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Boron Deficiency: Heart Attacks + Hormones + Cognitive Function
06-18-2023, 06:53 AM
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Boron Deficiency: Heart Attacks + Hormones + Cognitive Function
Browsing comments on this article which seemed kind of "duh", but worth a look-

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Study on 5,446 post-menopausal women 63 years of age or older broken into groups based on genetic risk factors. Found that level of physical activity trumped genetics for longevity.
Came across this comment and reply:


Well okay then. I'm aware that a lack of some nutrients due to soil depletion is a problem. I did not know that boron was something worth paying that much attention to. It isn't an expensive supplement and seems like for some people it is worth bothering with.



Can proper supplementation of boron help with:
- arteriosclerosis/blockage of arteries and veins
- executive function
- hormone balance
- inflammation/arthritis
All good things to make improvements on and there are supplements for a nickle a day or less.
I hate dealing with managing a bunch of pills and don't like taking them either. But I've been sticking w/vit D + vit K + magnesium for some time. It's about $1 a day all in. Having a low vit D level = depression. Minimum healthy level I've seen most recently was 60. Used to be sub 20 and my last lab came in at 50.
Oh, and the screen shot above- tion: brilliant and also insane or super intelligent and educated troll.

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Study on 5,446 post-menopausal women 63 years of age or older broken into groups based on genetic risk factors. Found that level of physical activity trumped genetics for longevity.
Came across this comment and reply:


Well okay then. I'm aware that a lack of some nutrients due to soil depletion is a problem. I did not know that boron was something worth paying that much attention to. It isn't an expensive supplement and seems like for some people it is worth bothering with.



Can proper supplementation of boron help with:
- arteriosclerosis/blockage of arteries and veins
- executive function
- hormone balance
- inflammation/arthritis
All good things to make improvements on and there are supplements for a nickle a day or less.
I hate dealing with managing a bunch of pills and don't like taking them either. But I've been sticking w/vit D + vit K + magnesium for some time. It's about $1 a day all in. Having a low vit D level = depression. Minimum healthy level I've seen most recently was 60. Used to be sub 20 and my last lab came in at 50.
Oh, and the screen shot above- tion: brilliant and also insane or super intelligent and educated troll.
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A couple of tion posts just for fun-


Swear that if you could scrape her comments and make some sort of sense of her story you could write a heckuva a novel. Or at least create a great character for a William Gibson style sci-fi.


Swear that if you could scrape her comments and make some sort of sense of her story you could write a heckuva a novel. Or at least create a great character for a William Gibson style sci-fi.
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Real talk : Katya it is true, i never stopped lifting/cardio and survived a 310 blood pressure spike.
never ever use old banned supplements
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Did you snort Jack3d?Real talk : Katya it is true, i never stopped lifting/cardio and survived a 310 blood pressure spike.
never ever use old banned supplements
never ever use old banned supplements

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06-18-2023, 08:39 AM
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Good thing I supplement it then, I guess. One of the things I'm most religious about taking is Magnesium, which is probably far more important for that than Boron.
As far as calcification - that dunce who mentioned vitamin d forgot to mention Vitamin K2 MK7 (or he's ignorant). That's the important thing for shuttling calcium to the proper places.
As far as calcification - that dunce who mentioned vitamin d forgot to mention Vitamin K2 MK7 (or he's ignorant). That's the important thing for shuttling calcium to the proper places.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Old school Hydroxycut with Ephedra, no buenoDid you snort Jack3d?
Banned in 2004, but used oops
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that is why the government banned it for human consumption in the 60s.
it cures arthritis and osteoporosis (stops the calcification (hardening) of cysts in bone sockets that wear out the joints). it also helps against tooth decay and weakened bones later in life.
i ordered a kg a few years back from the US. take it every few days
also makes your wood hard like steel due to the improved blood circulation
it cures arthritis and osteoporosis (stops the calcification (hardening) of cysts in bone sockets that wear out the joints). it also helps against tooth decay and weakened bones later in life.
i ordered a kg a few years back from the US. take it every few days
also makes your wood hard like steel due to the improved blood circulation
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Imagine spending your time reading comments on article like this


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This guy been talking about stuff like this for ages. Underrates as hell probably because he isnt as professional like some jeff nippard.
Channel is actually a gold mine for health & natty bodybuilding
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What benefits have you found with taking vitamin K?
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Just read that peanuts are a great source. I eat about a pound a day, no wonder I'm such a high test animal
06-18-2023, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Not the same.Gonna increase my daily Borax intake thx OP

