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post 1683915593 06-03-2023, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
You can't see the GOP nominating Trump? Have you not been watching literally every poll out for the last several months? He's been up consistently 30 to 40% over DeSantis the entire time since he officially announced like 6 months ago...
He's a three time loser versus Biden. They need to appeal to the undecided voter if they want to win power back, and that isn't going to happen with Trump. Ever.
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
Because of legal **** or the gop will phukk him?
Both. The legal shiet is going to affect his outlook heavily tho, even if he beats it all.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
LOL Independents. In other words Never Trumpers and liberals trying to be edgy
Bruh there are a BUNCH of independents that look at his legal shiet and say no thx jeff.
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Originally Posted By TCmaxxing⏩
Looks like Trump has this in the bag when Desantis endorses Trump and gets all the support from both GOP and independents
This. Rob will bend the knee.. They all do.
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post 1683916673 06-03-2023, 10:52 AM
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gop voters get the gop they deserve. they always vote for mcconnell, graham in primaries.


and when they vote for trump and get fking blown out by a vegetable in 24, i dont care.

theyve used trumps legal issues to get the q retards out to vote for trump. and when trump wins the nomination (which he will), thats when they will bring the indictments. clear election interference tbh.

but not my circus anymore. this is clear as day, magatards will give a vegetable that wants them dead another 4 years.
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post 1683918173 06-03-2023, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
gop voters get the gop they deserve. they always vote for mcconnell, graham in primaries.


and when they vote for trump and get fking blown out by a vegetable in 24, i dont care.

theyve used trumps legal issues to get the q retards out to vote for trump. and when trump wins the nomination (which he will), thats when they will bring the indictments. clear election interference tbh.

but not my circus anymore. this is clear as day, magatards will give a vegetable that wants them dead another 4 years.
Is it my fault that desantis cant win a primary? He cant even win in his own state. Honestly, stop whining like a little bitch
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Trumpers are ride or die for their cult leader.

It doesn't matter that the common sense screams for a better candidate who doesn't immediately turn away half of the population and all the independents. It doesn't matter that every single one of Trump's endorsement got schlonged in recent midterms (against very weak Democrats) which obviously reflects his low level of nationwide approval. Nothing matters to them.

I voted for Trump 3 times (twice in 2016 and once in 2020) and I'm more than happy to move on to someone else. The cult addiction is beyond me, especially for a guy whoALREADY HAD HIS CHANCEfrom 2017-2021 and didn't fulfill his core campaign promise of fixing the immigration problem.
post 1683921493 06-03-2023, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth⏩
Trumpers are ride or die for their cult leader.

It doesn't matter that the common sense screams for a better candidate who doesn't immediately turn away half of the population and all the independents. It doesn't matter that every single one of Trump's endorsement got schlonged in recent midterms (against very weak Democrats) which obviously reflects his low level of nationwide approval. Nothing matters to them.

I voted for Trump 3 times (twice in 2016 and once in 2020) and I'm more than happy to move on to someone else. The cult addiction is beyond me, especially for a guy whoALREADY HAD HIS CHANCEfrom 2017-2021 and didn't fulfill his core campaign promise of fixing the immigration problem.
Tell you what sport. I'll vote desantis in the florida prinary just to illustrate how retarded you are to think your vote matters. Ill get my wife and son to vote desantis too
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post 1683921763 06-03-2023, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
clear election interference tbh.
Ah, you're really far gone now
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post 1683922093 06-03-2023, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
You don't need a poll to know DeSantis would get more independent votes. Since this is the case wouldn't GOP's best political strategy be to get DeSantis through the primaries?
Exactly what I have said for months. DeSantis would win because he would get the right and the Ind's vote.

Trump will not.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
Exactly what I have said for months. DeSantis would win because he would get the right and the Ind's vote.

Trump will not.
Thats what they said about romney too. How did that work out
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post 1683922353 06-03-2023, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11⏩
Exactly what I have said for months. DeSantis would win because he would get the right and the Ind's vote.

Trump will not.
There's nohing to indicate Ron would win.

