arby's and a thank you from everyone in the city.



He said, and I quote, "I'm ready to die". And the rest as they say, is history.
what part of that is threatening other people? What are you guys seeing other than yelling? Someone says they're ready to die and now it's ok to murder them?
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post 1682539373 05-11-2023, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
The marine only choked him out because he was clearly batchit insane, which a judge already knew 42 times before that day.
If he choked him out properly he wouldn’t have a murder charge on him now would he?

Doesn’t matter he wasn’t trying to kill him. He’s not being charged with trying to kill him. What exactly don’t you understand about his mistake and the charges he faces because of it?

Plenty of others have gone to jail for unintentionally killing someone. What exactly are you suggesting, all of those should be allowed to slide? You have to set some kind of standard with the rule. If you want to wave this as just a mistake and it’s ok cause he’s a good guy you gotta start waving lots of other mistakes

So maybe you do want to ride the train with this one who made a mistake. Do you want to ride the train with the drunk husband who accidentally took it too far and beat his wife to death next? That dude also made a mistake that ended in a death. And if his wife never pressed charges to prior beatings, he also may have had a spotless record with no criminal activity.

So I’m genuinely curious, what are you advocating for here? Sh*tty deal this mistake costs him, but no offense you’re a total retard if you don’t think he should be held accountable to that mistake.
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I don't like the clown world we're evolving into at all, but i do not want to be in ya'lls world either. There's a middle ground where we don't let people with long criminal records roam the streets repeating the same crimes, but we also don't make it ok to kill people for stepping out of line a bit or having made past mistakes.
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post 1682539633 05-11-2023, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
what part of that is threatening other people? What are you guys seeing other than yelling? Someone says they're ready to die and now it's ok to murder them?
If someone walks up to me and screams that they don't care and they're ready to die, I am going to assume they are going to try to harm me.
Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
I don't like the clown world we're evolving into at all, but i do not want to be in ya'lls world either. There's a middle ground where we don't let people with long criminal records roam the streets repeating the same crimes, but we also don't murder people for stepping out of line a bit or having made past mistakes.
How many mistakes is too many? How many times do you have to push old women onto train tracks before it's best to put you down for society's benefit?
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post 1682539673 05-11-2023, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted By TryingMen⏩
So I’m genuinely curious, what are you advocating for here? Sh*tty deal this mistake costs him, but no offense you’re a total retard if you don’t think he should be held accountable to that mistake.
I'd argue that if you have 3 arrests on your record, and someone kills you on the train, maybe your killer gets a LOT of leniency on their charge... after 42 arrests, the choker really shouldn't be charged at all.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
If someone walks up to me and screams that they don't care and they're ready to die, I am going to assume they are going to try to harm me.



How many mistakes is too many? How many times do you have to push old women onto train tracks before it's best to put you down for society's benefit?
and so you'd kill someone for yelling at you? Despite them not threatening you? Just informing you that they're ready to die? How do you know he;s not about to jump off a building?

That's crazy talk man.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I'd argue that if you have 3 arrests on your record, and someone kills you on the train, maybe your killer gets a LOT of leniency on their charge... after 42 arrests, the choker really shouldn't be charged at all.
Agreed on some leniency on the marine is deserved here given the criminal history, i believe the courts typically do consider that stuff.
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
and so you'd kill someone for yelling at you? Despite them not threatening you? Just informing you that they're ready to die? How do you know he;s not about to jump off a building?

That's crazy talk man.
Because we're in tight quarters inside a subway. Are you mentally deficient?
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Because we're in tight quarters inside a subway. Are you mentally deficient?
and you'll be in the subway forever, right? And the only way to kill yourself is to jump off a building? Maybe he took some pills? Are you such a moron that you can't think of more than one possibility?

You can't kill someone for that. thank god people like you don't run the justice system. Criminals would roam the city murdering people and you just say "but he said he was ready to die! clearly i was within my rights to kill the man!"
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alright, i've committed all the time i'm willing to commit to this.

think it through, this is obviously a wrong action.

see yall at the next controversy.
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
and you'll be in the subway forever, right? And the only way to kill yourself is to jump off a building? Maybe he took some pills? Are you such a moron that you can't think of more than one possibility?

You can't kill someone for that. thank god people like you don't run the justice system. Criminals would roam the city murdering people and you just say "but he said he was ready to die! clearly i was within my rights to kill the man!"
I hope one of your family members isn't victimized and you have to learn the hard way. Maybe, had he never been choked out, the next person he pushed onto an oncoming train may have been one of your two fathers.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I hope one of your family members isn't victimized and you have to learn the hard way. Maybe, had he never been choked out, the next person he pushed onto an oncoming train may have been one of your two fathers.
no man! this is MURICA! We love having violent chit heads living among us.
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
i was not there, but that's how the report reads. if you've got something else to go on post it.
The report doesn't say much of anything. And if that's all you're going on it's silly to claim he was murdered for yelling.

Possibly he was murdered. Equally as possible it was legitimate self defense.
A young bull and an old bull were standing atop a hill looking at a bunch of heifers in a field below.

The young bull says "Let's run down this hill and fuk one of those heifers."

The old bull replies "No. Let's walk down there, and fuk them all."
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Originally Posted By Achilles87⏩
The report doesn't say much of anything. And if that's all you're going on it's silly to claim he was murdered for yelling.

Possibly he was murdered. Equally as possible it was legitimate self defense.
And given his criminal history, I think an assumption is in order here.
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What about the black guy restraining the guys arm while the marine was choking the dude out.

What's he gonna get changed with?
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