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post 1684329093 06-09-2023, 08:31 PM
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ITT some of the real OG pit bulls, real killers (pics)

I'm not into pit bulls or fighting dogs, but I do like to understand the history and read stories about MOGGDOGS of every breed. Pit bull fighters were obviously massive a-holes, but that also made them some of the best eugenicists. They would produce 100 pups from a dozen litters and only keep the best 3-4 to fight. Then repeat the same process dozens of times until you have the kennel you want. Photos are hard to come by for obvious reasons, but a few did survive.




Note that real american pit bull terriers are small, have a longer snout, and are super lean compared to most pit bulls being bred now. Look more like am staffs.


This is Crenshaw's Jeep born 1976, the most famous fighting dog ever, undefeated, took down the top dogs in the country









Carver's Indian Bolo, retired undefeated and sired 90 litters that include many fighting champions






Patrick's Buck, 7x winner


post 1684329153 06-09-2023, 08:32 PM
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Tom Garner's Spike, 5x winner









Tom Garner's Chinaman, 7x winner








Sunnyboy's Amadeus, 7x winner






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Originally Posted By monster0ultra
How do you feel about Michael Vick?
I've only ever heard the mass media version. Which, when it comes to dog fighting, is completely useless.
post 1684329593 06-09-2023, 08:42 PM
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So these fighting records, I imagine a 5x winner means that he killed 5 other dogs? Or can the other dog tap out somehow?
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah
So these fighting records, I imagine a 5x winner means that he killed 5 other dogs? Or can the other dog tap out somehow?
The loser often dies of injuries, but the fight isn't strictly "to the death." The owner can throw in the towel at any time and separate the dogs, typically when their dog stops defending itself.
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If you want a real life assault pit bull (great nanny dogs), you can buy one for about $1500-$5k from Tom Garner himself. He's still alive and has maintained old school fighting dog blood for 50+ years now. I read that a ton of his dogs end up going overseas.

https://www.tom-garner-kennels.com/


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[QUOTE=ErnieMccracken post_id=1684332483]If you want a real life assault pit bull (great nanny dogs), you can buy one for about $1500-$5k from Tom Garner himself. He's still alive and has maintained old school fighting dog blood for 50+ years now. I read that a ton of his dogs end up going overseas.

[URL=https://www.tom-garner-kennels.com/]https://www.tom-garner-kennels.com/[/URL]
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/GTRqKuR.png[/img][/QUOTE]"fine chinaman bitch named Whisper"

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Originally Posted By steeler505
"fine chinaman bitch named Whisper"

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Misc. hates pitbulls, get ready to get negged to oblivion.
I adopted a pitty from a shelter, looks exactly like "Patrick's Buck" above. He plays a bit rough and has had dogs bite him in the park because of it but he's never bitten back, he just think they want to play, I guess pitty's are a bit autistic like that. I don't take him any more because of this, pitty's should be kept by themselves not with other pits or dogs as they are likely to attack them at some point. 100% he would of been culled back in the day as he's not "game" with other dogs. By the way true 'gameness' meant that they would keep fighting for well over an hour even when losing and bleeding out, ripped apart and still not giving up, anything else was culled. Due to what they were bred for and the type of people that can own them today, breeding them should be banned, there's no point to them as dog fighting is banned now, thank god.
I've always thought if you love fighting, take up MMA/boxing, don't be a pussy and fight other animals for you. There are also better protection/guardian dogs, pitbulls are lethal weapons, deadly in the wrong hands.
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Originally Posted By Ausswolf
Misc. hates pitbulls, get ready to get negged to oblivion.
I adopted a pitty from a shelter, looks exactly like "Patrick's Buck" above. He plays a bit rough and has had dogs bite him in the park because of it but he's never bitten back, he just think they want to play, I guess pitty's are a bit autistic like that. I don't take him any more because of this, pitty's should be kept by themselves not with other pits or dogs as they are likely to attack them at some point. 100% he would of been culled back in the day as he's not "game" with other dogs. By the way true 'gameness' meant that they would keep fighting for well over an hour even when losing and bleeding out, ripped apart and still not giving up, anything else was culled. Due to what they were bred for and the type of people that can own them today, breeding them should be banned, there's no point to them as dog fighting is banned now, thank god.
I've always thought if you love fighting, take up MMA/boxing, don't be a pussy and fight other animals for you. There are also better protection/guardian dogs, pitbulls are lethal weapons, deadly in the wrong hands.
Yeah I've noticed the same thing about pit bulls in general. Some will ignore body language when another dog is uncomfortable or anxious and just keep building until a scuffle breaks out.

