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06-14-2023, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You think Walmart has special air filters for covid? LOL are you retarded?And you got three out of four answers wrong - and a year ago, you would have had all four wrong.
Nice to see progress though, admitting that you were wrong in the past.
But still... Three out of four still means you're the loony.
Nice to see progress though, admitting that you were wrong in the past.
But still... Three out of four still means you're the loony.

06-14-2023, 08:36 AM
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how about when the misc reopened and you swore you grew up and would be cool and it took like four days before you had a meltdown
then for a place you are so desperate to be a part of - you will try to purposefully destroy it or at least make it unappealing to others because you broke the rules
that's insanity
then for a place you are so desperate to be a part of - you will try to purposefully destroy it or at least make it unappealing to others because you broke the rules
that's insanity
06-14-2023, 08:37 AM
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06-14-2023, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Whoa buddy. I just made this account. Long time lurker tho.how about when the misc reopened and you swore you grew up and would be cool and it took like four days before you had a meltdown
then for a place you are so desperate to be a part of - you will try to purposefully destroy it or at least make it unappealing to others because you broke the rules
that's insanity
then for a place you are so desperate to be a part of - you will try to purposefully destroy it or at least make it unappealing to others because you broke the rules
that's insanity
06-14-2023, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Yeah that sounds pretty dumb and like something a retard would try to use as a strawman tbh.So you admit that anyone who thinks ( or thought ) that Walmarts have special anti-covid filtration is in fact a "retard"?

Is English not your first language?
06-14-2023, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ⏩
oh so multiple personalities instead?Whoa buddy. I just made this account. Long time lurker tho.
If only there were a term for that so people could define them as insane
06-14-2023, 08:40 AM
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06-14-2023, 08:41 AM
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06-14-2023, 08:42 AM
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Anyway, ignoring Russian derailment, Stalin was a pretty cool dude, and it's fun and cool to dismember nazis.
Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Can you link the post? Sounds like a strawman of a claim.Thanks for confirming that according to you, wincel is in fact "retarded", because he literally made that claim back in 2020.


06-14-2023, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ⏩
are you a scientist?Are you a psychiatrist?
06-14-2023, 08:44 AM
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Stalin was a pretty cool dude, and it's fun and cool to dismember nazis.


Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You're welcome.And there's the "pin":
Thanks for confirming that according to you, wincel is in fact "retarded", because he literally made that claim back in 2020.

Thanks for confirming that according to you, wincel is in fact "retarded", because he literally made that claim back in 2020.