The whole "he will get more independents" is the line the GOP uses every election. They did it with McCain, Romney, Yeb

The people Trump appeals to is the working class, you know the people the GOP struggles as hell with. That's how he won. He can go to a rally, event, appearance and sway hearts and minds. People who think there are some magical independents that Ron will win are just being played by the MSM. GG

How does anyone win battle states? Win the working class
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Of people who actually vote, real Independents who might actually try to make a decision between one party or another are not even enough people to seriously consider. The reality is that pandering to independents and in the process losing some of your core base will end up costing you 3 votes for every vote casted. The only real group of "independents" are actually those who don't usually vote even if they support one candidate or the other. Getting them to go out and vote is key and I'll say the Democrats actually work on this actively.

Republicans: It's YOUR personal responsibility to register to vote, figure it out yoursef where you need to vote, and get off work early enough and get your ass there and stand in line to vote.

Democrats" You want to vote? Here, let me get you signed up. Don't worry, we'll pick you up take you to the polls and even buy you lunch. We will even fill out the ballot for you. We have an army of people on welfare who don't work so they have nothing else better to do especially when their benefits depend on your vote. Just sign here.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
There's nohing to indicate Ron would win.

The whole "he will get more independents" is the line the GOP uses every election. They did it with McCain, Romney, Yeb

The people Trump appeals to is the working class, you know the people the GOP struggles as hell with. That's how he won. He can go to a rally, event, appearance and sway hearts and minds. People who think there are some magical independents that Ron will win are just being played by the MSM. GG

How does anyone win battle states? Win the working class
Trump already lost in 2020, lost virtually every battleground state
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Poll: No bump for DeSantis from 2024 launch as Trump continues to climb

https://www.kiro7.com/news/national/...63HWKHIZT5WQI/

Looks like rontards have to find new cope

Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
There's nohing to indicate Ron would win.

The whole "he will get more independents" is the line the GOP uses every election. They did it with McCain, Romney, Yeb

The people Trump appeals to is the working class, you know the people the GOP struggles as hell with. That's how he won. He can go to a rally, event, appearance and sway hearts and minds. People who think there are some magical independents that Ron will win are just being played by the MSM. GG

How does anyone win battle states? Win the working class
Trump has a lot if support with independents too. You cant win with just republican support right now, you have to have both.

Like it or not, trump draws a huge populist vote from people that dont usually care enough to vote. They dont see a difference between a generic republican and a generic democrat so they dont care. But trump has convinced them that he's a true outsider. No republican wins if those people stay home, muh independents or not. Rontards can cry their eyes out about it but thats just reality.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Poll: No bump for DeSantis from 2024 launch as Trump continues to climb

https://www.kiro7.com/news/national/...63HWKHIZT5WQI/

Looks like rontards have to find new cope





Trump has a lot if support with independents too. You cant win with just republican support right now, you have to have both.

Like it or not, trump draws a huge populist vote from people that dont usually care enough to vote. They dont see a difference between a generic republican and a generic democrat so they dont care. But trump has convinced them that he's a true outsider. No republican wins if those people stay home, muh independents or not. Rontards can cry their eyes out about it but thats just reality.
Trump lost significant ground with the white working class in 2020. He lost PA, WI, and MI lol.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Trump lost significant ground with the white working class in 2020. He lost PA, WI, and MI lol.
Yeah trump got fortified. Desantis will have that problem too unless dems like him enough to give him a fair election. Not sure which is worse
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
Trump already lost in 2020, lost virtually every battleground state
Those states were only battlegrounds because Trump made them so. Before 2016 people said the GOP was dead in most of those places. Trump lost because people thought if he was gone, the Left would regain their sanity and life would be back to normal.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Yeah trump got fortified. Desantis will have that problem too unless dems like him enough to give him a fair election. Not sure which is worse
So dems possess the power to make unfair elections but might not use that power if DeSantis gets the nomination? If that were true they'd let Biden win regardless of who gets the nomination.

Dumbass.
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Jeb Bush will get 100% of the votes.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
There's nohing to indicate Ron would win.

