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Details emerge from the Battle of Conoco oil field in Syria ( Wagner vs US spec ops)

I’ll post a quick excerpt since the article is super long.
Things were looking up when a battle captain in the command center radioed Andrew.

“Hey, just be advised, incoming bomber,” the battle captain said.

“Roger,” Andrew said, happy to have more air cover.

“No, dude,” the battle captain said. “Russian bomber inbound.”

American aircraft had superiority over Syria, but if the Russians were sending a bomber—that changed the battlefield calculus. Andrew got on the team net and warned them about the incoming bomber.

“Do what you want with it, but there’s nothing you can do,” Andrew said. “Just tighten your helmet and lock the doors.”

For the next several minutes, Andrew waited for the bomber. Would it drop or just buzz them? He’d survived a tank battle already, but this was worse. A 500-pound bomb would kill his whole team. Just before the bomber was supposed to arrive, the battle captain called back.

No bomber.

The Russians turned back.

An hour later, the Russian fighters started to retreat. Russian and American officials declared a cease-fire, and the Special Forces watched as the mercenaries and Syrian fighters returned to collect their dead. Bodies and burnt vehicles were laid out in front of them.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...n-mercenaries/

Highly recommend reading the full thing because it’s super interesting.


Any theories on why the Russians would:
1. Agree to the US request for them to turn off their anti-air systems? How is this not a betrayal of their forces on the ground?

2. Why would they call off the Russian bomber?

It seems as if the Russians would have allowed their mercenaries to keep their anti air capabilities intact then today the area east of the Euphraties would belong to the Syrian government.
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
2. Why would they call off the Russian bomber?
because it would have started ww3

In that battle Washington called the kremlin and asked about russian troops operating in the AO to prevent an international incident, since wagner is not government official troops, they denied and the rapists got their **** pushed in hard

If russia sent a bomber to kill US spec ops in syria, the world would be very different today
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post 1682635443 05-13-2023, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
because it would have started ww3

In that battle Washington called the kremlin and asked about russian troops operating in the AO to prevent an international incident, since wagner is not government official troops, they denied and the rapists got their **** pushed in hard

If russia sent a bomber to kill US spec ops in syria, the world would be very different today
While Wagner might not be official Russian troops. I find it hard to believe that they are operating without the Russian government knowing their movements and actions. Especially when those Wagner mercs are attacking US forces in Syria.

Don’t know all the specifics between wagner and the russian government but it seems to have been a disconnect somewhere in this situation. Did Wagner and their Syrian allies attack with the thought that they would have Russian air support and then the air support never arrived?
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
While Wagner might not be official Russian troops. I find it hard to believe that they are operating without the Russian government knowing their movements and actions. Especially when those Wagner mercs are attacking US forces in Syria.

Don’t know all the specifics between wagner and the russian government but it seems to have been a disconnect somewhere in this situation. Did Wagner and their Syrian allies attack with the thought that they would have Russian air support and then the air support never arrived?
im not arguing that

wagner is directed by the kremlin, its just they have deniability because its a "private firm"

Undeniably Wagner was given the go ahead by russia to attack and lol did those *******s get their **** pushed in

Dont tell memecope that, wagner are tier 1 pipe hitters
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
While Wagner might not be official Russian troops. I find it hard to believe that they are operating without the Russian government knowing their movements and actions. Especially when those Wagner mercs are attacking US forces in Syria.

Don’t know all the specifics between wagner and the russian government but it seems to have been a disconnect somewhere in this situation. Did Wagner and their Syrian allies attack with the thought that they would have Russian air support and then the air support never arrived?
Russian government uses Wagner because they can claim plausible deniability. But they aren't willing to risk open war with the US. Russians consider their own military men to be expendable resources. You have to realize they have 0 consideration for what happens to Wagner fighters. Even when those guys are fighting for Russian interests.

The 'CEO' of Wagner is always on the news complaining about how they are treated/equipped by the Russian government.


They were most likely told they'd have air support/lied too. And when it came down to it the Russians were willing to let all of their people/allies die to avoid a real war with the US.
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Why do believe anything coming from American propaganda sources? I would not put too much stock in it as the propaganda machine lies about so many things for so many decades, especially when it comes to the middle east.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
Russian government uses Wagner because they can claim plausible deniability. But they aren't willing to risk open war with the US. Russians consider their own military men to be expendable resources. You have to realize they have 0 consideration for what happens to Wagner fighters. Even when those guys are fighting for Russian interests.

The 'CEO' of Wagner is always on the news complaining about how they are treated/equipped by the Russian government.


They were most likely told they'd have air support/lied too. And when it came down to it the Russians were willing to let all of their people/allies die to avoid a real war with the US.
your just pulling stuff out of thin air, you act as though wagner group is just some retard subhuman slave force that does what its told for nothing, equipped with rocks and sticks

this is not the case at all, this is why ukrane is getting rekt hard by the wagner group
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Originally Posted By MasterMorality⏩
Why do believe anything coming from American propaganda sources? I would not put too much stock in it as the propaganda machine lies about so many things for so many decades, especially when it comes to the middle east.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/...ntified-a60487




https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...rikes-in-syria
A Syrian military officer says about 100 Syrian soldiers were killed on Feb. 7 and 8. Russian media has cited unconfirmed claims that the number of dead is as high as 200 and that many of them could be Russian nationals.

Reuters on Monday reported that two Russian fighters, Vladimir Loginov and Kirill Ananyev, had been identified as killed in the fighting, along with "dozens" of other Russians last We
literal obituaries




lol

muh western propaganda
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Originally Posted By Smithers115⏩
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/...ntified-a60487




https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...rikes-in-syria


literal obituaries




lol

muh western propaganda
Ok, so you posted some more links, including NPR, how does that change what I said? How does that counter it? Did you understand what I wrote? I am asking you in all seriousness. Does the Army times, moscowtimes, or NPR give the full details ? The whole story? Think before you post, friend.
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