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post 1683766083 05-31-2023, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted By bicmane102⏩
imagine thinking our elections are not fixed.

just lol
I never said they weren't.

Do you plan on voting in 2024? If yes why would you vote in a fixed election?
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
If they win, it's legit. If they lose, it's obvious fraud and cheating. Seems logical.
Well of course it's logical Phil. Why would anyone in their right mind vote for more destruction of their country...
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
I never said they weren't.

Do you plan on voting in 2024? If yes why would you vote in a fixed election?
no, waste of time.

all the candidates are fake and put there on purpose to appear like we have a choice.
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Jokes on you, he is a complete retard.
Phil is on fire today. Stay out of his way.
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Originally Posted By MarioMiami305⏩
there was no fraud. they just had mail in ballot voting.

democrats and blacks and minorites need everything handed to them. they have numbers. when you get stuff mailed to you already filled out,. and they have ballot bins right outside your section 8 housing.....it's impossible to beat democrats.
And you have proof, of course, that spooks and ***** were sent ballots already filled in for them? Could you share this proof, tranny?
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Originally Posted By bicmane102⏩
no, waste of time.

all the candidates are fake and put there on purpose to appear like we have a choice.
Lol dude, what ever was the point of voting? Do you think your one vote is going to change the outcome? Even in razor thin elections like we've had recently your one vote would change nothing even if everything was legit. That is why they feel welcome to just go ahead and dump ballots at 2 am to change the outcome, you never had any control in the first place. It's just a circus act for retards that would rather tell themselves a fantasy about muh government of by and for the people than accept the reality that they are nothing more than cattle for the evil paedos ruling us.

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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Democrats in Congress have contested the results of every Republican who won the POTUS election since after Reagan's reelection where he won 49 states and there was no contesting that landslide. Po-tay-to, Po-tah-to. There was no to far less social media for people to screech about. Did Hillary ever concede? She ran with "Russia gave Trump the election" just like MSNPC and other Dem media tried to for years. In 2016 Trump was winning states early and it could be called on election night. In 2020 Trump was winning battleground states and then overnight it all suddenly reversed, taking days to confirm. It definitely was fishy so I can't even blame Republicans for thinking it was. But for fuk's sake after it's called they needed to get over it. Even if there was slick trickery going on there was no way it was going to be overturned. There's no way the powers that be would let the final results be reversed, which is next to impossible to prove anyway.

I say forever that mail-in ballots should be limited to Americans overseas and elderly/disabled people who request them. Sending them unrequested is shady, whether Dems or GOP do it. You're 25 and able bodied? Get your ass to the voting station. They're open for a couple of weeks anyway. I showed up in the middle of the week before election day, told them my name and was out of there in 15 minutes.
So much misinformation and ignorance in a single post.

1. Yes, Hillary conceded.
2. Not every GOP victory was contested:

1988: Bush Sr. won, not contested
2000: Election contested in FL, legally under FL law due to margin. Gore conceded after SCOTUS decision
2004: Bush Jr. won, not contested
2016: Hillary conceded before recounts ordered by Green Party were even conducted, so sort of contested, but not really, amid allegations that Russia ran a sophisticated social media propaganda campaign to sway people to Trump, which is actually true.

2020: Trump has a complete triggered meltdown about fraud, files dozens of frivolous lawsuits, all of which failed, and hired some of the most retarded CT morons in the world to make allegations about secret servers in Germany and Venezuela and a CIA coverup. Still hasn't conceded 3 years later even though he obviously lost.

There is a world of difference between what any other losing candidate in US history from any party did to "contest" the election and Trump's triggered hissy fit.

3. Neither the Dems nor the GOP mail ballots unrequested to voters.Statesdo (in a handful of states). The state government controls the elections in every state, not political parties. Parties mailedabsentee request formsin some states to the registered voters in the parties, but those are not ballots, they are request forms to get an absentee ballot. Those individuals still have to fill out the request themselves, get the ballot, and fill it out and return it.

4. States barring pre-counting of absentee ballots so that they are the last ballots counted is not fraud. Literally everyone saidbeforethe election that in those states, the GOP will lead early and the lead will disappear over the course of days as the absentee ballots, which increased like ten fold in 2020 due to the pandemic, took a lot longer to be counted. Everyone knew it would happen like that and which states it would happen in, and then when it happen, it was suddenly the triggered Orange Menace and his cult of CT lunatics screeching fraud.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
So much misinformation and ignorance in a single post.

