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post 1685073623 06-22-2023, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Yeah but. You don't get laid.
Fuked my pillow this morning u mad

The game looks and runs amazing. ANYONE knocking this over internet fake news must be incel
post 1685090903 06-22-2023, 10:43 AM
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xbots are so desperate to chit on this game LMAO

you'd think they would be too busy playing and having fun in Red Fall to care (like they claimed a few weeks ago)

I'm on Japanese Twitter and no one in Japan even gives a chit about the performance mode not being locked 60fps

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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
Lmao at console peasants still coping that 30fps is acceptable in 2023.
If I could play it on my $2000 PC, I would. But it isn't an option.

PS5 is $500 bro. You need to set your expectations to a realistic level.

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Originally Posted By obmas
xbots are so desperate to chit on this game LMAO

you'd think they would be too busy playing and having fun in Red Fall to care (like they claimed a few weeks ago)

I'm on Japanese Twitter and no one in Japan even gives a chit about the performance mode not being locked 60fps
I mean, the Sony crew just getting straight up karma. Every sonycel was going ham with the chit talk when redfall dropped and bombed. The 30fps chit was non stop, and I always found that weird since every console game is 30fps in quality mode on both consoles.


Still at the end of the day, ff16 is a good game with bad performance specs, and redfall is a bad game with bad performance specs. Redfall will go down in gaming history as one of the worst released games of all time. Don't let the Xcels get into your head hehe, they still have to take that L. anyone with a brain knows ff16 is lightyears better of a game lol. I played 1 hour of the demo and that was enough for me to know that.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
I mean, the Sony crew just getting straight up karma. Every sonycel was going ham with the chit talk when redfall dropped and bombed. The 30fps chit was non stop, and I always found that weird since every console game is 30fps in quality mode on both consoles.


Still at the end of the day, ff16 is a good game with bad performance specs, and redfall is a bad game with bad performance specs. Redfall will go down in gaming history as one of the worst released games of all time. Don't let the Xcels get into your head hehe, they still have to take that L. anyone with a brain knows ff16 is lightyears better of a game lol. I played 1 hour of the demo and that was enough for me to know that.
I think games this generation with performance issues is just going to be the norm, to be honest. Developers want to push the envelope with fidelity and features, but they can only take is so far with $500 of hardware that is already several years outdated.

If people REALLY cared, they can just buy a RTX 4090 and wait for the PC release. I'd rather just enjoy the game now.

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Originally Posted By freeburn
I mean, the Sony crew just getting straight up karma. Every sonycel was going ham with the chit talk when redfall dropped and bombed. The 30fps chit was non stop, and I always found that weird since every console game is 30fps in quality mode on both consoles.


Still at the end of the day, ff16 is a good game with bad performance specs, and redfall is a bad game with bad performance specs. Redfall will go down in gaming history as one of the worst released games of all time. Don't let the Xcels get into your head hehe, they still have to take that L. anyone with a brain knows ff16 is lightyears better of a game lol. I played 1 hour of the demo and that was enough for me to know that.
Well that's basically the whole funny thing. They go off on some militant mission against Xbox because a game runs at 30fps, then their big "exclusive" release can't run at 60fps smoothly and displays in 720p when you try.

It's just funny.
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The funny thing is that no Chads are playing this weird anime bullchit where you ride around on big bird. I never met someone who gets laid who's into final fantasy anime
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Well that's basically the whole funny thing. They go off on some militant mission against Xbox because a game runs at 30fps, then their big "exclusive" release can't run at 60fps smoothly and displays in 720p when you try.

It's just funny.
What's funny too according to reviewers, the game runs fine during combat and intense moments but dips when simply running around in the world. Unoptimized garbage Sony has been "working closely" with square enix.
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Originally Posted By taskmob
What's funny too according to reviewers, the game runs fine during combat and intense moments but dips when simply running around in the world. Unoptimized garbage Sony has been "working closely" with square enix.
Reminds me of a lot of games from the PS3/360 era, as well as the pre-upgrade PS4/One era.
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Originally Posted By taskmob
What's funny too according to reviewers, the game runs fine during combat and intense moments but dips when simply running around in the world. Unoptimized garbage Sony has been "working closely" with square enix.
reviwers are saying the game looks amazing and runs amazing, which it does. There are different graphics modes.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Well that's basically the whole funny thing. They go off on some militant mission against Xbox because a game runs at 30fps, then their big "exclusive" release can't run at 60fps smoothly and displays in 720p when you try.

