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post 1684945323 06-20-2023, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
The leading cause of death for under-50 in the USA is drug overdose.

Maybe stop shilling for big pharma?

retard.
Huh? I didn't say anything about "big Pharma" or drug overdoses. I cited excess death statistics which disprove earlier claims.
post 1684945563 06-20-2023, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
I didn't say anything about cause of death. I repeated YOUR words:Excess deaths. Which clearly started in early 2020:



Then by 2022 they were down significantly - another disproof of your ridiculous claim that rampant excess deaths continue.
1.) that chart is total deaths and not deaths per 100 k, correct? So it doesn’t account for population changes.

2.) what constitutes “significantly” to you, and are you saying they are down from 2021 or down from pre Covid? Because of course it would make sense they would be lower than 2020 and perhaps 2021, but falling a little below the high seen in those two years is not what you’d expect. You’d expect them to fall below pre pandemic rates for reasons I’ve already stated in this thread. If they’re only a little below the highs that’s like gas going from <2$ gallon when Trump was president, then surging to $4.40/gallon, and then when it goes to $3.80 gallon having people talk about how they’ve reduced the price of gas significantly.



Edit to add link showing excess mortality rate was still elevated in many parts of the world in 2022

https://healthfeedback.org/what-can-...urope-in-2022/
post 1684946023 06-20-2023, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
1.) that chart is total deaths and not deaths per 100 k, correct? So it doesn’t account for population changes.
Total deaths. Which you can see steadily increase each year when Covid mortality is removed. Population change certainly doesn't change the massive increase in 2020 - nearly a year before vaccines had widespread availability. I do need to update this with 2023 numbers.
2.) what constitutes “significantly” to you, and are you saying they are down from 2021 or down from pre Covid? Because of course it would make sense they would be lower than 2020 and perhaps 2021, but falling a little below the high seen in those two years is not what you’d expect.
A visible jump above baseline is "significant". The point was to disprove the lie that excess deaths didn't begin until 2021 with vaccines - they started with Covid in 2020.
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you have to be a retard if you are still defending the jab

when the drug companies themselves have come out on video saying it didn't work and they knew it didn't work - but the governments via WEF had to be seen doing something

let alone Pfizer buying companies that make equipment to deal with heart problems - that their jabs give myocarditis - a whole new generation of customers
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post 1684946113 06-20-2023, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
Total deaths. Which you can see steadily increase each year when Covid mortality is removed. Population change certainly doesn't change the massive increase in 2020 - nearly a year before vaccines had widespread availability. I do need to update this with 2023 numbers.


A visible jump above baseline is "significant". The point was to disprove the lie that excess deaths didn't begin until 2021 with vaccines - they started with Covid in 2020.
Ok gotcha. It’s obvious that Covid caused an increase in excess mortality rates so no argument from me there. But the rate remains elevated when in fact it should be below baseline due to the surge in excess in years prior.
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post 1684946223 06-20-2023, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted By AWillis
you have to be a retard if you are still defending the jab
What about those who look at a death with ZERO connection to "the jab", and instantly proclaim "it's the jab!"...?
post 1684946303 06-20-2023, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
What about those who look at a death with ZERO connection to "the jab", and instantly proclaim "it's the jab!"...?
nutsy still licking pfizer's nuts like his life depends on it.
post 1684947363 06-20-2023, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted By AWillis
you have to be a retard if you are still defending the jab

when the drug companies themselves have come out on video saying it didn't work and they knew it didn't work - but the governments via WEF had to be seen doing something

let alone Pfizer buying companies that make equipment to deal with heart problems - that their jabs give myocarditis - a whole new generation of customers
Defending the jab is one thing, but people shouting it was the jab whenever anybody has a heart attack & dies is totally retarded though. Had this mutliple times over here & as I always say wait for the autopsy/toxicology/medical history-the young rap DJ guy here who had some honour from the Queen that died last year & his mum etc said he was a good lad who never took anything was proclaimed a death/murder via jab by the social media brigade & it turned out he had simply taken a load of drugs & overdosed.