1. Yes, Hillary conceded.
2. Not every GOP victory was contested:

1988: Bush Sr. won, not contested
2000: Election contested in FL, legally under FL law due to margin. Gore conceded after SCOTUS decision
2004: Bush Jr. won, not contested
2016: Hillary conceded before recounts ordered by Green Party were even conducted, so sort of contested, but not really, amid allegations that Russia ran a sophisticated social media propaganda campaign to sway people to Trump, which is actually true.

2020: Trump has a complete triggered meltdown about fraud, files dozens of frivolous lawsuits, all of which failed, and hired some of the most retarded CT morons in the world to make allegations about secret servers in Germany and Venezuela and a CIA coverup. Still hasn't conceded 3 years later even though he obviously lost.

There is a world of difference between what any other losing candidate in US history from any party did to "contest" the election and Trump's triggered hissy fit.

3. Neither the Dems nor the GOP mail ballots unrequested to voters.Statesdo (in a handful of states). The state government controls the elections in every state, not political parties. Parties mailedabsentee request formsin some states to the registered voters in the parties, but those are not ballots, they are request forms to get an absentee ballot. Those individuals still have to fill out the request themselves, get the ballot, and fill it out and return it.

4. States barring pre-counting of absentee ballots so that they are the last ballots counted is not fraud. Literally everyone saidbeforethe election that in those states, the GOP will lead early and the lead will disappear over the course of days as the absentee ballots, which increased like ten fold in 2020 due to the pandemic, took a lot longer to be counted. Everyone knew it would happen like that and which states it would happen in, and then when it happen, it was suddenly the triggered Orange Menace and his cult of CT lunatics screeching fraud.
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More gay novels being posted arguing if there was fraud or not. This thread is based on the assumption there was cheating and if so why would you vote again as a Trumper
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
So much misinformation and ignorance in a single post.

1. Yes, Hillary conceded.
2. Not every GOP victory was contested:

1988: Bush Sr. won, not contested
2000: Election contested in FL, legally under FL law due to margin. Gore conceded after SCOTUS decision
2004: Bush Jr. won, not contested
2016: Hillary conceded before recounts ordered by Green Party were even conducted, so sort of contested, but not really, amid allegations that Russia ran a sophisticated social media propaganda campaign to sway people to Trump, which is actually true.

2020: Trump has a complete triggered meltdown about fraud, files dozens of frivolous lawsuits, all of which failed, and hired some of the most retarded CT morons in the world to make allegations about secret servers in Germany and Venezuela and a CIA coverup. Still hasn't conceded 3 years later even though he obviously lost.

There is a world of difference between what any other losing candidate in US history from any party did to "contest" the election and Trump's triggered hissy fit.

3. Neither the Dems nor the GOP mail ballots unrequested to voters.Statesdo (in a handful of states). The state government controls the elections in every state, not political parties. Parties mailedabsentee request formsin some states to the registered voters in the parties, but those are not ballots, they are request forms to get an absentee ballot. Those individuals still have to fill out the request themselves, get the ballot, and fill it out and return it.

4. States barring pre-counting of absentee ballots so that they are the last ballots counted is not fraud. Literally everyone saidbeforethe election that in those states, the GOP will lead early and the lead will disappear over the course of days as the absentee ballots, which increased like ten fold in 2020 due to the pandemic, took a lot longer to be counted. Everyone knew it would happen like that and which states it would happen in, and then when it happen, it was suddenly the triggered Orange Menace and his cult of CT lunatics screeching fraud.
May I ask you one question? You clearly took your time and created this well-thought out message. It is also 100% accurate. My question is, why? Why waste your time being a compassionate man and showing respect to wild animals who are less sophisticated than the black people they continually mock?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Whatever you say, Jizzel.
post 1683788743 06-01-2023, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted By whogotmuhbeers⏩
I don’t understand this either? I knew once Pennsylvania passed all the “mail in ballots” laws right before the election that he already lost..

He should’ve made it a priority. He’ll most likely get cheated again by day 3 of “counting” but iam gonna vote for him anyways.
He only won Pennsylvania in 2016 because of high third party voting.

Trump got 48.2% of the vote in Pennsylvania in 2016; in 2020 he got 48.7% of the vote.