It's just funny.
I've been playing the retail game for a few hours now and my thoughts on the 720pGATE is this:

It was the right call to maintain 60fps. While still disappointing nonetheless, at no point during the battle are you even going to notice. If you are just standing there and looking at the front of the character model, then yes it is noticeable. But during combat, the action is so fast paced, with so much particles flying, and everything is in motion anyways, you're not even going to notice it. This whole 720p thing is blown way out of proportion. Which is not surprising since it's mostly coming out of a certain camp. Granted, I acknowledge that the sony fanboys would be doing the exact same thing had this game been XBOX exclusive.

Having said that, it is one of two options. If you want the sharper visuals, then by all means choose Fidelity mode. However, in a game like this, I don't recommend it. Performance mode in battles is the way to go here even if it has dips during very intense battles... but that is to be expected. PC gamers will obviously get the best of both worlds when the game eventually gets ported.

Unfortunately, PC is not an option right now so you just have to accept the console limitations.

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post 1685131463 06-22-2023, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted By taskmob
What's funny too according to reviewers, the game runs fine during combat and intense moments but dips when simply running around in the world. Unoptimized garbage Sony has been "working closely" with square enix.
Pretty much every single console game that isn't cross gen has so far had performance issues. Developers would most likely continue to patch the game and improve performance as time goes on. HFW was getting updates pretty much every single month and even 15 months after release it is still getting updates. Despite many people saying that there's nothing Guerilla Games can do to fix the shimmering in performance mode.... they eventually proved everyone wrong and gave us the best looking Performance mode on consoles to date.

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Originally Posted By obmas
I've been playing the retail game for a few hours now and my thoughts on the 720pGATE is this:

It was the right call to maintain 60fps. While still disappointing nonetheless, at no point during the battle are you even going to notice. If you are just standing there and looking at the front of the character model, then yes it is noticeable. But during combat, the action is so fast paced, with so much particles flying, and everything is in motion anyways, you're not even going to notice it. This whole 720p thing is blown way out of proportion. Which is not surprising since it's mostly coming out of a certain camp. Granted, I acknowledge that the sony fanboys would be doing the exact same thing had this game been XBOX exclusive.

Having said that, it is one of two options. If you want the sharper visuals, then by all means choose Fidelity mode. However, in a game like this, I don't recommend it. Performance mode in battles is the way to go here even if it has dips during very intense battles... but that is to be expected. PC gamers will obviously get the best of both worlds when the game eventually gets ported.

Unfortunately, PC is not an option right now so you just have to accept the console limitations.
Lol @ 720Pp gate, but I agree, it's always worthwhile to have a 60fps mode. I was here when it came to a number of One X enhanced titles, they would have a good looking fidelity mode but it would always be 30fps, some games would have a 60fps option but it would usually result in something like 720p resolution. Despite that I would usually go for the 60fps, because I just think games look better when the frame rate is smooth, especially if it's a racing game or first person shooter.

Probably the closest thing to this for me was Witcher 3 on the One X, where I would use the 60fps mode over 30fps simply because I just loved how much smoother it made the camera.
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These games are to be played on an OLED TV in the living room a few meters away. Enough that you cant see the all pixelated trash upclose.
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Originally Posted By Fred87nc
These games are to be played on an OLED TV in the living room a few meters away. Enough that you cant see the all pixelated trash upclose.
It's like looking at an impressionist painting.
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The game looks striking enough on "graphics" mode with my 4k OLED - at least sitting at a distance on a couch. I'd get it for PC if I could've, but Sony gonna Sony. Framerate is rough though, compared to what I'm used to in PC gaming.

It's very very obvious when you have a cinematic cutscene that transitions into the gameplay. Often with quest dialogue, it starts out as a beautiful high res cinematic, facial animations look great, graphics quality is great, then towards the end of the dialogue it's suddenly the game and extremely obvious. Mouth movement is off, facial expressions become unnatural, graphics in general are poorer. They try to make it a seamless transition, but it's super obvious. I'd say God of War looked better for "gameplay dialogue" type of moments. Red Dead Redemption 2 as well.

