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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Yes, the part about "complications beyond the acute phase" part is especially true of infection of the ghost Covid. That strain is especially dangerous...

I mean, there is literally no point in having this discussion if you think every literature that describes post-covid complications is fake news. It leaves me with no path forward whilst placing the burden of proof unfairly on me, lol.

I can easily say the vaccine side effect is grifter propaganda and that is it. But I can at least point towards provable misinterpretations of data of certain public "excess deaths everywhere after vaccine, click me click me click me". I can also point to 100 years of post-viral complication literature prior to Covid. Including SARS and MERS who had cases of massive complications but since they didn't develop to full-blown pandemics there was no vaccine for them.


I am not trying to say that all vaccine side effects can be explained as Covid infection long-term complications. Not even close.

But I really do not understand how someone like you of all people can make the offhand conclusion that there is no way that a direct delivery of a much larger viral payload of the same pathogen the vaccine mRNA codes for, via an infection, can cause problems.

Many researches tried to separate these things - via assuming that Anti-S ABs are vaccine related but Anti-N ABs are infection but that turned out to be false because an infection can result in spike protein everywhere as much as a vaccine.


While the spectrum analogy I was trying to make is that I would have expected someone more interesting to debate with to understand these things compared to plain silly soccer moms like katya, who live on social security and a newly developed health condition wouldn't make much a difference as they have no high performance job to lose.

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

You're making a lot of assumptions as to what I claim...

But keep on trolling brah.

I can make certain deduction from terms like ghost covid.

It sounds like me saying that everyone who thinks he had side from vaccine has ghost vaccine syndrome.

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It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.

Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

As I said, keep trolling brah, best stealth troll of 2023 for sure.

Trolling how?

Do you think Covid can't cause long term complications?

How would you go about ensuring that a certain complication is covid or vaccine induced?

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Dude, I wasn't born yesterday and I am not wincel. You'll have to wake up a lot earlier to troll me.

Really wished I could have had a proper conversation rather than this.

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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩

I mean, there is literally no point in having this discussionif you think every literature that describes post-covid complications is fake news. It leaves me with no path forward whilst placing the burden of proof unfairly on me, lol.

I can easily say the vaccine side effect is grifter propaganda and that is it. But I can at least point towards provable misinterpretations of data of certain public "excess deaths everywhere after vaccine, click me click me click me".I can also point to 100 years of post-viral complication literature prior to Covid.Including SARS and MERS who had cases of massive complications but since they didn't develop to full-blown pandemics there was no vaccine for them.


I am not trying to say that all vaccine side effects can be explained as Covid infection long-term complications. Not even close.

I don't believe that I've personally stated that the virus is zero risk or that it has no lasting effects.

On you second point- yes, other viruses have lead to ongoing reduced health in some of the infected. I believe I did an entire post pointing that out. Post-viral complications are not new, nor unique to covid.

However that still takes us down the inevitable and unavoidable chain of logic - if getting the shot doesn't prevent infection or transmission then what was accomplished if anything? I already posted upthread that just by how they timed their measurement of effectiveness "efficacy" was baked in and would have been the result even if they injected people with pineapple juice.

Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩

But I really do not understand how someone like you of all people can make the offhand conclusion that there is no way that a direct delivery of a much larger viral payload of the same pathogen the vaccine mRNA codes for, via an infection, can cause problems.

Many researches tried to separate these things - via assuming that Anti-S ABs are vaccine related but Anti-N ABs are infection but that turned out to be false because an infection can result in spike protein everywhere as much as a vaccine.


While the spectrum analogy I was trying to make is that I would have expected someone more interesting to debate with to understand these things compared to plain silly soccer moms like katya, who live on social security and a newly developed health condition wouldn't make much a difference as they have no high performance job to lose.

Unaware of conclusive evidence anywhere showing that getting the vaccine reduced your overall exposure to the spike protein. Because, again, if you get the vax + the virus vs. just the virus I can't see how 2 [or 3 or 4 or 5] exposures can possibly equate to lower spike levels vs. one exposure.

Do try and explain to this silly soccer mom how a higher number of spike exposureswhich shows no sign of increasing immunityis better than just getting the virus.

For you...scary study re:spike which looks at both vaxxed and unvaxxed.

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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩

damn, some scary sh*t of official videos sprouting up on tiktok about sars covid and pfizer

supposedly they discovered the mrna spike protein in the 60s officially. and made it a pathogen (bio weapon) not long after.and in the 1990s pzifer was already involved in creating a "vax" for it or some BS.

they knew in the 60s that it mutates and a traditional jab didn't kill the virus. official videos and studies are being shared now, why isn't it all over the news as the headline?

so much for they didn't know anything about it and it's origins. let alone operating warp speed and getting some BS injection out ASAP to help people. for 30 years pzifer was involved

they have been working on this area for decades and lying about it. how they didnt know anything about it, they knew the jabs would not work.

explains also how they managed to somehow get 6 billion vials out there to inject people with. they have been making this sh*t for years and stockpiling it. no chance they could manufacture it fast enough to get it around worldwide in such a vast quantity

everyone involved deserves to get executed

Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩

There are plenty of effective vaccines that prevent infection and transmission of diseases and have basically eradicated illnesses such as measles, polio and tb

There is no such thing as a vaccine against the coronavirus family of diseases including the flu or COVID-19

Yes.

Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩

There are plenty of reputable people who have pointed out concerns regarding the injections, and plenty of reputable people who have said it’s certainly reasonable to say they may be playing a role in the excess deaths we continue to see now. It’s just that they’re called crazy science-denying anti-vaxxers.Just like we were when we said the injection wouldn’t prevent infection, wouldn’t stop transmission, remains in the body much longer than drug companies and others were claiming, that the injection doesn’t stay local to the injection site and will actually affect various parts of the body, and on and on to all all the other things that ended up being 100% true yet these brilliant doctors you talk about not only couldn’t seem to figure it out, but openly criticized anyone who made those claims. The same doctors who say all pregnant women should get the injection. The same doctors who were perfectly fine with telling parents to give their healthy children the injections.Surely it has nothing to do with moneyand comes down to their incredible understanding that we could never even hope to get close to.

It has absolutely everything to do with the money.

I've read that the initial plan was for a 10 shot series. An attempt to create a subscription system...gotta get your new updated mrna vax people or you're gonna die!

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Don't feed the troll, regardless of how elaborate it is.

I keep hoping that wincel will wise up.

Not to "win", just so that he adopts a healthy skepticism which could prolong his life. I'm sure it is difficult as who wants to believe our systems are so deeply corrupt?

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