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This lady recently committed suicide, but she wrote a book back in 2006, where she tried to spend 18 months as a man: dating, joining a bowling league, executing a sales job, etc. Before the project was over she checked into a suicide clinic because hard mode is hard mode.

I've not read the book, but found some excerpts from reviews that covered it back in 2006, and its incredible. Basically, being a man turned her into a miscer. Check some quotes:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...r.bookextracts

"Many of my dates - even the more passive ones - did most of the talking. I listened to them talk literally for hours about the most minute, mind-numbing details of their personal lives; men they were still in love with, men they had divorced, roommates and co-workers they hated, childhoods they were loath to remember yet somehow found the energy to recount ad nauseam. Listening to them was like undergoing a slow frontal lobotomy."

This was signal enough for me, so I stood up, made my way over to their table and asked them whether they wanted to join us for a drink.

"No, thanks," one of them said, "we're on our way out in a minute."

Simple enough, right? A brush-off. No biggie. But as I turned away and slumped back across the room toward our table,I felt like the outcast kid in the lunchroom who trips and dumps his tray on the linoleum in front of the whole school.

The women I met wanted a man to be confident. They wanted in many ways to defer to him. I could feel that on many dates, the unspoken desire to be held up and led,whether in conversation or even in physical space, and at times it made me feel quite small in my costume, like a young man must feel when he's just coming of age and he's suddenly expected to carry the world under his arm like a football. And some women did find Ned too small physically to be attractive. They wanted someone, they said, who could pin them to the bed or, as one woman put it, "someone who can drive the bus". Ned was too willowy for that. I began to understand from the inside why Robert Crumb draws his women so big and his diminutive self begging at their heels around the room.Yet as much as these women wanted a take-control man, at the same time they wanted a man who was vulnerable to them, a man who would show his colours and open his doors, someone expressive, intuitive, attuned. This I was in spades, and I always got points for it. But I began to feel very sympathetic toward heterosexual men - the pressure to be a world-bestriding colossus is an immensely heavy burden to bear, and trying to be a sensitive new age guy at the same time is pretty well impossible. Expectation, expectation, expectation was the leitmotif of Ned's dating life.

Lold - thye've no idea what they want.

Sex is most powerful in the mind, and to men, in the mind, women have a lot of power, not only to arouse, but to give worth, self-worth, meaning, initiation, sustenance, everything. Seeing this more clearly through my experience, I began to wonder whether the most extreme men resort to violence with women because they think that's all they have, their one pathetic advantage over all she seems to hold above them. I make no excuses for this. There are none. But as a man I felt vaguely attuned to this mind-set or its possibility. I did not inhabit it,but I thought I saw how rejection might get twisted beyond recognition in the mind of a discarded male where misogyny and ultimately rape may be a vicious attempt to take what cannot be taken because it has not been bestowed.

Here shes understanding incels and the school shooter mentality (yikes!)

Dating women was the hardest thing I had to do as Ned, even when the women liked me and I liked them. I have never felt more vulnerable to total strangers, never more socially defenceless than in my clanking suit of borrowed armour. But then, I guess maybe that's one of the secrets of manhood that no man tells if he can help it.Every man's armour is borrowed and 10 sizes too big, and beneath it he's naked and insecure and hoping you won't see.

Her main problem is this: she never earned the right to be a man, she was just impersonating one, so she never went through the experiences needed to be one. Which is why she thinks all our armor is borrowed and that we're all insecure. Also why she checked into a suicide facility. Sad!

New and exciting

Not new, but this basically outlines a script of why you're not going to see a whole lota F to M transitions. LOL

I never saw the misc cover this back in the day, but maybe I missed it. Most of her quotes and experiences can be multiplied by 10 now that bumble/tinder etc exist.

Honestly fascinating that she could come to hate her own just because she viewed them through a men's lense. Crazy .

A lot of truth in that..but if people were raised in the Word, all throughout the Bible instructs the same.

