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06-06-2023, 11:45 AM
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Intelligence Official says US has craft of "non human origin"
https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-...n-human-craft/
The authors, Keath and Blumenthal, are some of the investigator reporters that brought the world the 2017 New York Times report on how the Pentagon had UFO programs in place that the public and others were not aware of.. They put together the story on the "Tic Tak" video from multiple Navy pilots that we've seen over and over again
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/u...arry-reid.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/u...®ion=Footer
NOW... they have another story that a now former intelligence official named David Grusch has apparently both told Congress and the US Inspector General what he had been told, and found out himself.
My ELI5: A high level military intelligence official, with direct experience working and heading UAP investigation for the Depart of Defense, has whistleblowed that he has direct knowledge / has reviewed official military documentation of recovery programs (some successful) of non-human made craft. These claims are being backed up by additional intelligence officials corroborating his claims, both on and off the record. He also testified to Congress under oath for 11 hours.
Congress had not been told any of this, which has sparked a call for investigations as that would be illegal withholding the information from Congress. Multiple people from multiple levels of intelligence agencies all whistleblowing something is going on and corroborating what the others are saying.
- An interview with one of the researchers can be found here, he does a better job explaining than I do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjbFZT9_EM
- The article they keep talking about is what is referenced in this post: https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-...n-human-craft/
- Because this could be seen as complete BS, they also released a fact checking article: https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-...millan-part-1/
Now this article on Politico was released a few days prior to this story involving the Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Christopher Mellon:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...gence-00100077

The authors, Keath and Blumenthal, are some of the investigator reporters that brought the world the 2017 New York Times report on how the Pentagon had UFO programs in place that the public and others were not aware of.. They put together the story on the "Tic Tak" video from multiple Navy pilots that we've seen over and over again
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/u...arry-reid.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/u...®ion=Footer
NOW... they have another story that a now former intelligence official named David Grusch has apparently both told Congress and the US Inspector General what he had been told, and found out himself.
My ELI5: A high level military intelligence official, with direct experience working and heading UAP investigation for the Depart of Defense, has whistleblowed that he has direct knowledge / has reviewed official military documentation of recovery programs (some successful) of non-human made craft. These claims are being backed up by additional intelligence officials corroborating his claims, both on and off the record. He also testified to Congress under oath for 11 hours.
Congress had not been told any of this, which has sparked a call for investigations as that would be illegal withholding the information from Congress. Multiple people from multiple levels of intelligence agencies all whistleblowing something is going on and corroborating what the others are saying.
- An interview with one of the researchers can be found here, he does a better job explaining than I do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjbFZT9_EM
- The article they keep talking about is what is referenced in this post: https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-...n-human-craft/
- Because this could be seen as complete BS, they also released a fact checking article: https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-...millan-part-1/
Now this article on Politico was released a few days prior to this story involving the Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Christopher Mellon:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...gence-00100077

06-06-2023, 11:48 AM
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06-06-2023, 11:51 AM
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06-06-2023, 11:52 AM
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maybe made by dolphins, they’re supposed to be smart
06-06-2023, 11:56 AM
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy950 post_id=1684102703][img]https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/566850B1-1010-4FCB-BD3C-92A608716D3C_jpe-2839179.JPG[/ig][/QUOTE][QUOTE]David Charles Grusch, a 36-year-old decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan, served the National Reconnaissance Office, acting as their representative to Congress’ Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. At the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, he also served from late 2021 to July 2022 as co-lead of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) analysis and its representative to the task force, which was recently renamed the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office.
The Debrief first reported Monday that Grusch said he filed a whistleblower complaint to Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) on classified information that he insists proves the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the U.S. government, its allies and defense contractors.
The recoveries have been determined through analysis to be "of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures," Grusch said.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]"There is a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the U.S. populace which is extremely unethical and immoral," Grusch told News Nation, recognizing a "great personal risk and obvious professional risk" in speaking out publicly on the topic.
Grusch said he began providing hours of recorded classified information transcribed into hundreds of pages which included specific data about the materials-recovery program to Congress starting in 2022.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Grusch told The Debrief that unidentified flying object (UFO) "legacy programs" have long been concealed within "multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities."
He said he sounded the alarm to Congress on the existence of a decades-long "publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages."[/QUOTE]
[URL=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/military-whistleblower-public-claims-us-secret-ufo-retrieval-program-terrestrial-arms-race?intcmp=tw_fnc]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mil...?intcmp=tw_fnc[/URL]
The Debrief first reported Monday that Grusch said he filed a whistleblower complaint to Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) on classified information that he insists proves the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the U.S. government, its allies and defense contractors.
The recoveries have been determined through analysis to be "of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures," Grusch said.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]"There is a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the U.S. populace which is extremely unethical and immoral," Grusch told News Nation, recognizing a "great personal risk and obvious professional risk" in speaking out publicly on the topic.
