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post 1685305753 06-25-2023, 07:41 PM
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Trump's lead over DeSantis doubles post indictment in NBC poll

April: Trump 46% - DeSantis 31%

June: Trump 51% - DeSantis 22%


https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...inds-rcna90420


As expected, most Republicans are seeing right through this indictment...
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Originally Posted By Fishman15
April: Trump 46% - DeSantis 31%

June: Trump 51% - DeSantis 22%


https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre...inds-rcna90420


As expected, most Republicans are seeing right through this indictment...
What? Of course Republicans don't care. We'll see if they still feel the same way after the evidence is shown to the public.

But I guess you missed the part that is relevant: 55% of independents have big issues with the indictment. Sorry, son. He's never going to be president again, sugarfoot.
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Originally Posted By z4v4
What? Of course Republicans don't care. We'll see if they still feel the same way after the evidence is shown to the public.

But I guess you missed the part that is relevant: 55% of independents have big issues with the indictment. Sorry, son. He's never going to be president again, sugarfoot.
Sorry, son but he's already outperformed your original predictions which means you're out on this one. Better luck next time...
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Great news for the Democrats who secretly want nothing more than to wipe the floor with Trump again.

2018 - cucked
2020 - cucked
2022 - cucked

They'll have their usual slam dunk with party members and independents coming out in droves to vote against the orange man.

Trumpers still don't get it after the 2022 fiasco. Last year should've been a biblical red wave but instead we got a tiny red splash with every Trump's key endorsement getting absolutely annihilated. Even easy picks like Boebart barely scraped by to the finishing line.

The last thing Democrats want to do is run against someone like Mike Pence who will smoke Biden in the debates (like he did to Kaine and Harris) and attract a ton of independent/swing vote.
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth
Great news for the Democrats who secretly want nothing more than to wipe the floor with Trump again.

2018 - cucked
2020 - cucked
2022 - cucked

They'll have their usual slam dunk with party members and independents coming out in droves to vote against the orange man.

Trumpers still don't get it after the 2022 fiasco. Last year should've been a biblical red wave but instead we got a tiny red splash with every Trump's key endorsement getting absolutely annihilated. Even easy picks like Boebart barely scraped by to the finishing line.

The last thing Democrats want to do is run against someone like Mike Pence who will smoke Biden in the debates (like he did to Kaine and Harris) and attract a ton of independent/swing vote.
Yea, well we tried the RINO Establishment thing recently too. McCain and Romney were absolutely pathetic...
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth
Great news for the Democrats who secretly want nothing more than to wipe the floor with Trump again.

2018 - cucked
2020 - cucked
2022 - cucked

They'll have their usual slam dunk with party members and independents coming out in droves to vote against the orange man.

Trumpers still don't get it after the 2022 fiasco. Last year should've been a biblical red wave but instead we got a tiny red splash with every Trump's key endorsement getting absolutely annihilated. Even easy picks like Boebart barely scraped by to the finishing line.

The last thing Democrats want to do is run against someone like Mike Pence who will smoke Biden in the debates (like he did to Kaine and Harris) and attract a ton of independent/swing vote.
This lmao (minus the Pence part, he's not going to perform well in a general election)

Blumpfies think that McDonnie is surging in the polls because DeSantis is "getting exposed" or something, when in reality primaries attract the more crazy voters on both sides. So of course Republican primary voters are going to dig their feet in and double down on their support for their martyr.

McDonnie is going to get fuking rocked in 24

Also that same poll shows Brandon beating Blumpf +4, but tied with DeSantis. Kind of proves our point here.
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Originally Posted By Fishman15
Yea, well we tried the RINO Establishment thing recently too. McCain and Romney were absolutely pathetic...
McDonnie can only beat the most hated candidate in recent history though (Hillary)

He couldn't even beat a senile invalid and a diversity hire.
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Originally Posted By John
This lmao (minus the Pence part, he's not going to perform well in a general election)

Blumpfies think that McDonnie is surging in the polls because DeSantis is "getting exposed" or something, when in reality primaries attract the more crazy voters on both sides. So of course Republican primary voters are going to dig their feet in and double down on their support for their martyr.