So I don't get why Trumpers blame mail-in ballots. He performed as well in 2020 as he did in 2016, but this time didn't have Gary Johnson to bail him out.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Aren't they just going to cheat again in 2024? Whats going to be different? Why would any Trumpers bother wasting their time voting in an election that's rigged against him lol
100% they are , doesn’t matter who the rep candidate it


Voting will be stopped
Deficit will be determined
And mail in ballots will cover the difference
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
100% they are , doesn’t matter who the rep candidate it


Voting will be stopped
Deficit will be determined
And mail in ballots will cover the difference
Trump performed just as well in 2020 as he did in 2016:

State - 2016 / 2020

National - 46.2% / 46.8%

Arizona - 48.1% / 48.9%
Florida - 48.6% / 51.1%
Georgia - 50.3% / 49.3%
Michigan - 47.3% / 47.8%
Minnesota - 44.9% / 45.3%
Nevada - 45.5% / 47.7%
New Hampshire - 46.5% / 45.4%
North Carolina - 49.8% / 49.9%
Pennsylvania - 48.2% / 48.7%
Texas - 52.1% / 52.0%
Wisconsin 46.5% / 48.8%

How do you explain that?
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Trump performed just as well in 2020 as he did in 2016:

State - 2016 / 2020

National - 46.2% / 46.8%

Arizona - 48.1% / 48.9%
Florida - 48.6% / 51.1%
Georgia - 50.3% / 49.3%
Michigan - 47.3% / 47.8%
Minnesota - 44.9% / 45.3%
Nevada - 45.5% / 47.7%
New Hampshire - 46.5% / 45.4%
North Carolina - 49.8% / 49.9%
Pennsylvania - 48.2% / 48.7%
Texas - 52.1% / 52.0%
Wisconsin 46.5% / 48.8%

How do you explain that?
easy, millions upon millions of mail in votes for Biden, brought in the middle of the night after the state stopped counting votes
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Trump performed just as well in 2020 as he did in 2016:

State - 2016 / 2020

National - 46.2% / 46.8%

Arizona - 48.1% / 48.9%
Florida - 48.6% / 51.1%
Georgia - 50.3% / 49.3%
Michigan - 47.3% / 47.8%
Minnesota - 44.9% / 45.3%
Nevada - 45.5% / 47.7%
New Hampshire - 46.5% / 45.4%
North Carolina - 49.8% / 49.9%
Pennsylvania - 48.2% / 48.7%
Texas - 52.1% / 52.0%
Wisconsin 46.5% / 48.8%

How do you explain that?
In b4 no real response.
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
easy, millions upon millions of mail in votes for Biden, brought in the middle of the night after the state stopped counting votes
How are mail-in ballots the problem when in 2016 he won with those numbers?

Are you telling me Trump should've won Michigan with 47.7% of the vote or won Pennsylvania with 48.8% of the vote?
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
How are mail-in ballots the problem when in 2016 he won with those numbers?

Are you telling me Trump should've won Michigan with 47.7% of the vote or won Pennsylvania with 48.8% of the vote?
youre saying Hillary and Biden got the same amount of votes?
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
youre saying Hillary and Biden got the same amount of votes?
I am talking percentages, not turnout.

Look at Michigan since 2000:

Year - Democrat / Republican

00 -Al Gore 51.3%/ Bush 46.3%
04 -John Kerry 51.2%/ Bush 47.7%
08 -Obama 57.3%/ McCain 41.0%
12 -Obama 54.5% / Romney 44.5%
16 - Clinton 47.0% /Trump 47.3%
20 -Biden 50.6% / Trump 47.8%

Which year is the anomaly to you?

2020 is simply the 2016 election without a high third party turnout. Because of Trump's ceiling, he struggles to win in that situation.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
I am talking percentages, not turnout.

Look at Michigan since 2000:

Year - Democrat / Republican

00 -Al Gore 51.3%/ Bush 46.3%
04 -John Kerry 51.2%/ Bush 47.7%
08 -Obama 57.3%/ McCain 41.0%
12 -Obama 54.5% / Romney 44.5%
16 - Clinton 47.0% /Trump 47.3%
20 -Biden 50.6% / Trump 47.8%

Which year is the anomaly to you?

2020 is simply the 2016 election without a high third party turnout. Because of Trump's ceiling, he struggles to win in that situation.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
I am talking percentages, not turnout.

