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post 1682868573 05-17-2023, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
The fact that both the vaccinated group and the control group had a similar number of deaths from causes other than COVID-19 is to be expected, Cennimo said.

“To exaggerate the example for learning, the Pfizer vaccine doesn’t protect you from lightning strikes so equal numbers of people in the vaccine and the placebo control group should get hit by lightning,” Cennimo said.
The trial was performed during the peak activity of the deadly disease it was created for.

So yes, I'd hope to see less death in the vaccine group than the placebo.... But there was more. Cardiac arrest deaths specifically.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
He doesn't answer questions. He's a troll. He has revealed he is Russian though, and has a specific agenda related to this. I'd be careful engaging with him. It's mind blowing the FSB would bother with this idiotic board, but it is a nazi board and may serve as a place to radicalize young men against America so it doesn't really surprise me. He also likely bribes moderators or the site admin.
I have Russian and Ukrainian friends and they are smart enough to know how to answer simple questions, let's not belittle his intelligence, lool.

How much Sputnik is in you ?
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I thought the pinnacle was when they openly admitted if you are vaccinated & boosted. You still need to wear a mask. You can still catch covid. You can still spread covid. Its supposed to be more minor. However you can still die from covid.


Basically they told people if you take this experimental jab(s). Nothing changes. But if you catch covid the symptoms might be more mild. Or not. Because you can still die from it.


Now factor in a large portion of people still refuse to believe/admit this (despite what the government admits/what we've seen). And are STILL getting boosters.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Thanks for answering 1,2,3, or 6 shots?
I took zero because of the RCT data.

Did you read the RCT data?
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
The trial was performed during the peak activity of the deadly disease it was created for.

So yes, I'd hope to see less death in the vaccine group than the placebo.... But there was more. Cardiac arrest deaths specifically.
But cardiac arrest is the #1 source of death in general on this planet. Having a difference of 1 death also isn't statistically significant in that population. Also, vaccine induced myocarditis is clinically detectable. It presents differently from other types of heart failure. That's what the doctor from Rutgers was saying. I can't tell if you're being honest and just don't understand this or if you're deliberately misrepresenting the data to support your preconception.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
How many times did you donate blood in 2022?
if you answer i will, this questioning is one sided and quite скучный
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
I have Russian and Ukrainian friends and they are smart enough to know how to answer simple questions, let's not belittle his intelligence, lool.

How much Sputnik is in you ?
Yeah he's kind of a disgrace to Russia tbh.

I'm not Russian bro. I got the Pfizer shot.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
But cardiac arrest is the #1 source of death in general on this planet. Having a difference of 1 death also isn't statistically significant in that population. Also, vaccine induced myocarditis is clinically detectable. It presents differently from other types of heart failure. That's what the doctor from Rutgers was saying.
Based on your interpretation of the trial, my takeaway should be that covid is such a mild disease that the MRNA shot isn't necessary?
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
I took zero because of the RCT data.

Did you read the RCT data?
No but if you link to it here, i will read it now to understand more about your decision making process.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
Yeah he's kind of a disgrace to Russia tbh.

I'm not Russian bro. I got the Pfizer shot.
As did I and no covid.....
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Interesting.

And i know that you are more than wiling to give up personal information, answer the question, contribute, and not just ask Covid questions of others.

How many times did you donate blood in 2022?
After
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Based on your interpretation of the trial, my takeaway should be that covid is such a mild disease that the MRNA shot isn't necessary?
If you consider over 1 million dead Americans a mild result, IDK what to tell you. I'm sure I could dig up posts of you screeching about 9/11 though. The trial only looked for short term deaths to rule out severe adverse events from the vaccines. It wasn't a study on covid deaths. You can look at the data to see covid killed a lot of people. Now you're pivoting to disputing the burden of the virus when excess death data shows the effect clearly.

Frankly, I don't think you're discussing this in good faith and genuinely are misinformed. I think it's more nefarious than that. I think the value of eroding public trust in evidence based medicine exceeds the cost to you because you're a fascist who wants to destroy all institutions in an effort to bring about your political goals. And perhaps the dead people are acceptable for you. Either way, I find you disgusting and hope you're killed as soon as possible.

It doesn't bother me that you didn't take a vaccine. What bothers me is that you spread lies and bullchit and may influence others not to take it.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Thanks for confirming that you are a hypocrite.

And i know that you are more than wiling to give up personal information, answer the question, contribute, and not just ask Covid questions of others.

How many times did you donate blood in 2022?
You reply like a machine and not a human being with independent thoughts, weird!
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
He doesn't answer questions. He's a troll. He has revealed he is Russian though, and has a specific agenda related to this. I'd be careful engaging with him. It's mind blowing the FSB would bother with this idiotic board, but it is a nazi board and may serve as a place to radicalize young men against America so it doesn't really surprise me. He also likely bribes moderators or the site admin.
You must be new here. Anachron never answers anything, he just keeps asking questions over and over again. Oh, and personal insults.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
You reply like a machine and not a human being with independent thoughts, weird!
It honestly seems that way sometimes.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
Now you're pivoting to disputing the burden of the virus when excess death data shows the effect clearly.
but it didn't show it in the RCT.
Frankly, I don't think you're discussing this in good faith and genuinely are misinformed. I think the value of eroding public trust in evidence based medicine exceeds the cost to you because you're a fascist who wants to destroy all institutions in an effort to bring about your political goals. And perhaps the dead people are acceptable for you. Either way, I find you disgusting and hope you're killed as soon as possible.
Asking for an RCT that shows less death than the placebo makes me a fascist with political goals?

strong EVERYTHING lmao
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Don't you have some bouncy castles to go "reeeeee" at?
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
but it didn't show it in the RCT.



