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post 1684321343 06-09-2023, 06:12 PM
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If they convict Trump it will show our democracy is a sham.

All the charges are deep state national security bs. You can't classify chit from the fuking president, even if he is a retard. He was our elected retard. He spoke for the people, and his will to classify chit or not should outweigh some fuking state security panel. Otherwise, that panel runs the show and not the people. If he goes to jail over this, it will mean our democracy is a lie. I say this as someone who formerly hated the orange bastard. I still hate him, but this will set a disturbing precedent.

The state is scared shtless Trump will out them all on their Iran war agenda and that he will win and pull us out of Ukraine. That's all this is. Empire gonna empire.



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post 1684321823 06-09-2023, 06:20 PM
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" If they convict Trump it will show our democracy is a sham."

1) US is an alleged Republic, not a Democracy
2) US hasn't been a Republic for a while now
Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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post 1684321923 06-09-2023, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz
" If they convict Trump it will show our democracy is a sham."

1) US is an alleged Republic, not a Democracy
2) US hasn't been a Republic for a while now
Are we rly doing this chit again?

What I mean is it will show the people aren't above the intelligence agencies/military. It will mean we have lost control over our state. This is not a partisan issue.
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Why are you posting CCP talking points in an attempt to rile people up? No one is buying this bull****. Those of us with any sense have already made accommodations for what's going to happen.
Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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post 1684322103 06-09-2023, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz
Why are you posting CCP talking points in an attempt to rile people up? No one is buying this bull****. Those of us with any sense have already made accommodations for what's going to happen.
What CCP talking points? LMAO.

Yeah? You have accomodations for beating the 900 billion dollar a year budget monstrosity? lol

We are all fuked. We are going to get an authoritarian chitstain govt, and unlike Xi, who seeks to develop and help the world and end poverty, it will be a tyrannical authoritarian regime controlled by a cabal of billionaires and deep state military apparatchiks hell bent on preserving their power and empire.

They'll get us all killed.
post 1684322303 06-09-2023, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted By unusefulidiot
What CCP talking points? LMAO.

Yeah? You have accomodations for beating the 900 billion dollar a year budget monstrosity? lol

We are all fuked. We are going to get an authoritarian chitstain govt, and unlike Xi, who seeks to develop and help the world and end poverty, it will be a tyrannical authoritarian regime controlled by a cabal of billionaires and deep state military apparatchiks.






All empires fall. All.
Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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post 1684322323 06-09-2023, 06:28 PM
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If Trump wanted to expose the elites/MIC Iran war agenda, why didn't he declassify these documents as President and show it to the American public? Or at least a right wing journalist who could then report it to the public.
post 1684322403 06-09-2023, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz






All empires fall. All.
I hope you're right.
post 1684322473 06-09-2023, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly
If Trump wanted to expose the elites/MIC Iran war agenda, why didn't he declassify these documents as President and show it to the American public? Or at least a right wing journalist who could then report it to the public.
I don't know. Maybe he's using them as leverage. Maybe he's scared of what would happen. Not sure. But the state is going pretty nuts over these docs and Trump's possession of them.
post 1684323093 06-09-2023, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
"All the United States wanted to do in Iraq and Afghanistan was help liberate those countries for the people!"

Freedom's a good marketing term for corrupt foreign policy. What you said in bold is in the same vein.
Except China hasn't done anything to suggest otherwise, unlike us.



China has made no effort to export their political system. They don't expect others to follow or understand it.
post 1684323393 06-09-2023, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
I hope they do convict Trump, why pretend we're a functioning, balanced Republic anymore? Take the full mask off.

Liberals and Deep State Ron supporting Republicans will cheer the new authoritarian nature of our government, and it'll add some better energetics to the MAGA fire.
Maybe. Or it's more like 1917 when the Bolsheviks took over.
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post 1684323663 06-09-2023, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
Human nature dictates that greed, power, and influence will lead China down the same road as every major hegemonic civilization before. History also tells us that.

Their predatory lending practices are enough of a preview, as is the volume of bullying going on in the Western Pacific by the Chinese Navy and Fishing Boat Flotillas. Sounds like you're underinformed, bud.
Nope. European nature dictates that. Eastern philosophy does not include proselytizing. It isn't part of the Eastern faith. Eastern ethics are also very different and far less tyrannical. Westerners believe in absolute law, deontology, universal adherence to Christianity/Islam/whatever. The Abrahamic scum has plagued the world for a long time and sought to convert others to its values. It's all part of the Angloid cognitive defect, one seemingly rectified in countries like Russia, which in spite of their large Christian population, never sought to impose those ethics upon others.

The US has far more predatory lending lol. Maybe look at our own banks. China is trying to invest in and develop the world with lasting partnerships.

You want to talk about overfishing? Go look at who fishes in everyone's waters and blatantly overfishes. It isn't China. It's Europeans.

Angloid filth assumes everyone is like them. Remember that China is an OLD civilization. They have thousands of years of statecraft, unlike the young and brash western Angloid subhuman filth. They aren't trying to export their system. Anglo Americans are.

Angloids just want to bomb everyone and force everyone to follow their warped and degenerate ethics. Muh markets. Muh billionaires. Pursue hedonism! Praise Jesus.