https://news.sky.com/story/jamal-edw...ludes-12664142
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dude he was 400 lbs and drank codeine for years... shocking. Could have been the jab, but most obese black men have high (undiagnosed) blood pressure, along with high tri's, cholesterol, etc.
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post 1684947693 06-20-2023, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
What about those who look at a death with ZERO connection to "the jab", and instantly proclaim "it's the jab!"...?
if it is young people randomly dying then yeah - it's the jab

i know of 5 people through 1st connections of people dying in the last year "suddenly" and 2 more had strokes.

guess how many people i knew randomly drop before the jab? zero - unless they were in their 80s+
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post 1684947953 06-20-2023, 06:55 AM
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Ask Jamie Foxx and Justin Beiber and his wife

all had recently had the jab, Foxx had a stroke, Bieber facial paralysis and his missus had a mini stroke

LMAO and they were all in excellent health and in the Bieber's obviously very young


Vaxcels when will they learn
post 1684948023 06-20-2023, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
Ask Jamie Foxx and Justin Beiber and his wife

all had recently had the jab, Foxx had a stroke, Bieber facial paralysis and his missus had a mini stroke

LMAO and they were all in excellent health and in the Bieber's obviously very young


Vaxcels when will they learn
jamie foxx is playing "pickle ball" lmao
post 1684949133 06-20-2023, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted By messomi
jamie foxx is playing "pickle ball" lmao
i think they meant his brain has been pickled!
post 1684949983 06-20-2023, 07:32 AM
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Saying one isolated guy dying is because of the CoVID vaccine is like saying one hurricane is indicative that the climate is changing. You're ALL f'ing crazy.
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I mean, it's not like he was a prime candidate for the Olympic village.
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lol at all the miscers who have had 3 boosters chitting themselves desperately trying to blame his weight.....your times coming boyos.....but at least you kept granny safe...right?
You know why it's calledmorbidlyobese right? Before everything went PC, doctors and ads would always try to warn people about the dangers of being too big, and at 48, he had no youth shield to rely on.

I knew an underclassmen in high school that was no less than 400 lbs. He died of heart failure before he graduated. He never got to grow up because his parents didn't reel that chit in before it was too late.
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What tickles me is that miscers are so logically inept that they brand anyone saying that maybe an almost 50 year old, morbidly obese rapper dying from natural causes automatically means you defend the vax. You seriously think the man in that video was the picture of health, and anyone who doesn't automatically assume a vaccine killed him is a fauci cuck? You are all grown ass men. This type of illogical nonsense is some chit I'd expect from women or reddit.

Yes, itcouldbe vaccine related, but all we have to go on is a short clip of a fat black rapper dying. Black people are at higher risk of heart disease than others, rappers are not generally known to live healthy lifestyles, and we can literally see that this man is obese. But no, let's all just assume based on no evidence whatsoever that theonlyway a fat black rapper could possibly drop dead is because of the vax. I didn't realize heart attacks what for you to be seated in a comfortable position away from crowds before deciding to take you out. Heart attacks are much more polite than I thought.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
What tickles me is that miscers are so logically inept that they brand anyone saying that maybe an almost 50 year old, morbidly obese rapper dying from natural causes automatically means you defend the vax. You seriously think the man in that video was the picture of health, and anyone who doesn't automatically assume a vaccine killed him is a fauci cuck? You are all grown ass men. This type of illogical nonsense is some chit I'd expect from women or reddit.

Yes, itcouldbe vaccine related, but all we have to go on is a short clip of a fat black rapper dying. Black people are at higher risk of heart disease than others, rappers are not generally known to live healthy lifestyles, and we can literally see that this man is obese. But no, let's all just assume based on no evidence whatsoever that theonlyway a fat black rapper could possibly drop dead is because of the vax. I didn't realize heart attacks what for you to be seated in a comfortable position away from crowds before deciding to take you out. Heart attacks are much more polite than I thought.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
What tickles me is that miscers are so logically inept that they brand anyone saying that maybe an almost 50 year old, morbidly obese rapper dying from natural causes automatically means you defend the vax. You seriously think the man in that video was the picture of health, and anyone who doesn't automatically assume a vaccine killed him is a fauci cuck? You are all grown ass men. This type of illogical nonsense is some chit I'd expect from women or reddit.