I do keep a box in the laundry room though.
Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Yes. I'm taking D w/K2 + magnesium. Though that is relatively recent. I did one of those heart calcium things a couple of years ago and was told everything looks great- like a younger person. So there is that.Good thing I supplement it then, I guess. One of the things I'm most religious about taking is Magnesium, which is probably far more important for that than Boron.
As far as calcification - that dunce who mentioned vitamin d forgot to mention Vitamin K2 MK7 (or he's ignorant). That's the important thing for shuttling calcium to the proper places.
As far as calcification - that dunce who mentioned vitamin d forgot to mention Vitamin K2 MK7 (or he's ignorant). That's the important thing for shuttling calcium to the proper places.
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I've heard this. Where do you get it?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4712861/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4712861/
After only 1 week of boron supplementation of 6 mg/d, a further study by Naghii et al20 of healthy males (n = 8) found (1) a significant increase in free testosterone, which rose from an average of 11.83 pg/mL to 15.18 pg/mL; and (2) significant decreases in E2, which dropped from 42.33 pg/mL to 25.81 pg/mL. All of the inflammatory biomarkers that were measured also decreased: (1) interleukin (IL) 6, from 1.55 pg/mL to 0.87 pg/mL; (2) high-sensitivity C-reactive protein (hs-CRP) by approximately 50%, a remarkable decrease, from 1460 ng/mL to 795 ng/mL; and (3) tumor necrosis factor α (TNF-α) by approximately 30%, from 12.32 to 9.97 pg/mL. Levels of dihydrotestosterone, cortisol, and vitamin D increased slightly.
Human requirements for boron remain undefined. The only guideline is a tolerable UL, which for adults aged 18 years or older is approximately 20 mg/d.132 The current author hopes that increasing knowledge about boron’s diverse biological functions will promote recognition of the importance of specifying what constitutes adequate, and, even possibly, a consideration of what might be optimal boron intake. Although it has been suggested that humans need at least 0.2 mg/d of boron and that the diet should contain approximately 1 to 2 mg/d of boron, numerous papers indicate that the standard American diet does not do so, and boron’s beneficial effects on bone,133 sex steroids,20 and vitamin D26 do not appear at boron intakes of less than 3 mg/d. All the human studies showing beneficial effects for boron supplementation discussed in this review used supplemental boron at a dose of greater than or equal to 3 mg/d. Studies of residents in boron-rich areas of the world indicated that 3 mg/d is a conservative amount that would produce benefits with a very remote risk of adverse effects. For example, in Turkey, daily boron intake for workers in a boric acid production plant averaged 12.6 mg/d, with no adverse effects.134,135
Looks like fruit, nuts, and beans have a lot.
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
Really? Is that a UK/EU thing?that is why the government banned it for human consumption in the 60s.
it cures arthritis and osteoporosis (stops the calcification (hardening) of cysts in bone sockets that wear out the joints). it also helps against tooth decay and weakened bones later in life.
i ordered a kg a few years back from the US. take it every few days
also makes your wood hard like steel due to the improved blood circulation
it cures arthritis and osteoporosis (stops the calcification (hardening) of cysts in bone sockets that wear out the joints). it also helps against tooth decay and weakened bones later in life.
i ordered a kg a few years back from the US. take it every few days
also makes your wood hard like steel due to the improved blood circulation
Originally Posted By plebmaximus⏩
You're on misc you know.Imagine spending your time reading comments on article like this



Originally Posted By piramparam⏩
This guy been talking about stuff like this for ages. Underrates as hell probably because he isnt as professional like some jeff nippard.
Channel is actually a gold mine for health & natty bodybuilding
Cool.This guy been talking about stuff like this for ages. Underrates as hell probably because he isnt as professional like some jeff nippard.
Channel is actually a gold mine for health & natty bodybuilding
And on comments- sometimes you find neat things. There was another person who said they are managing their MS w/a non mainstream program.

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Best part of Zerohedge...comment section full of a broad cast of characters who generally don't just take the usual narrative at face value.
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Originally Posted By RollTideBrah⏩
for me its snorting asbestos. i am nearly fireproof now

Originally Posted By DASBUNKER⏩
Some natural test booster include Boron now, wasnt aware of the benefits.
Most of natty test boosters are trash but a few got decent proven ingredients that at least should provide a mild boost.
Most of natty test boosters are trash but a few got decent proven ingredients that at least should provide a mild boost.

Originally Posted By Narrator02⏩
Besides the vit D calcium thing it is supposed to help with skin elasticity and bruising. Maybe I've got fewer bruises? Hard to quantify.What benefits have you found with taking vitamin K?
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06-18-2023, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
Just read that peanuts are a great source. I eat about a pound a day, no wonder I'm such a high test animal

Originally Posted By DomMJr⏩
One link I hit showed the best source as prune juice. No thanks.I've heard this. Where do you get it?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4712861/
Looks like fruit, nuts, and beans have a lot.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4712861/
Looks like fruit, nuts, and beans have a lot.
There are several options on Amazon. Probably other supplement places too.
But maybe not in the UK/EU? Not sure on that.
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Just eat raisins. I eat them specifically for boron. Srs
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Originally Posted By DASBUNKER⏩
Cool. I was wondering if it mattered.I'd recommend NOW or Swanson with Albion Bororganic Glycine, over boron citrate
Originally Posted By wigwogzigzog⏩
Not a big fan, but definitely easy to find for most people.Just eat raisins. I eat them specifically for boron. Srs
Just watched the video. Impressive looking study. Saw real changes in lab levels with only 7 days of supplementation.

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hsCRP is an inflammation marker which he pointed out specifically.
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you phgg0ts act like it's so hard to get a hair mineral test to test your boron. No reason you should be guessing with your supplements in this day and age
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
I prefer patented or trademarked ingredients just for slightly more quality assurance, might not make a big difference in the end results if using legit ingredients.Cool. I was wondering if it mattered.
hsCRP is an inflammation marker which he pointed out specifically.
hsCRP is an inflammation marker which he pointed out specifically.
I have a lot of inflammation issues so could be worth a shot for me, it isn't too expensive anyway.
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Originally Posted By piramparam⏩
This guy been talking about stuff like this for ages. Underrates as hell probably because he isnt as professional like some jeff nippard.
Channel is actually a gold mine for health & natty bodybuilding
lol @ his misc memeThis guy been talking about stuff like this for ages. Underrates as hell probably because he isnt as professional like some jeff nippard.
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Lol at low boroncels
Probably rampant in the incel and lgbt communities
Probably rampant in the incel and lgbt communities
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