Jesus was a communist. He would have despised America - a land of hedonism and disgusting inequality catering to excess and gluttony and callous indifference to the plight of the downtrodden.
post 1684324023 06-09-2023, 06:59 PM
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Pretty much. The 2020 election was rigged and that's not changing anytime soon.
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post 1684324083 06-09-2023, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted By unusefulidiot
Jesus was a communist. He would have despised America - a land of hedonism and disgusting inequality catering to excess and gluttony and callous indifference to the plight of the downtrodden.
Communism is anti-God, you're an idiot. Also lol at thinking communism helps inequality
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post 1684324783 06-09-2023, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja
Communism is anti-God, you're an idiot. Also lol at thinking communism helps inequality
And Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, It is hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Sounds like he would agree with the commies on a lot. He was basically the OG commie.
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Originally Posted By unusefulidiot
And Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, It is hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Sounds like he would agree with the commies on a lot. He was basically the OG commie.
Obviously you do not understand the meaning of that parable. I'll prove it..what was the "eye of the needle" and how did it relate to Jerusalem?

Being rich isn't a sin. It's loving money above God that becomes the sin.

1 Timothy 6:10
For the LOVE of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

Jesus was not a communist. ..

-"The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want,” says Jesus in Matthew 26:11 and Mark 14:7. The key words there are you can help and want to help. ...That's not socialism or communism.

-2 Corinthians 9:7: “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion". ...That's not socialism or communism.

-In the Parable of the Talents, Jesus talks about a man who entrusts his wealth to three servants for a time. When the man returns, he learns that one of the servants safeguarded his share by burying it, the second put his share to work and multiplied it, the third invested his and generated the greatest return of all. Who’s the hero in the parable? The wealth-creating servant. The Capitalist


Christianity is truth. When the US took the Bible out of school, it went down hill. In China you have no rights, you are under authoritarian control, and can/will be killed for your beliefs.

Getting it wrong as always Wincel
post 1684325833 06-09-2023, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Obviously you do not understand the meaning of that parable. I'll prove it..what was the "eye of the needle" and how did it relate to Jerusalem?

Being rich isn't a sin. It's loving money above God that becomes the sin.

1 Timothy 6:10
For the LOVE of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

Jesus was not a communist. ..

-"The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want,” says Jesus in Matthew 26:11 and Mark 14:7. The key words there are you can help and want to help. ...That's not socialism or communism.

-2 Corinthians 9:7: “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion". ...That's not socialism or communism.

-In the Parable of the Talents, Jesus talks about a man who entrusts his wealth to three servants for a time. When the man returns, he learns that one of the servants safeguarded his share by burying it, the second put his share to work and multiplied it, the third invested his and generated the greatest return of all. Who’s the hero in the parable? The wealth-creating servant. The Capitalist


Christianity is truth. When the US took the Bible out of school, it went down hill. In China you have no rights, you are under authoritarian control, and can/will be killed for your beliefs.

Getting it wrong as always Wincel
Ya no compulsion, just the threat of burning in eternal hellfire luls.
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democracy is a fairy tale and always has been.

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But the FBI said mishandling classified documents, event to the extent of bleaching your hard drives, is considered “extremely carelessness” but not criminal
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Originally Posted By unusefulidiot
Ya no compulsion, just the threat of burning in eternal hellfire luls.
The choice is yours. Why would you want to spend eternity with God if you don't care to know Him now? God does not force you to spend eternity with Him. But don't ever blame anyone other than yourself.
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Originally Posted By Paul
The choice is yours. Why would you want to spend eternity with God if you don't care to know Him now? God does not force you to spend eternity with Him. But don't ever blame anyone other than yourself.
The choice is yours. Pay taxes or gulag. Same deal.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
Human nature doesn't discriminate by race, that's why China's actions are so predictable. They could have taken over the world by using their economic influence alone, but instead, they chose to assert themselves heavily in the South China Sea and sink a massive amount of investment into developing a "world class military". This in turn, has developed a lot of concern over the past few years for those that had a more benign view of China.

Some things don't change.
My point is you attribute to all of humanity what is a common design flaw among your own Angloid derived civilizations.

Why wouldn't China develop a world class military given what America has done? Are you joking? Look at what we did the last 3 decades.
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Originally Posted By unusefulidiot
The choice is yours. Pay taxes or gulag. Same deal.
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when even wincel realizes the danger this is going to set.


magadons wake up and smell the fking coffee and realize this isnt going to end with trump.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Soviets had representation. Look up what a Soviet is.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel
democracy is a fairy tale and always has been.

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Nah it can work, but it takes work and honesty from the people and the govt. People have to be committed to it.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
Hahahahaha never change.
Bruh we have a pretty batchit foreign policy. China has done nothing remotely as insane.
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Originally Posted By gwg77
To be fair, the President of Russia had his opposition shot in front of the Kremlin lmao. It's bad but not Russia bad. But still unacceptable for America.
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Originally Posted By unusefulidiot
Soviets had representation. Look up what a Soviet is.
Sometimes you are okay Wincel, but your hate for God is going to make you an angry, bitter and miserable man.
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