Yes, itcouldbe vaccine related, but all we have to go on is a short clip of a fat black rapper dying. Black people are at higher risk of heart disease than others, rappers are not generally known to live healthy lifestyles, and we can literally see that this man is obese. But no, let's all just assume based on no evidence whatsoever that theonlyway a fat black rapper could possibly drop dead is because of the vax. I didn't realize heart attacks what for you to be seated in a comfortable position away from crowds before deciding to take you out. Heart attacks are much more polite than I thought.
I wouldn't even say it was the vax and I was and am extremely anti-vax (at least this one I am). I think a lot of people's angst against the vax, and the reason why many jump right to "good thing he or she was vaxxed. Imagine how much worse it could've been," is because The Jecovid Witness brigade made anyone who didn't get vaxxed feel like they were an anathema. They stretched the truth to further their agenda. In other words, this hyperbole matches their hyperbole. Quid pro quo.
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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70
I wouldn't even say it was the vax and I was and am extremely anti-vax (at least this one I am). I think a lot of people's angst against the vax, and the reason why many jump right to "good thing he or she was vaxxed. Imagine how much worse it could've been," is because The Jecovid Witness brigade made anyone who didn't get vaxxed feel like they were an anathema. They stretched the truth to further their agenda. In other words, this hyperbole matches their hyperbole. Quid pro quo.
Lol'd @ jecovid witness
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Originally Posted By CrazySerbian
It's not the vaccine. It's the fried food. Blacks eat like ****.
nope he was eating salads the last few weeks of his life you people are so biased just cause he weighted 600 pounds.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
I cited excess death statistics which disprove earlier claims.
But it doesn't matter. It's not RCT data.

the RCT showed more overall death in the jabbed group than the placebo.

the RCT showed 1 covid death in the jabbed group, 2 in the placebo. (you find this to be significant enough data to get jabbed)

the RCT showed 4 cardiac arrests in the jabbed group, 1 in the placebo. (you find this to be INSIGNIFICANT enough to ignore)

Mental gymnastic gold medalist.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54
What about those who look at a death with ZERO connection to "the jab", and instantly proclaim "it's the jab!"...?
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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70
I wouldn't even say it was the vax and I was and am extremely anti-vax (at least this one I am). I think a lot of people's angst against the vax, and the reason why many jump right to "good thing he or she was vaxxed. Imagine how much worse it could've been," is because The Jecovid Witness brigade made anyone who didn't get vaxxed feel like they were an anathema. They stretched the truth to further their agenda. In other words, this hyperbole matches their hyperbole. Quid pro quo.
So, you're trying to make yourself look just as stupid as the other extremist side? Good plan. Hope it works out for you.
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5 pages and I still didn't see it made into a gif reaction for when you see an HBB walk by.

son, i am disappoint
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Originally Posted By AWillis
if it is young people randomly dying then yeah - it's the jab

i know of 5 people through 1st connections of people dying in the last year "suddenly" and 2 more had strokes.

guess how many people i knew randomly drop before the jab? zero - unless they were in their 80s+
Great personal anecdotes, very strange coincidence that the vast majority of people's experiences with the jab outside of this forum (or infowars/conspiracy chit) is the complete opposite, yet here suddenly everyone who hates vaccines KNOWS multiple heart attack and stroke victims personally and can't wait to tell everyone. Could not be any bias it all where your so called experiences, which are unverifiable, just so happen to align with your own views.

It holds as much value as the average Reddit post.

At least try and use actual stats brah or it makes the anti-vax argument look piss weak
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Must be rough for vaxcels to come to the misc and constantly see this thread bumped reminding them of their poor life choices, and being a ticking tomb bomb of clots.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
Like the Olympic sprinter who died of eclampsia during childbirth who the rabid wingnuts were shrieking "jab, jab, jab" until the cause of death was actually published? People have died for all eternity. The difference now is that you have CT wingnuts trolling the obits in order to shriek "jab, jab, jab" every time anyone under 30 dies.
Young people dying randomly is nothing new. Its just become a lot more common of late for people in their teens-50s to start dropping dead.
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