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post 1684349243 06-10-2023, 08:19 AM
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$10K A Day- 3 Traits Common To Wealthy People

In the first 3 minutes or so I thought "wow, that makes so much sense".




The Three Traits

- a sense of inadequacy, seeing oneself as not enough

- believing they are special and deserve more than others

- impulse control, the ability to grind towards a goal





Gee, seems like that could correlate with some common miscer traits.

Of course it isn't just having these three traits, it is also dependent on how much of these traits you have. Personally have more than enough of the first one and on the third one I'm alright if I can engage my executive function well enough to choose a goal and prioritize it. Thinking I'm more deserving? Nah.

The opera singer was full up on both one and two. When we first met three was lacking, maybe due to circumstance [still young and living with part of his messed up family], but I feel like he got that sorted.
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post 1684349353 06-10-2023, 08:21 AM
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I watched this and around the 3 minutes mark I thought "wow, that makes so much sense".
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they were born into money
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Originally Posted By SteadySmokin
they were born into money
I thought about using successful instead of wealthy in the title, but went with matching the video title.

Sure, plenty of people are born into it.
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Have a job
Don’t spend all day on YT/Twitter
????
Profit
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Basically a less positive version of the Need for Achievement concept

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_achievement
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Originally Posted By DingleLarry
Have a job
Don’t spend all day on YT/Twitter
????
Profit
I've had lots of jobs. And none of them made me rich. YMMV
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Originally Posted By SteadySmokin
they were born into money
The vast majority of USA millionaires didnt inherit a dollar.
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I bet also being MALE is strongly-correlated.

I dunno. the only thing you own (if you're lucky) is TIME. Once you realize being rich doesn't necessary improve the mental aspects of your life its kinda of a fail. Also age plays a huge factor....being rich at 25 vs. 55 (younger better) is significant.

cliffs: we're all gonna die someday anyway (no not like you think.... on rockin' chairs sitting on porches overlooking well-manicured lawns when you are 94yo...I mean in car accidents, cancer at 52, shark attack, etc.)

btw: good way to get rich is making videos entitled "cracking the [insert anything here] CODE!" (also hit that like button and smash that subscribe!"
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Not rich so I can't really add but I can see it, but I'll word it a bit different. So you are aware of your own weaknesses but you know you have more potential so you work hard to level up even though you know it's going to take a lot of time and effort.

Thinking you are special is a common trait of losers.
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Originally Posted By DingleLarry
Have a job
Don’t spend all day on YT/Twitter
????
Profit
I know people that busted their ass their entire life and have little to nothing to show for it. Many of them are my dads friends (all boomers) and they still have no plans to retire, not because they want to keep busy, but because they can't afford to miss 1 paycheck and SS won't pay them enough to keep the lights on.

off the top of my head, the three that stand out the most:

-One was actually doing alright until he got divorced in his 40's and the misses took virtually everything from him. Basically had to start his life (savings) from scratch at 45.

-One had a landscaping business, was up on a ladder trimming a tree and a dog ran past and knocked over the ladder. Landed flat on his back and he's basically a cripple, and because landscaping was his only line of work (had the job since he was in his 20's he had no other skills). So he's been on disability for over 20 years.

-the third went to Alaska to work on an oil rig and came back looking 10 years older even though he was only gone for a year and broken in pretty much everyway imaginable since the work is so arduous. shoulder pain/back pain/knee pain/ankle pain....pretty much hurts everywhere 24/7. Because it was contracted work he had no health insurance so all the money he made working up there he burned through it all just trying to heal his body with medications and surgeries.

These guys weren't lazy and they have the broken bodies (knee/lowerback/shoulder surgeries) from doing tradie work for decades to show for it.

So, no. The solution is not just "get off the internet and have a job"
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Originally Posted By katya422
I've had lots of jobs. And none of them made me rich. YMMV
Since I like you so much I'll tell you the REAL answer. its not what these no-chin bearded phggts would have you believe in the vid.

not rich (but hey some people say I'm smart as fuk...pretty lazy tbh but had a full-ride all-expenses paid college education so better description is wuz smart)

the answer is...



wait for it phgots...


btw...I've contributed so many seismic things to the misc its actually difficult to quantify. I see shyt I've conjured up thrown around all the time tbh....so under-repped its at least a civil case if not criminal...lol at repping whiny kunts like @notbrad whatever for posting his choice in socks for the day and getting repped like slot-machine getting quarters at a seniors' casino.




the answer is leverage. ya gotta figure out a way to maximize your input vs your output. all rich people (unless lucky) have figured this out. I haven't but like I said kinda lazy even though it would benefit my long-term outlook.
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Theres like 10 of these "wealth youtubers" that arent frauds

would never take wealth advice from an influencer, theyre all grifters
Great MAGA King status

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Originally Posted By Smithers115
Theres like 10 of these "wealth youtubers" that arent frauds

would never take wealth advice from an influencer, theyre all grifters
This. They're always selling some book or course, and 9 times out of 10 they didn't get rich from following their own advice they got rich selling the courses that contain the advice, and more often than not its nothing special and information you can find for free with a tiny bit of research. All these crypto/NFT/Option traders/FOREX bros on twitter are the same way too.

