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"We do not support Taiwan independence." - Anthony Blinken
06-19-2023, 10:24 AM
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Do you know how butt phucked the US would get in a war with China on their turf? Supporting Taiwanese independence would just antagonize China and motivate them to take Taiwan. Time to realize the US doesn't call all the shots
06-19-2023, 10:27 AM
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The humiliation of NATO is complete
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06-19-2023, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Muscle2021⏩
\Anyone surprised this vatnik doesn't know Taiwan has nothing to do with NATO? Do you think he knows Taiwan is in the Pacific Ocean?The humiliation of NATO is complete
06-19-2023, 10:59 AM
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Oh boy.
Get ready for the "America First" brigade who wants us to not get involved in anything...to come in here and call Biden weak for not getting involved.
Get ready for the "America First" brigade who wants us to not get involved in anything...to come in here and call Biden weak for not getting involved.

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06-19-2023, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Kane_89⏩
Begrudgingly I'd say for the short term it makes sense to say the Biden regime doesn't support Taiwan independence. Let the next President be the one to piss off China, as most of the world supports Taiwan independence.Oh boy.
Get ready for the "America First" brigade who wants us to not get involved in anything...to come in here and call Biden weak for not getting involved.
Get ready for the "America First" brigade who wants us to not get involved in anything...to come in here and call Biden weak for not getting involved.

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06-19-2023, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Kane_89⏩
Weird to see the guy totally down with spending money to get Ukie retards killed saying this. But we know you guys don't have any standards.Oh boy.
Get ready for the "America First" brigade who wants us to not get involved in anything...to come in here and call Biden weak for not getting involved.
Get ready for the "America First" brigade who wants us to not get involved in anything...to come in here and call Biden weak for not getting involved.

06-19-2023, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
Right on cue.Weird to see the guy totally down with spending money to get Ukie retards killed saying this. But we know you guys don't have any standards.
Fatboy just couldn't resist

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06-19-2023, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
I'm pretty sure most of the world does not support Taiwan independence.Begrudgingly I'd say for the short term it makes sense to say the Biden regime doesn't support Taiwan independence. Let the next President be the one to piss off China, as most of the world supports Taiwan independence.
06-19-2023, 11:50 AM
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itt we think Taiwan is currently considered independent by the international community and that this is somehow a change and not a reiteration of existing policy as seen by literally the entire civilized world.
06-19-2023, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
How does supporting Taiwan independence work? Like you just say empty words, "we support Taiwan independence" or you're actually going to get involved military if China moves on Taiwan?Begrudgingly I'd say for the short term it makes sense to say the Biden regime doesn't support Taiwan independence. Let the next President be the one to piss off China, as most of the world supports Taiwan independence.
06-19-2023, 12:29 PM
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He has to say this. Remember what happened to Lebron James?
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What'd Taiwan ever do to us? srs
Superman or no Superman, fukking Biden would have kneeled for Zod the second they set foot on the moon.
Superman or no Superman, fukking Biden would have kneeled for Zod the second they set foot on the moon.
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06-19-2023, 01:23 PM
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Wow, you can actually see that no lube was used.

Interesting how Taiwan, key producer of the technology that keeps us in the modern age, is less important to the administration than Ukraine, a glorified farm.
Interesting how Taiwan, key producer of the technology that keeps us in the modern age, is less important to the administration than Ukraine, a glorified farm.
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Originally Posted By nkiritsis13⏩
what does this statement change/what should he have said?Wow, you can actually see that no lube was used.
Interesting how Taiwan, key producer of the technology that keeps us in the modern age, is less important to the administration than Ukraine, a glorified farm.
Interesting how Taiwan, key producer of the technology that keeps us in the modern age, is less important to the administration than Ukraine, a glorified farm.
06-19-2023, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By nkiritsis13⏩
Are you prepared to go fight in Taiwan or your just an American who likes to talk but not back it up?Wow, you can actually see that no lube was used.