Woman was created from the rib of man..side by side they are equal, but under the arm..protection of a man. When women go out and seek that comfort & desire to be protected in other aspects, they most always end up miserable & hating life. This is also why dykes in a relationship one always dresses, or takes on the mannerisms of a man. Why tf would you do that if you don’t like men & are trying to attract a person that does not like men either? Because God engrained in us how we are to be.

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I think I've heard thatallegedlythere's been an uptick in sloots "transitioning" to men and that they're actually outpacing mtf (sloots gon sloot afterall). If so, I imagine A LOT of them are in for a very rude awakening.

inb4 they become slayers and actually mog you betas

I mean she never pretended to actually transition. She refers to herself as in disguise. So shes a chick who knows shes a chick, literally just acting like a dood. (No tranny)
I want to beleaf

Same vibes:

Hard mode is hard more - doctors didn't tell em. JFL at her justification that even though shes experienced it first hand "the cis straight males still have all the power"

JFL - can't make this up.

damn he’s convincing AF and better looking than most of y’all

first thought when I saw it too. He looks like a typical bro, but emotionally & mind set is clearly a womens. Bruuutal.

even as a chadlite it’s still hard outchea.

Andrew Tate been said this many times, life as a man is brutal

Well the woman in the op, if I recall, had some other mental health issues, so I'm sure her experience worsened her mental state. The redpill crowd wants to think some otherwise normal lesbian (if such a thing exists) wanted to prove men have it easier, tried being a man for a little while, killed herself as a result. Makes for an interdasting story.

She was pretty spot-on in that first quote, though.
Brb "I want a man who can keep a conversation!"
Brb inserts a lot of inane bull****, talks about other men she's fuking or used to fuk

There is some substance that this experiment pushed her in the wrong direction, but lets be real, it was 16 years between this book and her suicide, so I would say theres of course more to it (which is why I didn't link the 2 in the OP).

Clearly this experiment damaged her - she couldn't get through her full 18 months, and she wound up checking into a suicide care facility, so theres prolly some merit to that line of reasoning. But I'd wager she was a mess probably from the get go and her journalism kept pushing her in the wrong direction

I think the line of thinking of "she got redpilled then roped" is naturally too simple.

This was before social media really kicked off, dating apps etc, let that sink in. Imagine if she did this now

Back then you just had to compete and be the best of a small crowd. Now you have to compete with the world

Exactly, ****ing exactly. Multiply her experience 10 fold now. Not a good sign bruh.

Been posted on the misc a 1000 times

This is why women are not EMPATHETIC they only see life through female lenses and why feminism is evil, they have no clue that the majority of men are good, they focus on the few men who say misogynistic things, women ignore good men who treat them like queens.

If they were to live in a mans shoes they will cry and curl in a ball, men do not get sympathy, they dont get the privilege of doing bad things crying and saying they were depressed and getting a pass and saying its not your fault don't cry

if a man cheated on his woman you know what they will tell him if he cries oh stop being a bitch you are a scumbag you are evil you sorry excuse.

If a woman cheats she cries and says he was not there for her and depressed many people will coddle her and say now now its okay dont cry we live and learn, if he aint willing to give you a second chance he doesn't deserve you

I remember reading a story online from like 2007, it was a transgender female to male, who was 5 foot 4 and she became suicidal she said no girl wanted him, she felt insecure, she said it was hard and when she worked a job the female workers were talking behind her back calling him a pussy and sissy and laughed how he cried under stress and called him pathetic she overheard all this and ran home crying.

She was still a woman mentally and emotionally and was shocked that the female employees would belittle her but she forgot she was a man now and she realizes that it is true women dont care a bout means feelings. Because when she was a female and cried under stress she got comfort but when a man is understress and cries they didnt give her any support and told her to stop being a sissy.

damn, before my time prollyAs a man, you can never let em see you sweat