McDonnie is going to get fuking rocked in 20

Also that same poll shows Brandon beating Blumpf +4, but tied with DeSantis. Kind of proves our point here.
tbh the fact Trump is only down 4 to Biden is incredible

If Trump could act like a fukkin adult, he'd crush Biden. But he and his cult are full blown retards. And that's what makes it so frustrating.
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Originally Posted By John
This lmao (minus the Pence part, he's not going to perform well in a general election)

Blumpfies think that McDonnie is surging in the polls because DeSantis is "getting exposed" or something, when in reality primaries attract the more crazy voters on both sides. So of course Republican primary voters are going to dig their feet in and double down on their support for their martyr.

McDonnie is going to get fuking rocked in 20

Also that same poll shows Brandon beating Blumpf +4, but tied with DeSantis. Kind of proves our point here.
Says the guy who thought Roe was good for the 2022 midterms
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Originally Posted By John
McDonnie can only beat the most hated candidate in recent history though (Hillary)
Nah, he can beat Captain Ron too
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja
Says the guy who thought Roe was good for the 2022 midterms
Can you quote the post where I said that?

I've said multiple times to you that Roe did not help, but it also was not the main reason Republicans underperformed. There was another yuge reason for that.
Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja
Nah, he can beat Captain Ron too
......yeah, in a primary where Blumpfies are going to come out in droves to vote for their precious.

Dude is getting rocked against grandpa mush mouth in the general.
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Originally Posted By John
This lmao (minus the Pence part, he's not going to perform well in a general election)

Blumpfies think that McDonnie is surging in the polls because DeSantis is "getting exposed" or something, when in reality primaries attract the more crazy voters on both sides. So of course Republican primary voters are going to dig their feet in and double down on their support for their martyr.

McDonnie is going to get fuking rocked in 24

Also that same poll shows Brandon beating Blumpf +4, but tied with DeSantis. Kind of proves our point here.
It's funny because DeSantis is trying to right to the right of Trump too. I don't even know what the phuck Trump is running on? Build the wall again? Immigration? He doesn't talk about anything except that he was cheated last time and the indictments
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja
Nah, he can beat Captain Ron too
But not Badass Biden
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Originally Posted By John
This lmao (minus the Pence part, he's not going to perform well in a general election)
Why not?

Pence gained a lot of cred from Democrats after refusing to help Trump with the Jan 6th thing. No one can accuse him of being just another Trump bootlicker, which is the main problem that every GOP candidate is dealing with.

He's going to smoke Biden for 3 debates in a row. We saw how he performed against the blowhard Kaine and Harris, the guy is a smooth killer. Too bad that Trump choked every single one of his debates and dragged Pence down with him.

He's down the middle guy and knows how articulate every controversial issue without starting a flame war like Trump does.

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Who's your pick? DeSantis? He fuked himself with the abortion already. Liberals are going to spam the "six week abortion" ads 24/7 and it's going to be a repeat of 2022 midterms.
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So the dem trap actually worked. They goaded the GOP to nominate exactly who they know will have the hardest time winning.

Great.
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Originally Posted By Fishman15
Yea, well we tried the RINO Establishment thing recently too. McCain and Romney were absolutely pathetic...
And Trump has also lost a presidential campaign. At least Romney is in a relevant position right now lol.
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth
Why not?

Pence gained a lot of cred from Democrats after refusing to help Trump with the Jan 6th thing. No one can accuse him of being just another Trump bootlicker, which is the main problem that every GOP candidate is dealing with.

He's going to smoke Biden for 3 debates in a row. We saw how he performed against the blowhard Kaine and Harris, the guy is a smooth killer. Too bad that Trump choked every single one of his debates and dragged Pence down with him.

He's down the middle guy and knows how articulate every controversial issue without starting a flame war like Trump does.

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Who's your pick? DeSantis? He fuked himself with the abortion already. Liberals are going to spam the "six week abortion" ads 24/7 and it's going to be a repeat of 2022 midterms.
Pence is pretty good at debates, but debates really don't move the needle all that much (unless you come off as an absolute fuking lunatic like Blumpf did)

DeSantis and Haley are the only two viable candidates for the GOP imo, and Haley is trash, so my pick is Desantis. If you think Desantis fuked himself with abortion, then I'm not sure why you're going with Pence. He's been talking a lot about putting federal abortion restrictions into place.
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The Dems really got this nailed.

They know a huge chunk of Rs are morally bankrupt deplorable filth who will only increase their devotion to dear leader even as his criminality is further exposed.