Asking for an RCT that shows less death than the placebo makes me a fascist with political goals?

strong EVERYTHING lmao
I already explained to you why what you're asking is fuking stupid. There are other far more common causes of death in the short term over those 6 months. If you look specifically at covid related deaths, the vaccine group had less death than the control, obviously, but this difference isn't statistically significant either. But this is also shown in the actual death data collected over the course of the pandemic.

Yeah. Otherwise why would you not get this after I linked you a clear explanation? And why would you keep ignoring statistics and act like that difference is statistically significant?

Why would you expect it in the RCT? Actually read what I fuking linked. Otherwise, like I said, it's not worth engaging with you because you aren't bothering to learn in good faith at all.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
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Looks about right.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
And the beavercel vaxcuck resorts to projecting.

Sorry about your position in life, chitstain.
Wow, three childish insults in one post. That's a record even for you.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
You must be new here. Anachron never answers anything, he just keeps asking questions over and over again. Oh, and personal insults.
Usually people on the attack reveal nothing, it protects their fragile ego and low self esteem.
Normal people share life stories and events here.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
I already explained to you why what you're asking is fuking stupid. There are other far more common causes of death in the short term over those 6 months. If you look specifically at covid related deaths, the vaccine group had less death than the control, obviously,but this difference isn't statistically significant either. But this is also shown in the actual death data collected over the course of the pandemic.
So then why the FUK would you take it?

You are literally creating arguments against yourself.

cohort data =/= RCT, so whatever "data" was collected over the course of the pandemic holds almost zero significance compared to RCT.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Usually people on the attack reveal nothing, it protects their fragile ego and low self esteem.
Normal people share life stories and events here.
Both he and Dave22reborn never share any opinions. They only attack others. They never propose anything or talk about themselves. That's how you know they are probably agents, bots, or something else. Even CondorChang, Dogkrack, and Leonydus are batchit insane nazis, but they at least share their views and open themselves to discussion (though Chang is so mentally ill there is little to be gained in arguing with him).
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
Both he and Dave22reborn never share any opinions. They only attack others. They never propose anything or talk about themselves. That's how you know they are probably agents, bots, or something else. Even CondorChang, Dogkrack, and Leonydus are batchit insane nazis, but they at least share their views and open themselves to discussion (though Chang is so mentally ill there is little to be gained in arguing with him).
I think he's just someone who has nothing better to do. Probably an IT person who sits in front of a computer all day and entertains himself by trolling. It's a waste of time to go back and forth.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
I think he's just someone who has nothing better to do. Probably an IT person who sits in front of a computer all day and entertains himself by trolling. It's a waste of time to go back and forth.
Yep. I show his posts once in a while for amusement, but it takes about 30 s to remind me why I had him on ignore. I've tried being nice and extending an olive branch, but he's probably a sociopath. No point.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
And as for being more educated?
I didn't even see that remark because I blocked his ass after he started with the direct insults and retarded nonsense.

"More educated"

I'd like to know how. Dude lives in a universe where it is inconceivable that someone might know more than him about anything. Everything he has posted has no grounding in ****ing reality whatsoever. Fact: I have more formalized education than this clown. Does this make me "more educated"? That's debatable; let's just put that off to the side for now as I certainly won't be the sort of person to claim a college degree makes you educated as I am intimately aware of the types of morons who somehow graduate. Using the classical idea of education, then I am infinitely more educated simply because I follow the Socratic premise that knowing you are incapable of knowing gives you wisdom. I would never claim to actually "know" anything in the Descartian meaning about the physical universe; like anyone else I can only engage in observation and induction. Retardboy here, however, just assumes whatever he thinks is right, and thus is dumb as **** because of it. He regurgitates stupidity simply because of who spouted it. Classic case of Marxist programming. "A man's gotta know his limitations." I know mine, Retardboy thinks he has none, which means he is functionally useless to society and a waste of space.
Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz
I didn't even see that remark because I blocked his ass after he started with the direct insults and retarded nonsense.

"More educated"

I'd like to know how. Dude lives in a universe where it is inconceivable that someone might know more than him about anything. Everything he has posted has no grounding in ****ing reality whatsoever. Fact: I have more formalized education than this clown. Does this make me "more educated"? That's debatable; let's just put that off to the side for now as I certainly won't be the sort of person to claim a college degree makes you educated as I am intimately aware of the types of morons who somehow graduate. Using the classical idea of education, then I am infinitely more educated simply because I follow the Socratic premise that knowing you are incapable of knowing gives you wisdom. I would never claim to actually "know" anything in the Descartian meaning beyond about the physical universe; like anyone else I can only engage in observation and induction. Retardboy here, however, just assumes whatever he thinks is right, and thus is dumb as **** because of it. He regurgitates stupidity simply because of who spouted it. Classic case of Marxist programming. "A man's gotta know his limitations." I know mine, Retardboy thinks he has none, which means he is functionally useless to society and a waste of space.
Would you be willing to take a simple mathematics or physics exam? I'll quiz you at your level. I'll ask you questions appropriate to your level of education.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
Would you be willing to take a simple mathematics or physics exam? I'll quiz you at your level. I'll ask you questions appropriate to your level of education.
You have proven you understand math; you agreed that the covid jab RCT isn't statistically significant evidence that it actually does anything... The next step is to figure out why you took it anyway.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
You have proven you understand math; you agreed that the covid jab RCT isn't statistically significant evidence that it actually does anything... The next step is to figure out why you took it anyway.
The RCT was statistically significant on disease, which is the entire point. Did you read the trial?
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
The RCT was statistically significant on disease, which is the entire point. Did you read the trial?
But you just said it wasn't. Go read your own post^^^
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