06-14-2023, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ⏩
Basically, most people answer these wrong. I can't take them seriously.Questions:
1) Do you believe in God?
2) Do you think humanity will run out of non renewable resources?
3) Do you think a few people should control all the capital? Will that help humanity thrive?
4) Do you think a nationalist self centered approach is best for solving international problems? Will it make war more or less likely?
Because there are right answers to these questions, and those who get them wrong are not sane.
1) Do you believe in God?
2) Do you think humanity will run out of non renewable resources?
3) Do you think a few people should control all the capital? Will that help humanity thrive?
4) Do you think a nationalist self centered approach is best for solving international problems? Will it make war more or less likely?
Because there are right answers to these questions, and those who get them wrong are not sane.
06-14-2023, 08:48 AM
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what is the past tense of cast?
06-14-2023, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ⏩
no one takes you seriouslyBasically, most people answer these wrong. I can't take them seriously.
except maybe the FBI
06-14-2023, 08:50 AM
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OP, are you Wincel? You can PM me if you don't want to admit it here.
Have you considered working in academia on political science or political philosophy? Academia is still fairly sturdy stronghold for Marxist thought. You'd still be in your country, unless you moved overseas, but you'd be amongst some pretty intelligent like-minded thinkers.
Marxist ideals are still prevalent in sociology especially with all social justice stuff and the uprising of the LQBT community and wokeism etc. And plus, academia is mostly left leaning because it encourages critical thinking and dealing with a plurality of complex positions.
You could do some good work here.
Btw, please Anachron, that dude is a pathetic troll. He's keeping a running update of my reps and linking people to my posts and begging them to neg me. How that maggot isn't banned for flagrant rule violation is beyond me. Just ignore him.
Have you considered working in academia on political science or political philosophy? Academia is still fairly sturdy stronghold for Marxist thought. You'd still be in your country, unless you moved overseas, but you'd be amongst some pretty intelligent like-minded thinkers.
Marxist ideals are still prevalent in sociology especially with all social justice stuff and the uprising of the LQBT community and wokeism etc. And plus, academia is mostly left leaning because it encourages critical thinking and dealing with a plurality of complex positions.
You could do some good work here.
Btw, please Anachron, that dude is a pathetic troll. He's keeping a running update of my reps and linking people to my posts and begging them to neg me. How that maggot isn't banned for flagrant rule violation is beyond me. Just ignore him.
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
06-14-2023, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Thank you for acknowledging some of my points have merit even if you don't fully agree - it truly does show some ability to have your perspective altered which is rare and commendable.Oh, well that's rather convenient. For such a "far right overton window" we sure do enable a lot of moochers/have quite the welfare state in this country as well.
With that said - I do agree with some of what you're saying.
With that said - I do agree with some of what you're saying.
To further the discussion, I would not characterize the mere existence of basic social safety nets like unemployment insurance, social security and medicaid/care as evidence of the US being on the left of the overton window. They are leftist in their essence, but it turns out such programs are a necessary concession given their impact on social stability. I'm not aware of any western country who does not have some type of social safety nets for this reason, despite them all being capitalist. Capitalists have even made peace with these basic programs because it is dangerous to have a labor force that's so on the edge that they consider organizing and creating unrest for the ruling class. Civil unrest is largely bad for business.
These programs also create demand to offset their cost, since it turns out that unemployed and old people spend their social security checks... on goods and services that capitalists own (GDP). People going to the hospital (whether covered by private or public insurance) generates profits, employs healthcare workers and generates need for medical supplies. Some companies take it even further and use these safety nets as an excuse to provide their workers with less than living wages and paltry benefits (looking at you Walmart). Finally, from a moral perspective, I prefer people to have some baseline assurance that they won't die in the streets from treatable illnesses or go hungry because they failed to find employment or can't work anymore. I don't want people to suffer needlessly because they have some disability or are merely a victim of a recession that capitalism inherently creates, completely out of their control.
That being said, I personally think that the abuses and "moochers" of such programs are relatively immaterial compared to the overall good they provide. Every system will have abusers and we should design ways to prevent them where feasible, but that fact alone should not be a reason to dismantle or scale them back.
06-14-2023, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By GNCPOV⏩
He is retarded, unfortunately.Are you? If you think the overton window in the US is to the left, than you are radically overestimating the effect of culture war issues such as LGBT and abortion. These issues are overblown by the media in an effort to distract you from the actual issues and further divide the populace in endless bickering between the working class.
I choose to focus on things that actually affect all citizens lives materially and what actually slides the overton window one way or the other. In the US, the ultra-wealthy, corporations and their captured government officials continue their successful crusade of neoliberal politics, a right wing ideology subscribed to by both republicans and democrats.
Neoliberalism calls for limited direct government intervention in the economy, systematic deregulation and a dismantling of collective bargaining and union power. Even worse, capitalists abandon this ideology when convenient by hypocritically also crying for government subsidies to boost their profit margins and socializing losses via bailouts when their overly risky businesses fail. As a result, we have massively widening wealth inequality, concentrated market power in a few industry players, and some of the worst social health scores (education, healthcare, crime etc.) in the western world, especially when considering the cost.
We are far closer to descending into fascism (capitalists supporting one party/person rule with extreme militarism/nationalism and dedicated scapegoats) than we are anywhere near socialism (democratic control of the means of production), much less communism (no private property, equal outcomes etc.)
I choose to focus on things that actually affect all citizens lives materially and what actually slides the overton window one way or the other. In the US, the ultra-wealthy, corporations and their captured government officials continue their successful crusade of neoliberal politics, a right wing ideology subscribed to by both republicans and democrats.
Neoliberalism calls for limited direct government intervention in the economy, systematic deregulation and a dismantling of collective bargaining and union power. Even worse, capitalists abandon this ideology when convenient by hypocritically also crying for government subsidies to boost their profit margins and socializing losses via bailouts when their overly risky businesses fail. As a result, we have massively widening wealth inequality, concentrated market power in a few industry players, and some of the worst social health scores (education, healthcare, crime etc.) in the western world, especially when considering the cost.
We are far closer to descending into fascism (capitalists supporting one party/person rule with extreme militarism/nationalism and dedicated scapegoats) than we are anywhere near socialism (democratic control of the means of production), much less communism (no private property, equal outcomes etc.)
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06-14-2023, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
727OP, are you Wincel? You can PM me if you don't want to admit it here.
Have you considered working in academia on political science or political philosophy? Academia is still fairly sturdy stronghold for Marxist thought. You'd still be in your country, unless you moved overseas, but you'd be amongst some pretty intelligent like-minded thinkers.
Marxist ideals are still prevalent in sociology especially with all social justice stuff and the uprising of the LQBT community and wokeism etc. And plus, academia is mostly left leaning because it encourages critical thinking and dealing with a plurality of complex positions.
You could do some good work here.
Btw, please Anachron, that dude is a pathetic troll. He's keeping a running update of my reps and linking people to my posts and begging them to neg me. How that maggot isn't banned for flagrant rule violation is beyond me. Just ignore him.
Have you considered working in academia on political science or political philosophy? Academia is still fairly sturdy stronghold for Marxist thought. You'd still be in your country, unless you moved overseas, but you'd be amongst some pretty intelligent like-minded thinkers.
Marxist ideals are still prevalent in sociology especially with all social justice stuff and the uprising of the LQBT community and wokeism etc. And plus, academia is mostly left leaning because it encourages critical thinking and dealing with a plurality of complex positions.
You could do some good work here.
Btw, please Anachron, that dude is a pathetic troll. He's keeping a running update of my reps and linking people to my posts and begging them to neg me. How that maggot isn't banned for flagrant rule violation is beyond me. Just ignore him.
06-14-2023, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
pretty sure it isn't allowed - there was a thread about that topic yesterdayInteresting how you can't come up with "tangible evidence" for your "farcical accusation" as bolded.

