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Fukk should I buy a PS5 this weekend and download this chit action combat game?
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
Fukk should I buy a PS5 this weekend and download this chit action combat game?
do it incel
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Having some gripes with this game.



It just feels too disjointed. The cutscenes are great and all and I absolutely love linear games .... But this game feels too linear. Like there's no realistic kind of progression from one area to the area, you just jump from place to place and the areas themselves are just so small and basically hallways or little arena's for the fights there's nothing in the way of any exploration or interesting level design. There's nothing really that interesting about these levels other than the incredible art design and graphics lol.

That disjointed feel goes to the cutscenes as well, the story set up just seems poorly executed. I feel like I'm dropped in and things are happening ... I have a rough idea of everything, but it's a bit annoying they just bring up random kingdom things and don't really explain them properly via cutscenes or the usual walk and talk expo dumps. There's a dude who gives you all the lore, but it just feels amateur and lazy if I have to go in there to understand wtf is happening ... Mass Effect did this beautifully. You were still dropped into a new strange world, but from the get go they explained everything well and you understood everything and the lore section adds more flavor, but you still get the general gist. Even FF7 Remake had a better story structure and layout and explained everything well.

The lack of any RPG elements is so fukkin disappointing ... There's no elemental weaknesses/strengths. The itemization is useless because you get a bunch of gear / swords but honestly wtf is the point if they're not doing anything interesting with them ... It's there just for the sake of it. This game is trying to be so hard to be an action game, but just tacks on these gear items which seem to have no viable benefit.



The game is still excellent and fun and I'm all in for now, but so far this just seems to be the kind of game where it's more of a visual orgasm for PS5 owners lol.


Gonna be honest, as far as gameplay, systems and the overall package goes ..FF7 absolutely mogs this game. Since the beginning as keen as I was for this game, I was still far more hyped for FF7 rebirth.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
do it incel
I have a feeling I might play for 3 hours and get bored I’d the stupid action battle system srs
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Originally Posted By bongowongo
Having some gripes with this game.
Yikes I was fearing it would turn out this way... sounds about right for soyny exclusive, all cinematics and pretty graphics
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Ok I went out to target and bought a PS5, currently installing the game
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This tall Chad Kupka is basically me, and the little marshal dude who he mogged is basically BBMG
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
This tall Chad Kupka is basically me, and the little marshal dude who he mogged is basically BBMG
I wanna get Benedikta pregnant
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
I wanna get Benedikta pregnant
Hehe das it
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So Clive is basically John Snow
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Finally unlocked another ability set.

We got claws now boyo
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Last FF I played was 10

Have there been any good ones since the ?
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Originally Posted By NotaWK
Last FF I played was 10

Have there been any good ones since the ?
12, and from my 4ish hours so far, this.
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FF16 is the best game since Persona 5 so good
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Originally Posted By bongowongo
Having some gripes with this game.



It just feels too disjointed. The cutscenes are great and all and I absolutely love linear games .... But this game feels too linear. Like there's no realistic kind of progression from one area to the area, you just jump from place to place and the areas themselves are just so small and basically hallways or little arena's for the fights there's nothing in the way of any exploration or interesting level design. There's nothing really that interesting about these levels other than the incredible art design and graphics lol.

That disjointed feel goes to the cutscenes as well, the story set up just seems poorly executed. I feel like I'm dropped in and things are happening ... I have a rough idea of everything, but it's a bit annoying they just bring up random kingdom things and don't really explain them properly via cutscenes or the usual walk and talk expo dumps. There's a dude who gives you all the lore, but it just feels amateur and lazy if I have to go in there to understand wtf is happening ... Mass Effect did this beautifully. You were still dropped into a new strange world, but from the get go they explained everything well and you understood everything and the lore section adds more flavor, but you still get the general gist. Even FF7 Remake had a better story structure and layout and explained everything well.

The lack of any RPG elements is so fukkin disappointing ... There's no elemental weaknesses/strengths. The itemization is useless because you get a bunch of gear / swords but honestly wtf is the point if they're not doing anything interesting with them ... It's there just for the sake of it. This game is trying to be so hard to be an action game, but just tacks on these gear items which seem to have no viable benefit.



The game is still excellent and fun and I'm all in for now, but so far this just seems to be the kind of game where it's more of a visual orgasm for PS5 owners lol.