There's always a grift. ALWAYS.
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Originally Posted By Destor
Basically a less positive version of the Need for Achievement concept

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_achievement
-Ish?
Need for achievement (N-Ach) is an individual's desire for significant accomplishment, mastering of skills, control, or high standards. The term was first used by Henry Murray and associated with a range of actions. These include: "intense, prolonged and repeated efforts to accomplish something difficult. To work with singleness of purpose towards a high and distant goal. To have the determination to win". The concept of N-Ach was subsequently popularized by the psychologist David McClelland.
This part is interesting, but not quite the same:
Need for Achievement is related to the difficulty of tasks people choose to undertake. Those with low N-Ach may choose very easy tasks, in order to minimize risk of failure, or highly difficult tasks, such that a failure would not be embarrassing.Those with high N-Ach tend to choose moderately difficult tasks, feeling that they are challenging, but within reach.

People high in N-Ach are characterized by a tendency to seek challenges and a high degree of independence. Their most satisfying reward is the recognition of their achievements.
From the interview setting an achievable goal kind of fits, but I would say that some may very much push the boundaries of achievability.

And this part:
Sources of high N-Ach include:

- Parents who encouraged independence in childhood
- Praise and rewards for success
- Association of achievement with positive feelings
- Association of achievement with one's own competence and effort, not luck
- A desire to be effective or challenged
- Intrapersonal Strength
- Desirability
- Feasibility
- Goal Setting Abilities
May describe some miscers for sure, but judging post here I think that a lot of that "parents encouraged independence" was more like "parents failed to provide proper support and nurturing or to set a good example". I guess either one will lead a person to strong feelings about independence.
Originally Posted By metroins
The only trait I know for success is being greedy.
FWIW Tom said in the interview that he was poor as a kid and he hated it...hated not being able to have and do the things that he wanted...so he decided at an early age that he was going to be rich.
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Originally Posted By andrepmeet
Since I like you so much I'll tell you the REAL answer. its not what these no-chin bearded phggts would have you believe in the vid.

not rich (but hey some people say I'm smart as fuk...pretty lazy tbh but had a full-ride all-expenses paid college education so better description is wuz smart)

the answer is...



wait for it phgots...


btw...I've contributed so many seismic things to the misc its actually difficult to quantify. I see shyt I've conjured up thrown around all the time tbh....so under-repped its at least a civil case if not criminal...lol at repping whiny kunts like @notbrad whatever for posting his choice in socks for the day and getting repped like slot-machine getting quarters at a seniors' casino.




the answer is leverage. ya gotta figure out a way to maximize your input vs your output. all rich people (unless lucky) have figured this out. I haven't but like I said kinda lazy even though it would benefit my long-term outlook.
This is an excellent addition and I can't refudiate it.
Originally Posted By Smithers115
Theres like 10 of these "wealth youtubers" that arent frauds

would never take wealth advice from an influencer, theyre all grifters
Tom must be one of the 10 then. He doesn't need the money. Started Quest and sold it off for a bundle. Now he and his wife have their YT thing going on and Tom has a personal project though the focus isn't immediately coming to mind.
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Not gonna watch it, but it seems like clickbait, brb click here to see what every rich person has in common!(number 3 will surprise you)
Was there a study done? Or is it just someone telling us what we want to hear?
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Originally Posted By katya422
This is an excellent addition and I can't refudiate it.
youre welcome friend.

that said I would think that writing "refute" is a more precise word to use than "refudiate" as in your reply...although contextually are very similar definitions.
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Originally Posted By jonmcd46
Not gonna watch it, but it seems like clickbait, brb click here to see what every rich person has in common!(number 3 will surprise you)
Was there a study done? Or is it just someone telling us what we want to hear?
Said it was a study. I haven't found Tom Bilyeu or Chris Williams to be clickbait.
Originally Posted By andrepmeet
youre welcome friend.

that said I would think that writing "refute" is a more precise word to use than "refudiate" as in your reply...although contextually are very similar definitions.
Could have gone either way. But, yes, refute would be more precise.
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1 isn't right, but it is related to what is right.

1 is somethng that drives 3.

It could be making sure that they would never be poor again, proving to their parents/bulliies that theyaregood enough, wanting to be admired, wanting to provide for their family, wanting to change the world or one of a bunch of other things.

The way you have 1 stated is at odds with 2.

I would state it as:

1) a core personality trait that motivates them to succeed
2) the self belief that theywillsucceed
3) the ability to block out all other factors to ensure that theydosucceed.