06-14-2023, 08:53 AM
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How long before we see wincel on the evening news going on a rampage in Portland. This idiot should be locked up but his father is truly ignorant of what a nutter his "son" is or does not care. This thing is a damn oxygen thief and should be in a group home at a minimum.
06-14-2023, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
look at Bodhy trying to pretend he is wincel's friend after he spent the last couple weeks cutting him down and insulting his intelligenceOP, are you Wincel? You can PM me if you don't want to admit it here.
Have you considered working in academia on political science or political philosophy? Academia is still fairly sturdy stronghold for Marxist thought. You'd still be in your country, unless you moved overseas, but you'd be amongst some pretty intelligent like-minded thinkers.
Marxist ideals are still prevalent in sociology especially with all social justice stuff and the uprising of the LQBT community and wokeism etc. And plus, academia is mostly left leaning because it encourages critical thinking and dealing with a plurality of complex positions.
You could do some good work here.
Btw, please Anachron, that dude is a pathetic troll. He's keeping a running update of my reps and linking people to my posts and begging them to neg me. How that maggot isn't banned for flagrant rule violation is beyond me. Just ignore him.
Have you considered working in academia on political science or political philosophy? Academia is still fairly sturdy stronghold for Marxist thought. You'd still be in your country, unless you moved overseas, but you'd be amongst some pretty intelligent like-minded thinkers.
Marxist ideals are still prevalent in sociology especially with all social justice stuff and the uprising of the LQBT community and wokeism etc. And plus, academia is mostly left leaning because it encourages critical thinking and dealing with a plurality of complex positions.
You could do some good work here.
Btw, please Anachron, that dude is a pathetic troll. He's keeping a running update of my reps and linking people to my posts and begging them to neg me. How that maggot isn't banned for flagrant rule violation is beyond me. Just ignore him.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
I did a spit take on this oneYang 2024.