Doesn't matter though, it's about the story and gameplay. Right now I'm probably 12 or so hours deep into the game and I'm loving the story more than anything else - lots of plot twists, happily my predictions about the plot from seeing the trailers and being worried I spoiled everything for myself is all wrong. Gameplay is satisfying when what I'm trying to do works, but I still struggle with the controls a bit, haven't touched a PlayStation controller in a long time, and this is probably the first Final Fantasy game I've played in over 15 years, srs. The last one I ever tried was FFXII in 2006 / 2007.

Closing thoughts: I wish it were on PC, and what I'm about to say doesn't change that. But, it's always kind of nice to come back to the PS5 for an exclusive title, where the controller is all synced up with the game for haptic feedback, vibrations, color changes, audio from the controller speaker, etc. Every potion you take is a liquid drop sound effect, using fire magic makes a flame sound effect, opening big doors is a haptic feedback interaction.

EDIT: The only thing I'd change about the game, if I could, is to enable the ability to choose a pure magic or pure ranged playstyle. I usually like going into pure mage type of builds in RPGs, but it is what it is.
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Weren't they just talking about how being exclusive let them maximize performance? just lol
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Well that's basically the whole funny thing. They go off on some militant mission against Xbox because a game runs at 30fps, then their big "exclusive" release can't run at 60fps smoothly and displays in 720p when you try.

It's just funny.
Really funny how quickly 30 FPS became perfectly acceptable in an exclusive.

Having said that, game is pretty damn fun.
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Some of the areas seem to be way excessive in terms of foliage density and detailed polygon geometry. I wonder if this is maybe contributing to the performance dips.

To be honest, the early Forest area, while looking good, really did not need that much vegetation. They should have scaled it back to get better performance. i suspect this is probably what they will have to do. The vineyard area right after the forest had just an insane amount of individually rendered grapes.

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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
Really funny how quickly 30 FPS became perfectly acceptable in an exclusive.

Having said that, game is pretty damn fun.
Xbox has a 30fps title: "OMG this is why Xbox sucks they are so awful I hate them"

PS has a 30fps title: "You see this is actually a good thing because that means they are really trying to optimize the fidelity and nobody needs 60fps"

Jokes aside, glad people are enjoying it at least. As lame as I think Final Fantasy is, I would much rather play this than that stupid vampire game that nobody wanted.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
PS has a 30fps title: "You see this is actually a good thing because that means they are really trying to optimize the fidelity andnobody needs 60fps"
Come on now. This is strawman argument. None of us has said that (that im aware of)

The criticism has always been about not providing the option of 60fps. Even if FF16's performance mode is not ideal, at least they are giving you the option. And it's possible it can still be fixed by downscaling the number of objects and particles on screen. It's a bit excessive.

Devs shouldn't tell you how you should play.

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Originally Posted By obmas
Come on now. This is strawman argument. None of us has said that (that im aware of)

The criticism has always been about not providing the option of 60fps. Even if FF16's performance mode is not ideal, at least they are giving you the option. And it's possible it can still be fixed by downscaling the number of objects and particles on screen. It's a bit excessive.

Devs shouldn't tell you how you should play.
Maybe not you guys, but don't underestimate the cope some fanboys will throw out there. Some people still claim you can't see beyond 30fps lol.
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I'm gonna be honest; I can't tell the difference between graphics and performance mode, so I must have an outdated TV. I always go for performance mode for that reason.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
I'm gonna be honest; I can't tell the difference between graphics and performance mode, so I must have an outdated TV. I always go for performance mode for that reason.
i can maybe tell a little diffence but not much.ive got a TCL 6 series i bought 3 or 4 months ago.its made for gaming but its not OLED.does OLED really make that much of a difference?
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What is this thread even about. What’s 720p is that bad?

Who even cares about graphics games have basically looked the same since PS3
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
What is this thread even about. What’s 720p is that bad?

Who even cares about graphics games have basically looked the same since PS3
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Strong incel vibes bro just sayin!
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
Strong incel vibes bro just sayin!
I'm an incel because you came to the gaming and tech section and proved yourself retarded when it comes to both subjects?
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Originally Posted By freeburn
I'm an incel because you came to the gaming and tech section and proved yourself retarded when it comes to both subjects?
Only an incel would not play a game because the graphics are 0.2% less than they could be lol
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
Only an incel would not play a game because the graphics are 0.2% less than they could be lol
The reason you can't tell the difference is because you are probably nearly blind by now from years of excessive masterbation, because only an incel calls other people incels.

Us Chads still have 20/20 vision and can tell the difference between 720p and beyond.
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