2 and 3 are why you see a lot of overlap with narcissicm, sociopathy and autism. The level of 2 and 3 needed is viewed as beyond the norm and therefore is technically abnormal, although not necessarilybad.
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny
1 isn't right, but it is related to what is right.

1 is somethng that drives 3.

It could be making sure that they would never be poor again, proving to their parents/bulliies that theyaregood enough, wanting to be admired, wanting to provide for their family, wanting to change the world or one of a bunch of other things.

The way you have 1 stated is at odds with 2.

I would state it as:

1) a core personality trait that motivates them to succeed
2) the self belief that theywillsucceed
3) the ability to block out all other factors to ensure that theydosucceed.

2 and 3 are why you see a lot of overlap with narcissicm, sociopathy and autism. The level of 2 and 3 needed is viewed as beyond the norm and therefore is technically abnormal, although not necessarilybad.
I like your restatement. I just tried to capture what was being said in the conversation more or less verbatim.

And this is Tom Bilyeu.



^^^
He does notneedyour clicks. He has chosen a new mission to chase and I'm sure more money is not a bad thing, but I don't think it is his driving ambition any longer.
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Originally Posted By katya422
I like your restatement. I just tried to capture what was being said in the conversation more or less verbatim.

And this is Tom Bilyeu.



^^^
He does notneedyour clicks. He has chosen a new mission to chase and I'm sure more money is not a bad thing, but I don't think it is his driving ambition any longer.
Money and success aren't the same thing.

Above a certain level, it is just a score. Some people will keep trying to get the highest score, whereas others will change the game they play. They will try and get as many votes as possible, sleep with as many women as possible, get as much public admiration as possible etc

He has chosen a new game and is trying to get the high score. The game and the rules may not make sense to other people, but they make sense tohimand it's what gets him out of bed in the morning.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Said it was a study. I haven't found Tom Bilyeu or Chris Williams to be clickbait.
Can you link the study? I have no clue who either of those individuals are. Not saying its incorrect, but I don't trust social media
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Originally Posted By Maestro
This. They're always selling some book or course, and 9 times out of 10 they didn't get rich from following their own advice they got rich selling the courses that contain the advice, and more often than not its nothing special and information you can find for free with a tiny bit of research. All these crypto/NFT/Option traders/FOREX bros on twitter are the same way too.

There's always a grift. ALWAYS.
watched the first five min, all this could be true but I think the logic is sound

god complex, delayed gratification/focus and insecurity

as long as you arent low iq this does sound like a recipe for success if you can grind complex and lofty goals for years and genuinely believe you deserve to suceed
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Originally Posted By jonmcd46
Can you link the study? I have no clue who either of those individuals are. Not saying its incorrect, but I don't trust social media
The other guy in the clip:
Alex Hormozi is best known for founding Gym Launch. His ability to scale businesses to hundreds of millions of dollars through systems that generate high cash flow, sales, and digital products is how he’s gone from broke to success most people only dream of.

In this short segment, Alex reveals the exact traits needed to succeed. He also shares one of the biggest secrets to making these traits work for you and why most people can’t achieve the success they dream of. Being totally committed to an idea or belief of what will work for an undetermined amount of time is hardcore.
^^^
Pro tip: you don't have to watch the video to read about the video.

Did a quick search. Most likely this study:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...plain-success/
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I have the third attribute. Tbh 10k per day is unnecessary. Like why do I need that much money per day. You can live just as good on $1,000 a day.
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Originally Posted By AdvancedDreamer
I have the third attribute. Tbh 10k per day is unnecessary. Like why do I need that much money per day. You can live just as good on $1,000 a day.
That sounds like a different thing. Either being content [not a bad attribute] or chasing a metric other than money [also not a bad thing].

I wanted to start a small business when I was in my early 20's because I realized I was going nowhere working for other people and also wanted to do work that I enjoyed. I wanted money not for the money, but for this idea I had that if I could create the right physical environment then I could have what I really wanted- a happy secure family.

Never followed through on starting a business specifically due to the conditions I discovered in the industry I wanted to work in and even more because I met and married my first husband and then my energy went towards helping him chase his dream of being a professional opera singer.

The second one, a sort of cargo cultism [create the space, get the people] I thought I had licked, but maybe not completely. Still have that going on a bit. Not to impress anyone else, but I've thought again recently that I could have my energy focused in the wrong places.

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I guess thats why I'm so successful
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Originally Posted By Smithers115
Theres like 10 of these "wealth youtubers" that arent frauds

would never take wealth advice from an influencer, theyre all grifters
This, they're the finance version of fake natties.
“Steroids is now just a word that the lazy and ignorant use to describe any guy that has more muscle and dedication than them”– Mike O'Hearn


"I am like getting the feeling of cumming in the gym; I'm getting the feeling of cumming at home; I'm getting the feeling of cumming backstage; when I pump up, when I pose out in front of 5000 people I get the same feeling, so I am cumming day and night. It's terrific, right? So you know, I am in heaven."
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