Gonna be honest, as far as gameplay, systems and the overall package goes ..FF7 absolutely mogs this game. Since the beginning as keen as I was for this game, I was still far more hyped for FF7 rebirth.
These are mostly valid, this is a linear action game. They called it an rpg but there's nothing really to justify that. I love 7remake, I love this too they're completely different games in terms of what they're going for
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In terms of your second point, are you using active time lore? That's one of the things people rave about. Every scene that randomly comes up, use it and it explains everything right there. You don't need to go to the old guy.

Oh also how far are you no spoilers? Cause I've run into some pretty large areas that let you run around and fight freely and explore a bit.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
12, and from my 4ish hours so far, this.
You didn't like remake or just not counting it?
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Originally Posted By DASBUNKER
Yikes I was fearing it would turn out this way... sounds about right for soyny exclusive, all cinematics and pretty graphics
Turn out what way? Almost everything he said they've been pretty openly saying in their marketing.

This is a linear action game with lots of story and fighting. There's nothing to find out or be surprised by.

Its not all cinematic, There's ALOT of fighting
post 1685204813 06-24-2023, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
I have a feeling I might play for 3 hours and get bored I’d the stupid action battle system srs
I don't see how this is possible. If you have a pulse there's no way you can get bored. The central principle behind this game is Rollercoaster. Its the definition of action
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
These are mostly valid, this is a linear action game. They called it an rpg but there's nothing really to justify that. I love 7remake, I love this too they're completely different games in terms of what they're going for
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In terms of your second point, are you using active time lore? That's one of the things people rave about. Every scene that randomly comes up, use it and it explains everything right there. You don't need to go to the old guy.

Oh also how far are you no spoilers? Cause I've run into some pretty large areas that let you run around and fight freely and explore a bit.
Yeah, I mean I get it .. It's a different combat system, but I just wish they could have done it differently. I felt like they reached the perfect battle system with FF7 with the active TB system and I was hoping that it would be the blueprint going forward because it used the best of both worlds perfectly and you had the selection of party members as well.


I have been using the active lore system, but I still feel like it's clunky and my gripe is more toward the execution of the story and structure. These things could have been easily done via cutscenes ... Everything feels rushed, but at the same time it takes time... y'know? They could have spent a bit more time setting the stage for everything but it just feels like we're treated to a bunch of random cutscenes jumping from here and there.


I'm somewhat early on? I just reached the part where I got the Limit Break bar. Yeah, those open area zones are nice, but there's really nothing worth exploring or seeing.


Here's another gripe .... The sidequests are atrocious. Probably some of the worst, but then again it's square enix and for some reason they get lazy as fuk on sidequests which just become meaningless fetch quests ... even ff7 remake had it.


Honestly I think my biggest gripe with the entire game is just the combat system ... The current system is cool and flashy and feels good, but I personally don't think it's particularly fun or too engaging (unless in boss battles) ... The FF7 real time atb was too damned good for me.



I have a love/hate relationship with this series lol ... I have so many issues with their games, but at the same time I still enjoy them for what they are.
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Originally Posted By bongowongo
Yeah, I mean I get it .. It's a different combat system, but I just wish they could have done it differently. I felt like they reached the perfect battle system with FF7 with the active TB system and I was hoping that it would be the blueprint going forward because it used the best of both worlds perfectly and you had the selection of party members as well.


I have been using the active lore system, but I still feel like it's clunky and my gripe is more toward the execution of the story and structure. These things could have been easily done via cutscenes ... Everything feels rushed, but at the same time it takes time... y'know? They could have spent a bit more time setting the stage for everything but it just feels like we're treated to a bunch of random cutscenes jumping from here and there.


I'm somewhat early on? I just reached the part where I got the Limit Break bar. Yeah, those open area zones are nice, but there's really nothing worth exploring or seeing.


Here's another gripe .... The sidequests are atrocious. Probably some of the worst, but then again it's square enix and for some reason they get lazy as fuk on sidequests which just become meaningless fetch quests ... even ff7 remake had it.


Honestly I think my biggest gripe with the entire game is just the combat system ... The current system is cool and flashy and feels good, but I personally don't think it's particularly fun or too engaging (unless in boss battles) ... The FF7 real time atb was too damned good for me.



