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"Communists: Trendy GOP insult is laced with bigotry"
Trump and other Republicans conjure a familiar enemy in attacking Democrats as ‘communists’
NEW YORK (AP) — Lashing out after his arraignment on federal charges last week, Donald Trump took aim at President Joe Biden and Democrats with language that seemed to evoke another era: He was being persecuted, he said, by “Marxists” and “communists.”
Trump has used the labels since he first appeared on the political scene, but it lately has become an omnipresent attack line that also has been deployed by other Republicans. The rhetoric is both inaccurate and potentially dangerous because it attempts to demonize an entire party with a description that has long been associated with America's enemies.
Experts who study political messaging say associating Democrats with Marxism only furthers the country's polarization — and is simply wrong: Biden has promoted capitalism and Democratic lawmakers are not pushing to reshape American democracy into a communist system.
That hasn't mattered to Trump and other Republicans, who for years have used hyperbolic references to the associated political ideologies to spark fears about Democrats and the dangers they supposedly pose.
Hours after pleading not guilty in federal court, Trump told a crowd of his supporters at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, that Biden, “together with a band of his closest thugs, misfits and Marxists, tried to destroy American democracy.”
He added, “If the communists get away with this, it won’t stop with me.”
He again hit on the Marxist theme days later during a telephone rally with Iowa voters. The comments came after numerous campaign emails and social posts in recent months in which Trump has claimed that Biden’s America could soon become a “third world Marxist regime” or a “tyrannical Marxist nation.”
Other Republicans have piled on with similar messaging. Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene last week took to Twitter to lambast what she called the “CORRUPT AND WEAPONIZED COMMUNISTS DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED DOJ.” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Trump's closest rival for the GOP presidential nomination, has argued the U.S. risks falling victim to “woke” ideology, which he has defined in interviews as a form of “cultural Marxism.”
Experts say there is a long history of U.S. politicians calling opponents Marxist or communist without evidence — perhaps most infamously Sen. Joseph McCarthy, who led efforts to blacklist accused communists in the 1950s.
In a country that has historically positioned itself against Marxism, “red-baiting is as American as apple pie in political communications,” said Tanner Mirrlees, an associate professor at Ontario Tech University in Canada who has researched political discourse about “cultural Marxism.”
The attacks are carefully constructed to hit voters emotionally, said Steve Israel, a former U.S. congressman from New York who studied political messaging as chair of the House Democratic Policy and Communications Committee.
“Democrats tend to message to the part of the brain that is about reason and empirical evidence,” he said. “Republicans message to the gut.”
For some Hispanic Trump supporters who gathered outside the federal courthouse in Miami where the former president was arraigned, the charges evoked memories of political persecutions their family members had once escaped.
“This is what they do in Latin America,” said Madelin Munilla, 67, who came to Miami as a child when her parents fled Fidel Castro's Cuba.
She carried a poster with a photo of Biden alongside Castro, Venezuela’s Nicolas Maduro and Nicaragua’s Daniel Ortega — leftist leaders whose jailing of opponents has driven immigration to south Florida for decades.
Unlike the U.S., which has a tradition of respect for the rule of law and constitutional separation of powers, the judiciary in many parts of Latin America lacks the same independence. In a region where corruption flourishes, poorly paid prosecutors and judges are routinely caught doing the bidding of powerful politicians seeking to settle scores or derail criminal investigations.
A surge in immigration from Southeast Asia after the Vietnam War also brought a population of staunchly anti-communist voters, some of whom have aligned with the Republican Party in part because of its forceful messaging on the issue.
Yet opposing an actual regime that suppresses individual freedom and opposes a free market economy is different from the way many Republicans use these terms now —- to falsely claim Marxists are U.S. society's ruling class.
“Bluntly, there is no empirical ground beneath the Republican claim that Marxists rule the big institutions of American society,” Mirrlees said.
Other Republicans, from DeSantis to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, have used another term, “cultural Marxism,” to characterize fights for gender or racial equity that they argue are “woke” and threaten a traditional American way of life. Cruz used it in the title of his book.