06-14-2023, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscIQ⏩
Christ, it's a well known fact, pick up a history book Wincel......According to the CIA?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Are you really asking if it's Wincel??? Seriously, is this some sort of tribal mindset, where people like him get a pass for being pathetic, just because he has left leaning views???OP, are you Wincel? You can PM me if you don't want to admit it here.
Have you considered working in academia on political science or political philosophy? Academia is still fairly sturdy stronghold for Marxist thought. You'd still be in your country, unless you moved overseas, but you'd be amongst some pretty intelligent like-minded thinkers.
Marxist ideals are still prevalent in sociology especially with all social justice stuff and the uprising of the LQBT community and wokeism etc. And plus, academia is mostly left leaning because it encourages critical thinking and dealing with a plurality of complex positions.
You could do some good work here.
Btw, please Anachron, that dude is a pathetic troll. He's keeping a running update of my reps and linking people to my posts and begging them to neg me. How that maggot isn't banned for flagrant rule violation is beyond me. Just ignore him.
Have you considered working in academia on political science or political philosophy? Academia is still fairly sturdy stronghold for Marxist thought. You'd still be in your country, unless you moved overseas, but you'd be amongst some pretty intelligent like-minded thinkers.
Marxist ideals are still prevalent in sociology especially with all social justice stuff and the uprising of the LQBT community and wokeism etc. And plus, academia is mostly left leaning because it encourages critical thinking and dealing with a plurality of complex positions.
You could do some good work here.
Btw, please Anachron, that dude is a pathetic troll. He's keeping a running update of my reps and linking people to my posts and begging them to neg me. How that maggot isn't banned for flagrant rule violation is beyond me. Just ignore him.
06-14-2023, 10:04 AM
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06-14-2023, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By GNCPOV⏩
Excellent point. It's the bare minimum social support they can provide to prevent revolution. When people (mostly Americans) call the US "left", they basically mean left of hitler or total laissez faire capitalism. LOLThank you for acknowledging some of my points have merit even if you don't fully agree - it truly does show some ability to have your perspective altered which is rare and commendable.
To further the discussion, I would not characterize the mere existence of basic social safety nets like unemployment insurance, social security and medicaid/care as evidence of the US being on the left of the overton window. They are leftist in their essence, but it turns out such programs are a necessary concession given their impact on social stability. I'm not aware of any western country who does not have some type of social safety nets for this reason, despite them all being capitalist. Capitalists have even made peace with these basic programs because it is dangerous to have a labor force that's so on the edge that they consider organizing and creating unrest for the ruling class. Civil unrest is largely bad for business.
These programs also create demand to offset their cost, since it turns out that unemployed and old people spend their social security checks... on goods and services that capitalists own (GDP). People going to the hospital (whether covered by private or public insurance) generates profits, employs healthcare workers and generates need for medical supplies. Some companies take it even further and use these safety nets as an excuse to provide their workers with less than living wages and paltry benefits (looking at you Walmart). Finally, from a moral perspective, I prefer people to have some baseline assurance that they won't die in the streets from treatable illnesses or go hungry because they failed to find employment or can't work anymore. I don't want people to suffer needlessly because they have some disability or are merely a victim of a recession that capitalism inherently creates, completely out of their control.
That being said, I personally think that the abuses and "moochers" of such programs are relatively immaterial compared to the overall good they provide. Every system will have abusers and we should design ways to prevent them where feasible, but that fact alone should not be a reason to dismantle or scale them back.
To further the discussion, I would not characterize the mere existence of basic social safety nets like unemployment insurance, social security and medicaid/care as evidence of the US being on the left of the overton window. They are leftist in their essence, but it turns out such programs are a necessary concession given their impact on social stability. I'm not aware of any western country who does not have some type of social safety nets for this reason, despite them all being capitalist. Capitalists have even made peace with these basic programs because it is dangerous to have a labor force that's so on the edge that they consider organizing and creating unrest for the ruling class. Civil unrest is largely bad for business.
These programs also create demand to offset their cost, since it turns out that unemployed and old people spend their social security checks... on goods and services that capitalists own (GDP). People going to the hospital (whether covered by private or public insurance) generates profits, employs healthcare workers and generates need for medical supplies. Some companies take it even further and use these safety nets as an excuse to provide their workers with less than living wages and paltry benefits (looking at you Walmart). Finally, from a moral perspective, I prefer people to have some baseline assurance that they won't die in the streets from treatable illnesses or go hungry because they failed to find employment or can't work anymore. I don't want people to suffer needlessly because they have some disability or are merely a victim of a recession that capitalism inherently creates, completely out of their control.
That being said, I personally think that the abuses and "moochers" of such programs are relatively immaterial compared to the overall good they provide. Every system will have abusers and we should design ways to prevent them where feasible, but that fact alone should not be a reason to dismantle or scale them back.
06-14-2023, 03:35 PM
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No...there's no such thing as a "real communist"...most people who claim to be are pathetic posers who's lack of knowledge pertaining to that ideology can fill a book. They're all imbicils who take every opportunity to flourish in a Capitalist society and pretend they are somehow fighting the same system that awards them all the things they desire. It's the very definition of do as I say, not as I do. Not one of them....not one practices what they preach because deep down, they understand the flawed logic behind that pathetic ideology.
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