Interesting how Taiwan, key producer of the technology that keeps us in the modern age, is less important to the administration than Ukraine, a glorified farm.
Interesting how Taiwan, key producer of the technology that keeps us in the modern age, is less important to the administration than Ukraine, a glorified farm.
Taiwan is functionally independent right now. There is no reason to antagonize China over meaningless words and platitudes.
06-19-2023, 03:05 PM
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United States as well as other 192 member states of the UN have never been supporting Taiwan independence, as it would be a precedent of legalized separatism.
Half of NATO states also have separatism problems, i.e United Kingdom, Spain, Greece, France.
As well as Ukraine which the west supports in Ukraine's war against Donbass separatism. But bodybuilders aren't brain builders I guess.
Half of NATO states also have separatism problems, i.e United Kingdom, Spain, Greece, France.
As well as Ukraine which the west supports in Ukraine's war against Donbass separatism. But bodybuilders aren't brain builders I guess.
06-19-2023, 03:27 PM
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06-19-2023, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
We need their chips. I doubt we will give up on them. Also, a concession now while the Ukraine crisis is going would make us look really chitty to allies.With regards to Taiwan, the main concerns are whether they would attack US forces in the event of an actual invasion, and then, what would China do next? When you give way to military imperialism, it just keeps happening (see: US).
It's not beneath the Establishment to give up Taiwan for some sort of gain, this isn't the same government from decades ago. Taiwan is just a bargaining chip and China is no longer a pariah, but an instrumental part of the NWO's plan forward.
It's not beneath the Establishment to give up Taiwan for some sort of gain, this isn't the same government from decades ago. Taiwan is just a bargaining chip and China is no longer a pariah, but an instrumental part of the NWO's plan forward.
China shouldn't be a pariah.
06-19-2023, 04:28 PM
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Good. A China Taiwan civil War is none of our business.
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06-19-2023, 04:46 PM
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The greatest country on earth is China
06-19-2023, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Nobody wants the US to fall tho. China is also heavily invested in and reliant on the US. It isn't zero sum. The entire world will be plunged into abject poverty if our economy collapses. Millions will starve, and not in the US.We're going to be making our own potato chips soon, even if it's going to cost more.
US foreign policy has been toxic for a long time. We lost our moral authority after 9/11 and sunk trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives into destabilizing the Middle East, only for China to come in and make business deals with everyone in the Blinken of an eye. Everyone wins but us.
So much for securing our oil hegemony.
Ukraine was stupid to get involved with, and so is Taiwan. If we ever get any competent leadership back in our government, we need to pull back, rebuild, and re-project strength when able. Special and outside interests are whittling our country down to bare bones. You thought Soros made it out big when he shorted the British pound? Think about how many wealthy parties are banking on the fall of the United States (they're even actively contributing to it). US business leaders like Musk and Gates rush to China to say "Hey, we're still here with you!! Let's make some MONEY!!!".
US foreign policy has been toxic for a long time. We lost our moral authority after 9/11 and sunk trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives into destabilizing the Middle East, only for China to come in and make business deals with everyone in the Blinken of an eye. Everyone wins but us.
So much for securing our oil hegemony.
Ukraine was stupid to get involved with, and so is Taiwan. If we ever get any competent leadership back in our government, we need to pull back, rebuild, and re-project strength when able. Special and outside interests are whittling our country down to bare bones. You thought Soros made it out big when he shorted the British pound? Think about how many wealthy parties are banking on the fall of the United States (they're even actively contributing to it). US business leaders like Musk and Gates rush to China to say "Hey, we're still here with you!! Let's make some MONEY!!!".
We just need to stop being dicks. That's literally all.
06-19-2023, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
And what is wrong with China investing in other countries rather than bombing them? China is doing EVs too broseph. You act like climate change isn't real. Every economy has to adjust to it, including China.Have you seen how the world has been trending the last twenty years?
Do you see where it's headed?
Do you know how much China has invested in countries that supply oil without needing to invade?
Do you see the West pushing for all-electric vehicles when their energy grids can't support it?
Do you see the West pushing to curb as much manufacturing and industrial production as possible in the name of being "environmentally conscious"?
China is starting to hold all of the keys. Globalists love China, even if China steals all of their IP and cuts off market access to them.
Do you see where it's headed?
Do you know how much China has invested in countries that supply oil without needing to invade?
Do you see the West pushing for all-electric vehicles when their energy grids can't support it?
Do you see the West pushing to curb as much manufacturing and industrial production as possible in the name of being "environmentally conscious"?
China is starting to hold all of the keys. Globalists love China, even if China steals all of their IP and cuts off market access to them.
You take it as an axiom that China is some evil country. I just don't get it.
If we want ppl to work with us, we should be more diplomatic and actively try to help the world. We irresponsibly bombed and ruined other countries. We should not cry when they run to China's arms.
06-19-2023, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
It is not seeking hegemony. Historical precedent is set in imperialism and a prenuclear world, largely dominated by Angloids. China will demonstrate a new theory of International Relations based on multipolarity and a strong UN.And you think China will defy historical precedent and human nature by becoming a benevolent power in its conquest for hegemony?
Do you remember China during COVID-19?
Do you remember China during COVID-19?
I do. They did an excellent job.
China has made zero effort to export its political system or impose any changes on the ways of life of other countries, unlike the Angloids/Amerikunts.
If we just zoom out, the last 3 decades have been a disaster. America has abused its power. It is time for some new voices to be heard. America's vision for the world as a capitalist dystopia where 4% of the population uses 1/4 of the stuff, and where there is a special class of a billion or so thriving while everyone else licks their boots is a fail model. It's time for a different model and a change of scenery.
06-19-2023, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Kane_89⏩
How can you be America First and not get involved with the rest of the world?Oh boy.
Get ready for the "America First" brigade who wants us to not get involved in anything...to come in here and call Biden weak for not getting involved.
Get ready for the "America First" brigade who wants us to not get involved in anything...to come in here and call Biden weak for not getting involved.

Protecting Taiwan is in America's interest as China is it's biggest threat.
Ukraine would be an example of America Last, there is no gain.
There is plenty of loss there though, in Ukraine, in America.
With resources lost it's hard to defend where it matters.
That lack of defense... that loss is China's gain.
Oh boy indeed.
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06-19-2023, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
And where in all of that does their rapidly modernizing military and exponentially increasing nuclear arsenal fit in? "Peace keeping"?
Xi has not increased his military spending as a percent of GDP. Their military growth is proportional to their economic growth. It is for deterrence. Where does ours fit in? What the hell have we been doing? They'd love to spend less if we would spend less, but we refuse to ever cut that. So why should they trust us? Oh we mean so well right? When our senior politicians vow to destroy their economy, and our generals muse about nuclear strikes on China? Yea but we are the good guys right?
And where in all of that does their rapidly modernizing military and exponentially increasing nuclear arsenal fit in? "Peace keeping"?
We are the ones provoking conflict. China has sent many signals of reluctance to fight. They will fight if they must and be ready, but they do not want a war with America. God, why would anyone want a war with us? Even NK just wants us to let them develop and trade and grow. There is pretty much zero intention to attack us since the retaliation would be devastating. People are just desperate and sick of being under the boot.
We could solve a lot of these issues, develop a ton of goodwill, and promote global security. But instead, we continue to bully and make trouble everywhere.
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