Grusch said he began providing hours of recorded classified information transcribed into hundreds of pages which included specific data about the materials-recovery program to Congress starting in 2022.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Grusch told The Debrief that unidentified flying object (UFO) "legacy programs" have long been concealed within "multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities."
He said he sounded the alarm to Congress on the existence of a decades-long "publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages."[/QUOTE]
[URL=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/military-whistleblower-public-claims-us-secret-ufo-retrieval-program-terrestrial-arms-race?intcmp=tw_fnc]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mil...?intcmp=tw_fnc[/URL]
06-06-2023, 12:02 PM
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problem is all third hand knowledge.
pics or gtfo.
pics or gtfo.
06-06-2023, 12:03 PM
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So he got all that information but no pics? Ok then
**** is vague af. At least bob lazar had details in his story.
**** is vague af. At least bob lazar had details in his story.
06-06-2023, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Testifying under oath is definitely a bit different and he’s definitely more credible than Cleetus in the trailer park, I’ll admit
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06-06-2023, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
This guy is the most credible person to come forward on these issues we've ever had. He did give an "under oath" sworn testimony to Congress, and is under the "WhistleBlower Protection Act". He's so far the one to put his name on it, but there were reports of backroom Congressional meetings with him months ago, we just didn't know his name or what exactly he was talking about with them.So he got all that information but no pics? Ok then
**** is vague af. At least bob lazar had details in his story.
**** is vague af. At least bob lazar had details in his story.
Now the person above is right, that it seems to be he has never personally seen these ships/aliens/etc.. but he is pointing out documents, other credible accounts both on/off the record from other IC members saying/seeing the same thing he is seeing.
Here is a fact check article that was published along with the story (for obvious reasons)"
https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-...millan-part-1/
We’re actually reporting on the fact that he has already shared these details in an official capacity under oath to official bodies within the government, the Inspector General, and members of the congressional staff General Counsel. So that, to me, was what made this really unprecedented is that we’re seeing, we’re actually, this story is about us reporting on somebody already telling this story, officially under oath.
Now this guy can be full of chit... but that just means he's perjured himself and destroyed his career in order to....... I'm not even sure why? Whatever documents/information he has he gave to Congress, and they would then push forward further with an investigation.
06-06-2023, 12:54 PM
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Jonathan Grey, a current US intelligence official at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (Nasic), confirmed the existence of “exotic materials” to the Debrief, adding: “We are not alone.”
Grey, who, according to the Debrief, analyzes unexplained anomalous phenomena within the Nasic, confirmed Grusch’s account.
“The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone,” Grey said. “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”
The Debrief spoke to several of Grusch’s former colleagues, each of whom vouched for his character. Karl E Nell, a retired army colonel, said Grusch was “beyond reproach”. In a 2022 performance review seen by the Debrief, Grusch was described as “an officer with the strongest possible moral compass”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ech-spacecraftGrey, who, according to the Debrief, analyzes unexplained anomalous phenomena within the Nasic, confirmed Grusch’s account.
“The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone,” Grey said. “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”
The Debrief spoke to several of Grusch’s former colleagues, each of whom vouched for his character. Karl E Nell, a retired army colonel, said Grusch was “beyond reproach”. In a 2022 performance review seen by the Debrief, Grusch was described as “an officer with the strongest possible moral compass”.
06-06-2023, 01:13 PM
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Lol the administration is pulling out every card they have to distract from the woke dumpster fire they created and its corruption
06-06-2023, 01:19 PM
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I heard about this. I'm excited, but it could also just be a disinformation psyop designed to distract from Ukraine losing.
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Originally Posted By unusefulidiot⏩
If this was the case then NY Times, Washington Post, etc would all have jumped on the story instead of getting resistance from the Intelligence Community who apparently told some of the news organizations that if they run this story they will lose sources in the IC going forwardI heard about this. I'm excited, but it could also just be a disinformation psyop designed to distract from Ukraine losing.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
That could be part of the psyop to make it seem real tho. I'd need to see some hard evidence because it also implies almost everything we know about physics is wrong.If this was the case then NY Times, Washington Post, etc would all have jumped on the story instead of getting resistance from the Intelligence Community who apparently told some of the news organizations that if they run this story they will lose sources in the IC going forward
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-origin.html
Military whistleblower says US has recovered 'dead pilots' from craft of 'non-human origin' - and that world powers are involved in an 'arms-race' to reverse engineer crashed UFOs
Military whistleblower says US has recovered 'dead pilots' from craft of 'non-human origin' - and that world powers are involved in an 'arms-race' to reverse engineer crashed UFOs
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Originally Posted By unusefulidiot⏩
I just don't think this is something we're gonna be able to see, at least with this story. The Government and certain programs aren't going to be like "hey you're right, we were lying all this time. Here's a pic/video of a spacecraft"That could be part of the psyop to make it seem real tho.I'd need to see some hard evidencebecause it also implies almost everything we know about physics is wrong.
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