Though the term has become popular among mainstream Republicans, it has a darker past. Experts say the concept of “cultural Marxism” posing a threat was historically spread by antisemitic and white supremacist groups.
For most voters who hear candidates say someone is communist or Marxist, the true meaning may matter less than the negative associations with the terms, said James Gardner, a University at Buffalo law professor who focuses on election law.
“The tactic seems to be to pick an adjective that most people think describes something bad and try to associate it with the person you are denigrating,” he said.
Still, while railing against communists and Marxists may be effective at animating voters who form the Republican base, it may not be an effective strategy in next year's general election, Israel said.
That's because it doesn't as easily sway moderate and independent voters who don't see evidence that ties Democrats to those ideologies.
“Moderate voters may succumb to the Republican argument that Democrats are for more spending, but they’re not going to fall for the argument that Democrats are Marxists,” Israel said. “The Republicans are overplaying their hand.”
NEW YORK (AP) — Lashing out after his arraignment on federal charges last week, Donald Trump took aim at President Joe Biden and Democrats with language that seemed to evoke another era: He was being persecuted, he said, by “Marxists” and “communists.”
Trump has used the labels since he first appeared on the political scene, but it lately has become an omnipresent attack line that also has been deployed by other Republicans. The rhetoric is both inaccurate and potentially dangerous because it attempts to demonize an entire party with a description that has long been associated with America's enemies.
Experts who study political messaging say associating Democrats with Marxism only furthers the country's polarization — and is simply wrong: Biden has promoted capitalism and Democratic lawmakers are not pushing to reshape American democracy into a communist system.
That hasn't mattered to Trump and other Republicans, who for years have used hyperbolic references to the associated political ideologies to spark fears about Democrats and the dangers they supposedly pose.
Hours after pleading not guilty in federal court, Trump told a crowd of his supporters at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, that Biden, “together with a band of his closest thugs, misfits and Marxists, tried to destroy American democracy.”
He added, “If the communists get away with this, it won’t stop with me.”
He again hit on the Marxist theme days later during a telephone rally with Iowa voters. The comments came after numerous campaign emails and social posts in recent months in which Trump has claimed that Biden’s America could soon become a “third world Marxist regime” or a “tyrannical Marxist nation.”
Other Republicans have piled on with similar messaging. Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene last week took to Twitter to lambast what she called the “CORRUPT AND WEAPONIZED COMMUNISTS DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED DOJ.” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Trump's closest rival for the GOP presidential nomination, has argued the U.S. risks falling victim to “woke” ideology, which he has defined in interviews as a form of “cultural Marxism.”
Experts say there is a long history of U.S. politicians calling opponents Marxist or communist without evidence — perhaps most infamously Sen. Joseph McCarthy, who led efforts to blacklist accused communists in the 1950s.
In a country that has historically positioned itself against Marxism, “red-baiting is as American as apple pie in political communications,” said Tanner Mirrlees, an associate professor at Ontario Tech University in Canada who has researched political discourse about “cultural Marxism.”
The attacks are carefully constructed to hit voters emotionally, said Steve Israel, a former U.S. congressman from New York who studied political messaging as chair of the House Democratic Policy and Communications Committee.
“Democrats tend to message to the part of the brain that is about reason and empirical evidence,” he said. “Republicans message to the gut.”
For some Hispanic Trump supporters who gathered outside the federal courthouse in Miami where the former president was arraigned, the charges evoked memories of political persecutions their family members had once escaped.
“This is what they do in Latin America,” said Madelin Munilla, 67, who came to Miami as a child when her parents fled Fidel Castro's Cuba.
She carried a poster with a photo of Biden alongside Castro, Venezuela’s Nicolas Maduro and Nicaragua’s Daniel Ortega — leftist leaders whose jailing of opponents has driven immigration to south Florida for decades.