The whole "he will get more independents" is the line the GOP uses every election. They did it with McCain, Romney, Yeb

The people Trump appeals to is the working class, you know the people the GOP struggles as hell with. That's how he won. He can go to a rally, event, appearance and sway hearts and minds. People who think there are some magical independents that Ron will win are just being played by the MSM. GG

How does anyone win battle states? Win the working class
Obama isn't on the ballot in 2024, a geriatric Joe Biden is. Romney and McCain lost because they are milquetoast "conservatives" that no one gets excited for, and because the Democrat on the ticket was Obama. Romney was the governor of Massachusetts ffs. Someone running considerably to the right of them like DeSantis would likely get conservatives butts to the polls, and simply not being a deranged moron like Blumpf would get independents to vote for him, especially against a senile invalid and a diversity hire (the ticket that Blumpf couldn't even beat as an incumbent)

As far as how he won in 2016, it's because his opponent was Hillary. Almost any other Democrat would have beaten him.

If there's nothing to indicate Ron can win, there's even less to indicate that Blumpf would. He already lost to the pathetic Biden/Harris ticket.
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Imagine believing there are Independent voters in 2023 America.

We are as split as ever as a nation thanks to the relentless anti-Conservative (and anti-American values) campaign from the MSM, Academia, tech Giants, and government alphabet institutions.

There are NO Independents left, buddy.
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
So dems possess the power to make unfair elections but might not use that power if DeSantis gets the nomination? If that were true they'd let Biden win regardless of who gets the nomination.

Dumbass.
Imagine being dumb enough to think it's republicans against dems. If it's a republican insider they'll be okay with it. Just like they'll try to shut out a democrat outsider like bernie or RFK
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Imagine being dumb enough to think it's republicans against dems. If it's a republican insider they'll be okay with it. Just like they'll try to shut out a democrat outsider like bernie or RFK
Let me guess DeSantis is a Jew plant and Trump is not a Jew plant.
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Originally Posted By iabs⏩
Imagine believing there are Independent voters in 2023 America.

We are as split as ever as a nation thanks to the relentless anti-Conservative (and anti-American values) campaign from the MSM, Academia, tech Giants, and government alphabet institutions.

There are NO Independents left, buddy.
You're talking to one, bud.
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Originally Posted By John
Obama isn't on the ballot in 2024, a geriatric Joe Biden is. Romney and McCain lost because they are milquetoast "conservatives" that no one gets excited for, and because the Democrat on the ticket was Obama. Romney was the governor of Massachusetts ffs. Someone running considerably to the right of them like DeSantis would likely get conservatives butts to the polls, and simply not being a deranged moron like Blumpf would get independents to vote for him, especially against a senile invalid and a diversity hire (the ticket that Blumpf couldn't even beat as an incumbent)

As far as how he won in 2016, it's because his opponent was Hillary. Almost any other Democrat would have beaten him.

If there's nothing to indicate Ron can win, there's even less to indicate that Blumpf would. He already lost to the pathetic Biden/Harris ticket.
In 2016 people had the mindset of let's try an outsider, traditional politicians aren't working for us. Then he got there and he was just some incompetent ph@gg0t mouthing off on twitter but not doing anything different as President than a generic Republican would do (tax cuts, criminal justice reform)
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
You're talking to one, bud.
Ok, so let me get this right.

You will consider voting for the party that supported the defund the police movement when it was politically convenient for them, the party that supports the mutilation of children in the name of "progress", the party that supports reparations, the party that wants to ban gas stoves, the party that promotes illegal immigration, shall I continue?

You WOULD vote for the Democrats if they "convince you"....

Is that right?
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Originally Posted By georgeenoob⏩
Let me guess DeSantis is a Jew plant and Trump is not a Jew plant.
I hope they find a cure for whats wrong with you
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Originally Posted By iabs⏩
Ok, so let me get this right.

You will consider voting for the party that supported the defund the police movement when it was politically convenient for them, the party that supports the mutilation of children in the name of "progress", the party that supports reparations, the party that wants to ban gas stoves, the party that promotes illegal immigration, shall I continue?

You WOULD vote for the Democrats if they "convince you"....
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Yes. Everything you've listed is why I'm not a full blown liberal aside from the gas stoves idgaf about gas stoves.

Edit: Also with illegal immigrants. They're human too.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
I hope they find a cure for whats wrong with you
Why, cause I don't believe in the usual GOP conspiracy theories?
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