No need to ban them, though. We don't need the fukn federal government getting involved in policing dog genetics. If you want a pit bull, respect its capabilities and don't be a jerkoff and get someone hurt.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
If you want a real life assault pit bull (great nanny dogs), you can buy one for about $1500-$5k from Tom Garner himself. He's still alive and has maintained old school fighting dog blood for 50+ years now. I read that a ton of his dogs end up going overseas.

https://www.tom-garner-kennels.com/


do any of these end up as family pets? or do they have the decency to keep their bloodline completely segregated?
it's not hard to see why these psychotic dogs 'snap'. all it takes is some relation to one of these guys and it's only a matter of time
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JFL at manlet devil dogs with their sub-250 psi biteforce.

Bandog, Cane Corso & Kangal = 700+ psi monsters.



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Originally Posted By Rylol
JFL at manlet devil dogs with their sub-250 psi biteforce.

Bandog, Cane Corso & Kangal = 700+ psi monsters.
I'm a fan of these breeds too but they are too big for 99% of people to handle, just look at what Pitbulls can do and they are half the size of these breeds. Bandogs have a lot of Pitbull genetics in them these days, originally the name comes from band dog, as in they kept the dog on a chain during the day and let them off at night to guard properties. I kept my Pit on a chain if i had to leave it outside and i wasn't home, just look at all the attack videos floating around of pitbulls that get out. We have to keep our guns locked up in a safe here, same thing should apply to Pitty's, keep them safe and secure. Kangals are epic wolf killers and cane corsos are like giant pitbulls but they haven't been bred for gameness so i would guess they would get wrecked in the pit if they didn't win immediately. There's probably videos out there but i don't watch them, would rather see a nature video like a lion wrecking a hyena or something.
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Dang, never realized how open the scene is about what they are doing. They even have public online forums. Pretty crazy, considering it is a felony and they have busts every other month.

Also lol at the "nanny"dog idiots still believing their own bull****, while actual breeders still breed for gameness.
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Originally Posted By Staller432
do any of these end up as family pets? or do they have the decency to keep their bloodline completely segregated?
it's not hard to see why these psychotic dogs 'snap'. all it takes is some relation to one of these guys and it's only a matter of time
Dog fighting is mostly dead now and you go straight to PMITA prison if caught, so most of these dogs end up as "pets." People say they legally test their gameness by pitting them against big wild hogs in the field. I'm sure idiots are still making their own dipchit backyard bred pitbulls and selling them to the wrong homes, but that's every breed.

Opinions vary on how safe it is to have a true game dog inside the house. Some claim it's fine. Definitely never around other animals. One of the original creators of the breed, John P. Colby, watched his 2 year old nephew get mauled to death. Still kept his dogs though lol. There are a bunch of other APBT's that bit their handlers over the years.

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Originally Posted By Ausswolf
I'm a fan of these breeds too but they are too big for 99% of people to handle, just look at what Pitbulls can do and they are half the size of these breeds. Bandogs have a lot of Pitbull genetics in them these days, originally the name comes from band dog, as in they kept the dog on a chain during the day and let them off at night to guard properties. I kept my Pit on a chain if i had to leave it outside and i wasn't home, just look at all the attack videos floating around of pitbulls that get out. We have to keep our guns locked up in a safe here, same thing should apply to Pitty's, keep them safe and secure. Kangals are epic wolf killers and cane corsos are like giant pitbulls but they haven't been bred for gameness so i would guess they would get wrecked in the pit if they didn't win immediately. There's probably videos out there but i don't watch them, would rather see a nature video like a lion wrecking a hyena or something.
Of course dude, I understand why they're optimal for dog fighting. More than willing to fight to the death.

They make up more than 65% of all fatal dog attacks. Mogger rottweilers come in 2nd at just 10%. Says it all lol.
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Some pits just love to scrap. This 3rd one ran right in and joined the fight as ****** was beating the others with a motorcycle helmet lol.



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