Having Trump in the general would then be the best gift for the Dems, given how much of the country hates him and how hard his endorsements were BTFO'd just last year.

Again, sleepy Joe doesn't even need to leave his basement to cruise to another win.

Repubs had a great chance to cut their baggage and choose someone who could engage well with the electorate more broadly (maybe not Desantis given his cringey obsession with wokeism and the L's he's taken already) but you can always count on them to double down on scum
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Originally Posted By John
Pence is pretty good at debates, but debates really don't move the needle all that much (unless you come off as an absolute fuking lunatic like Blumpf did)

DeSantis and Haley are the only two viable candidates for the GOP imo, and Haley is trash, so my pick is Desantis. If you think Desantis fuked himself with abortion, then I'm not sure why you're going with Pence. He's been talking a lot about putting federal abortion restrictions into place.
Pence is actually more moderate on abortion than DeSantis.

Pence's position is a 15-week federal ban (which is a moot position because a 15-week federal ban won't get through Congress). He then says the issue will be left to the states. Even Pence's 15-week ban is fair because most pro-choice voters don't want abortions in second trimester

DeSantis, in contrast, signed a 6-week abortion ban. Many women don't know they are pregnant by 6 weeks

Pence's biggest issue is that idiotic MAGAers hate him for not breaking the law and trying to overturn the election.

The most viable candidate in the general may actually be Tim Scott
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond
Pence is actually more moderate on abortion than DeSantis.

Pence's position is a 15-week federal ban (which is a moot position because a 15-week federal ban won't get through Congress). He then says the issue will be left to the states. Even Pence's 15-week ban is fair because most pro-choice voters don't want abortions in second trimester

DeSantis, in contrast, signed a 6-week abortion ban. Many women don't know they are pregnant by 6 weeks

Pence's biggest issue is that idiotic MAGAers hate him for not breaking the law and trying to overturn the election.

The most viable candidate in the general may actually be Tim Scott
Yeah no. Tim Scott sucks, his positions suck and he has no charisma or base.

I guarantee DeSantis will have a more moderate abortion position as presidential candidate.

And Pence's problem is he has no message. What's he running on? Fiscal conservative and balancing the budget? Lol no one gives a phuck about that.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly
Yeah no. Tim Scott sucks, his positions suck and he has no charisma or base.

I guarantee DeSantis will have a more moderate abortion position as presidential candidate.

And Pence's problem is he has no message. What's he running on? Fiscal conservative and balancing the budget? Lol no one gives a phuck about that.
How is he supposed to run on a more moderate abortion position? The guy signed a bill for a 6-week ban in Florida. That's his position
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond
How is he supposed to run on a more moderate abortion position? The guy signed a bill for a 6-week ban in Florida. That's his position
That's what the Florida legislature passed. Doesn't mean he'd ask for the same thing for the national legislature.
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond
How is he supposed to run on a more moderate abortion position? The guy signed a bill for a 6-week ban in Florida. That's his position
Funny enough, Trump entertained the idea of national restrictions just this past weekend. Of course, this was in front of evangelicals and he'll probably say the exact opposite in front of normal Americans that aren't religious wackos.
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Originally Posted By Phil9
Funny enough, Trump entertained the idea of national restrictions just this past weekend. Of course, this was in front of evangelicals and he'll probably say the exact opposite in front of normal Americans that aren't religious wackos.
To be fair Trump did say he supported abortion restrictions during a debate with Hillary.

That's one thing about Trump. In terms of his positions (which are all lies) he remained far right even during the general election.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
To be fair Trump did say he supported abortion restrictions during a debate with Hillary.

That's one thing about Trump. In terms of his positions (which are all lies) he remained far right even during the general election.
But said the polar opposite in April by saying it was a state issue.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...28d713ff90aa31


I guess you can never be wrong if you just take every position at some point.
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Originally Posted By Phil9
But said the polar opposite in April by saying it was a state issue.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...28d713ff90aa31

I guess you can never be wrong if you just take every position at some point.
He's also promising to deport illegal immigrants again now lol

Trump is a brilliant con artist. Gotta give him that.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
He's also promising to deport illegal immigrants again now lol
Will Mexico pay for that too? Always gotta look at saving a buck when you can.
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Will Mexico pay for that too? Always gotta look at saving a buck when you can.
No he'll fund it through another Steve Bannon GoFundMe lol. Remember that? That was hilarious.
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