I have a love/hate relationship with this series lol ... I have so many issues with their games, but at the same time I still enjoy them for what they are.
I can see your points, Ive been following the games marketing very closely so I knew pretty much all this going in, I think expectations matter. Like I dont know why anyone was expecting exploration in this. Remake didnt have exploration either btw, I dont know why anyone expected it in this.

I definitely dont agree on the story though, there's so many cutscenes and they literally explain every scene with time lore if you dont know whats going on. Its very well done imo, they DO randomly cut to places at times but again, they explain it.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
You didn't like remake or just not counting it?
Not counting
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
I can see your points, Ive been following the games marketing very closely so I knew pretty much all this going in, I think expectations matter. Like I dont know why anyone was expecting exploration in this. Remake didnt have exploration either btw, I dont know why anyone expected it in this.

I definitely dont agree on the story though, there's so many cutscenes and they literally explain every scene with time lore if you dont know whats going on. Its very well done imo, they DO randomly cut to places at times but again, they explain it.
I meant exploration that actually kinda rewards you for going off the beaten path. Remake was great in the sense that you found those little balls which gave you different abilities. I've been exploring FF16 and the only thing I find are just potions and crafting material, which doesn't really do much regardless.

I just watched Skill ups review and he has a lot of talking points that I was thinking about while playing the game.


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Originally Posted By bongowongo
I meant exploration that actually kinda rewards you for going off the beaten path. Remake was great in the sense that you found those little balls which gave you different abilities. I've been exploring FF16 and the only thing I find are just potions and crafting material, which doesn't really do much regardless.

I just watched Skill ups review and he has a lot of talking points that I was thinking about while playing the game.


You do get some rings that be pretty useful by exploring. Like ones that give different moves boosts etc but in general I get your point
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Turn out what way? Almost everything he said they've been pretty openly saying in their marketing.

This is a linear action game with lots of story and fighting. There's nothing to find out or be surprised by.

Its not all cinematic, There's ALOT of fighting
I mean cinematics being a big part of the appeal, they're nice and all but was it wrong to expect a little exploration in an "RPG" that now turns it's just an average sony action adventure cinematic game?

A game can be linear but the way Bango described areas and progression was really underwhelming and I'm inclined to believe it cus I've seen it before, I suppose assuming Final Fantasy the most known RPG franchise next game was going to be an RPG was incorrect, not everyone had followed every minor detail about it to this point
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Originally Posted By DASBUNKER
I mean cinematics being a big part of the appeal, they're nice and all but was it wrong to expect a little exploration in an "RPG" that now turns it's just an average sony action adventure cinematic game?

A game can be linear but the way Bango described areas and progression was really underwhelming and I'm inclined to believe it cus I've seen it before, I suppose assuming Final Fantasy the most known RPG franchise next game was going to be an RPG was incorrect, not everyone had followed every minor detail about it to this point
Yea I agree calling it an rpg really wasn't accurate.

Anyway, anyone else at the second time skip? Cause my mind can't process what just happened. Let's discuss
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[QUOTE=bongowongo post_id=1685209343]I just watched Skill ups review and he has a lot of talking points that I was thinking about while playing the game.

[youtube]PzfUardkloY[youtube][/QUOTE][QUOTE]In Square Enix's haste to evolve this franchise to something new, they have left behind far too much that made Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy.[/QUOTE]Sums it up for me.
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Originally Posted By chrsschb
Sums it up for me.
Except it entirely false. You boomers think nothing should ever change.

This game feels as "final fantasy" as any of the others
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Except it entirely false. You boomers think nothing should ever change.
If I wanted to play a game that isn't Final Fantasy, I'd just play a game that isn't Final Fantasy. Reality is the company can do whatever it wants and I'm sure they are making plenty of money for it. I'm not playing it though as it doesn't appeal to me.
Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
This game feels as "final fantasy" as any of the others
Pure cope.
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Holy chit Odin and Bahamut look fukking sick
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Was so fkn hyped for this game.

Come to find out it has almost no RPG element. FOH.

If I wanted to play a straight action game I'd play DMC.

No builds, no weapon variety, no fashion equipment, pointless itemization, meaningless stat upgrades, trash quests, linear game.

Why can't they just make another FF as GOAT as 12? Is it so fkn hard? Why is this Japanese company so retarded.
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