Look at Michigan since 2000:

Year - Democrat / Republican

00 -Al Gore 51.3%/ Bush 46.3%
04 -John Kerry 51.2%/ Bush 47.7%
08 -Obama 57.3%/ McCain 41.0%
12 -Obama 54.5% / Romney 44.5%
16 - Clinton 47.0% /Trump 47.3%
20 -Biden 50.6% / Trump 47.8%

Which year is the anomaly to you?

2020 is simply the 2016 election without a high third party turnout. Because of Trump's ceiling, he struggles to win in that situation.
of course you are

You’re ignoring the main premise of my point, millions of bunk votes brought in during the middle of the night for Biden
PA stopped counting votes at 11pm, trump ahead 750k
Then, mail in votes cover it for Biden
Also seen in GA and WI

You’re trump %s don’t address the fake Biden votes
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
of course you are

You’re ignoring the main premise of my point, millions of bunk votes brought in during the middle of the night for Biden
PA stopped counting votes at 11pm, trump ahead 750k
Then, mail in votes cover it for Biden
Also seen in GA and WI

You’re trump %s don’t address the fake Biden votes
Care to prove that the votes were fake? Or is this just your feels?
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Care to prove that the votes were fake? Or is this just your feels?
how do you know they were real?

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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
of course you are

You’re ignoring the main premise of my point, millions of bunk votes brought in during the middle of the night for Biden
PA stopped counting votes at 11pm, trump ahead 750k
Then, mail in votes cover it for Biden
Also seen in GA and WI

You’re trump %s don’t address the fake Biden votes
Yes, that's called counting the votes. We don't stop counting votes just because Trump is ahead lol

Also Trump was never going to win PA by 750,000 votes. As I said, he only got 48.2% of the vote in PA in 2016.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Yes, that's called counting the votes. We don't stop counting votes just because Trump is ahead lol

Also Trump was never going to win PA by 750,000 votes. As I said, he only got 48.2% of the vote in PA in 2016.
so the # of votes didn’t change from 2016 to 2020?

Lots of ways to work %s into arguments

Edit, just looked it up, PA added aprox 80pk more votes in 2020 vs 2016
Wonder who all additional those voters voted for
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
how do you know they were real?

In b4 no real response
Because countless audits, lawsuits, court proceedings, and investigations found nothing illegal. Especially expansive enough to cause a change in the outcome.

Now, answer my question instead of dodging it.
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
so the # of votes didn’t change from 2016 to 2020
2020 was always going to have a high turnout. Trump motivates people on both sides to show up. I don't see how it's relevant.

To prove my point: in 2018, the Democrats got 61 million votes and those were midterms. They only got 2 million less than what Trump did. 2020 was ALWAYS going to have high Democrat turnout. The 2018 midterms had Presidential year level turnout.

How else do you think I predicted the Democrat nominee was going to get 80 million+ votes in 2020?
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
2020 was always going to have a high turnout. Trump motivates people on both sides to show up. I don't see how it's relevant.

To prove my point: in 2018, the Democrats got 61 million votes and those were midterms. They only got 2 million less than what Trump did. 2020 was ALWAYS going to have high Democrat turnout. The 2018 midterms had Presidential year level turnout.

How else do you think I predicted the Democrat nominee was going to get 80 million+ votes in 2020?
right, so your % arguement goes out the door as the # voting changed

800k more from 2016 to 2020 in PA
I’m willing to bet, all mostly mail in considering the state changed their mail in voting laws right before the election
And just enough to cover trumps lead

You don’t think the exact same game plan will be utilized in 2024?
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
right, so your % arguement goes out the door as the # voting changed

800k more from 2016 to 2020 in PA
I’m willing to bet, all mostly mail in considering the state changed their mail in voting laws right before the election
And just enough to cover trumps lead

You don’t think the exact same game plan will be utilized in 2024?
So, you are basically just whining that people voted instead of not voted. That's the crux of the Republican Party after all. They tend to win elections when people don't vote. And naturally, you dodged every question about actual proof of illegal votes. You are basing everything on your emotions, as a woman would.
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
I’m willing to bet, all mostly mail in considering the state changed their mail in voting laws right before the election
I just told you 2018 already had super high turnouts. If 2018 had a low turnout, you may have had a point.

The fact is, Trump's ceiling in PA is no higher than 48.8%. You can win with that with high third party voting, but not without it.

North Carolina and Ohio also had mail-in ballots.
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