Unlike the U.S., which has a tradition of respect for the rule of law and constitutional separation of powers, the judiciary in many parts of Latin America lacks the same independence. In a region where corruption flourishes, poorly paid prosecutors and judges are routinely caught doing the bidding of powerful politicians seeking to settle scores or derail criminal investigations.
A surge in immigration from Southeast Asia after the Vietnam War also brought a population of staunchly anti-communist voters, some of whom have aligned with the Republican Party in part because of its forceful messaging on the issue.
Yet opposing an actual regime that suppresses individual freedom and opposes a free market economy is different from the way many Republicans use these terms now —- to falsely claim Marxists are U.S. society's ruling class.
“Bluntly, there is no empirical ground beneath the Republican claim that Marxists rule the big institutions of American society,” Mirrlees said.
Other Republicans, from DeSantis to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, have used another term, “cultural Marxism,” to characterize fights for gender or racial equity that they argue are “woke” and threaten a traditional American way of life. Cruz used it in the title of his book.
Though the term has become popular among mainstream Republicans, it has a darker past. Experts say the concept of “cultural Marxism” posing a threat was historically spread by antisemitic and white supremacist groups.
For most voters who hear candidates say someone is communist or Marxist, the true meaning may matter less than the negative associations with the terms, said James Gardner, a University at Buffalo law professor who focuses on election law.
“The tactic seems to be to pick an adjective that most people think describes something bad and try to associate it with the person you are denigrating,” he said.
Still, while railing against communists and Marxists may be effective at animating voters who form the Republican base, it may not be an effective strategy in next year's general election, Israel said.
That's because it doesn't as easily sway moderate and independent voters who don't see evidence that ties Democrats to those ideologies.
“Moderate voters may succumb to the Republican argument that Democrats are for more spending, but they’re not going to fall for the argument that Democrats are Marxists,” Israel said. “The Republicans are overplaying their hand.”
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I hate COMMUNISTS.
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the right just parodies everything the left does. for a while the right (correctly) mocked the social justice warrior bs...then decided they wanted to play too and the identity of the party now primarily revolves around social issues. the right gets called fascist/racist for supporting Trump...well now everyone they don't like are groomers and communists. it's just an easy chit bomb for one idiot to lob at another idiot.
06-19-2023, 03:20 PM
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As if communist is an insult lmao.
It's insulting to commies to associate them with the democrats. The democrats are a neoliberal party with a neocon foreign policy.
Don't worry. We hate both parties and think you are both retarded (but the rethuglicans are generally more retarded).
It's insulting to commies to associate them with the democrats. The democrats are a neoliberal party with a neocon foreign policy.
Don't worry. We hate both parties and think you are both retarded (but the rethuglicans are generally more retarded).
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Originally Posted By baroni01⏩
We really do. Now that we know McCarthy was about 99% accurate with who he found to be communists working for the Kremlin and the whole red red scare propaganda put out by pro commie media, it's time to go full Pinochet on these cockroaches.We need another red scare!
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06-19-2023, 03:45 PM
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The Dems are huge corporate capitalists so it's just retarded more than anything but then the right aren't exactly known for their intelligence
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There's an appropriate time to call the Left out as marxists but the prosecution of Trump isn't it. More like we're a banana republic with the DOJ prosecuting the main rival of the sitting President, who is an empty vessel that talks about how he'll "get in a lot of trouble" (with the people actually in charge) if he talks too much.
"God save the queen, man."
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Disclaimer: Trump is my 3rd or 4th choice, so I'm not a MAGA bro, but I'm also not retarded like the sheep.
"God save the queen, man."
"End of quote. Repeat the line."
Disclaimer: Trump is my 3rd or 4th choice, so I'm not a MAGA bro, but I'm also not retarded like the sheep.
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best communist is a dead one.
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
best communist is a dead one.

“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
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I will say this for you cucks, Pinochet was arguably the most successful fascist leader. He adopted a neoliberal economic policy and did not resort to warmongering, basically enriching himself (something the CIA retards love to accuse left wing dictators of doing) as an American shill.
That said, Chile has tranformed, inevitably, as all systems must, toward trying to reduce its inequality and promote the social welfare of its citizens.
All roads lead to the same end, kids. The right may seek to dominate it, but the left will come out in droves and revolt if chit doesn't improve. It always ends the same way.
That said, Chile has tranformed, inevitably, as all systems must, toward trying to reduce its inequality and promote the social welfare of its citizens.
All roads lead to the same end, kids. The right may seek to dominate it, but the left will come out in droves and revolt if chit doesn't improve. It always ends the same way.
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look forward to pinochet coming to power here.
all commies gotta go.
all commies gotta go.
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
lmao good luck with thatlook forward to pinochet coming to power here.
all commies gotta go.
all commies gotta go.
this place is primed for a communist revolution
right wing neoliberal policies are the least popular they have been
not even the mainstream republican leader is talking aboit slashing benefits
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Strictly economically speaking we live in a neo-fascist country. The marriage between corporations and government. The bigger the government gets, the bigger mega corporations get. Not nearly as much as China, since they additionally have the autocratic tyranny thing still cranked up to 9/10 (only 10/10 being full communist North Korea which is a welfare queen of China), disappear people who speak up too much and have concentration camps. Our federal govt is the cause for high college tuition. And 75% of the revenue our TV news media receives is from big pharma.lmao good luck with that
this place is primed for a communist revolution
right wing neoliberal policies are the least popular they have been
not even the mainstream republican leader is talking aboit slashing benefits
this place is primed for a communist revolution
right wing neoliberal policies are the least popular they have been
not even the mainstream republican leader is talking aboit slashing benefits
I think we need another hippie movement. Especially young Americans should be doing mushrooms too. Not only would it expand their minds and make them want to fight against the matrix, it would help cure a lot of their depression.
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Yeah, Chile transformed into a top 30 economic country because of capitalism. Stop pretending to be a communist. I know it is your shtick,but in real life you are 80% bernie sanders,20% ron paulI will say this for you cucks, Pinochet was arguably the most successful fascist leader. He adopted a neoliberal economic policy and did not resort to warmongering, basically enriching himself (something the CIA retards love to accuse left wing dictators of doing) as an American shill.
That said, Chile has tranformed, inevitably, as all systems must, toward trying to reduce its inequality and promote the social welfare of its citizens.
All roads lead to the same end, kids. The right may seek to dominate it, but the left will come out in droves and revolt if chit doesn't improve. It always ends the same way.
That said, Chile has tranformed, inevitably, as all systems must, toward trying to reduce its inequality and promote the social welfare of its citizens.
All roads lead to the same end, kids. The right may seek to dominate it, but the left will come out in droves and revolt if chit doesn't improve. It always ends the same way.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Obviously not the same, but Occupy Wall St shook our Govt/Wall St so much that, with the help of corporate media, they soon invented the white supremacy, etc narrative to counter it, which was a brilliant strategy.Strictly economically speaking we live in a neo-fascist country. The marriage between corporations and government. The bigger the government gets, the bigger mega corporations get. Not nearly as much as China, since they additionally have the autocratic tyranny thing still cranked up to 9/10 (only 10/10 being full communist North Korea which is a welfare queen of China), disappear people who speak up too much and have concentration camps. Our federal govt is the cause for high college tuition. And 75% of the revenue our TV news media receives is from big pharma.
I think we need another hippie movement.Especially young Americans should be doing mushrooms too. Not only would it expand their minds and make them want to fight against the matrix, it would help cure a lot of their depression.
I think we need another hippie movement.Especially young Americans should be doing mushrooms too. Not only would it expand their minds and make them want to fight against the matrix, it would help cure a lot of their depression.
The timeline between when outlets like the NYT starting to push the white supremacy narrative directly correlates with the growing popularity of Occupy Wall St, as that movement/message had the power to bring people together from different political camps.
The global elite couldn't have that...so hence the new boogyman to keep the plebs at each other's throats.
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