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post 1685334003 06-26-2023, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Interesting to see how you don't consider fudging a number related to the efficacy of the vaccine by more than two decimal points to be "lying". It is also interesting to see how claiming that Comirnaty is available in beaverland is also not "lying".
When did I fudge anything about efficacy?
post 1685334023 06-26-2023, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Vaccines confer acquired immunity.
Well that's not what the Medical Community, through the MSM, was leading the public to believe (and vilifying those who didn't believe it or were skeptical).
post 1685334213 06-26-2023, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Vaccines confer acquired immunity.

Does the shingles vaccine you received provide what you call "definitive immunity"?
I have not seen people continue to get shingles once vaccinated, myself included. Can’t say the same for the Covid vaccine
post 1685334463 06-26-2023, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Well that's not what the Medical Community, through the MSM, was leading the public to believe (and vilifying those who didn't believe it or were skeptical).
I see.

So multiple fields conspired through all of mainstream media to take advantage of an ignorant public?
post 1685334473 06-26-2023, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
I have not seen people continue to get shingles once vaccinated, myself included. Can’t say the same for the Covid vaccine
Really?

Your understanding is that shingles vaccine is sterilizing and 100% effective?

Where did you see that?

Did you get one dose or two?
post 1685334863 06-26-2023, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Really?

Your understanding is that shingles vaccine is sterilizing and 100% effective?

Where did you see that?

Did you get one dose or two?
I see it in my life & others..what do you mean?
post 1685335423 06-26-2023, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
I see it in my life & others..what do you mean?
Would you say you're more focused on and critical of a vaccine you didn't receive than one you did receive?
post 1685335463 06-26-2023, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The Jab is pretty much useless 12 months after you get it. You do know this already.

Once again, why do you give a ****, whether or not someone gets the jab? How does it affect you?
Just because antibody levels drop doesn't mean it is useless. Your immune system retains immunological memory.
post 1685336243 06-26-2023, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I see.

So multiple fields conspired through all of mainstream media to take advantage of an ignorant public?
Yes. Have you been living under a rock the past couple of years?
post 1685336393 06-26-2023, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Just because antibody levels drop doesn't mean it is useless. Your immune system retains immunological memory.
It is useless after 12 months, that's why they told people to get the booster shots. And from what I understand, they stopped making new booster shots, so what's the point?

And once again, why do you care if someone chooses to get the jab, or they don't get the jab? How does it impact your life?
post 1685336563 06-26-2023, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
It is useless after 12 months, that's why they told people to get the booster shots. And from what I understand, they stopped making new booster shots, so what's the point?

And once again, why do you care if someone chooses to get the jab, or they don't get the jab? How does it impact your life?
my vaccine protects you, your vaccine protects me
post 1685336863 06-26-2023, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Yes. Have you been living under a rock the past couple of years?
I guess there's benefit to not being ignorant.
post 1685337263 06-26-2023, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's similar, people seem to think vaccines have never been required before covid.
Yes, this is not the first step down the slippery slope. I wonder what the next step will be?
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
post 1685337303 06-26-2023, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Yes, this is not the first step down the slippery slope
At least 30 years ago here.

https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90i01
post 1685338113 06-26-2023, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I guess there's benefit to not being ignorant.
How would you know?
post 1685338353 06-26-2023, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
How would you know?
Being aware of what acquired immunity means, for one. Not taking health or medical advice from journalists or politicians, for another.
post 1685338643 06-26-2023, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Would you say you're more focused on and critical of a vaccine you didn't receive than one you did receive?
No, I’m more critical of a vaccine based on what I see & observe in others & its effects. If we are only going based on what we observe, as that is really the only true basis of reality we have, one cannot say the vaccine (Covid) gives immunity nor is necessarily safe & effective.
post 1685338663 06-26-2023, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
At least 30 years ago here.

https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90i01
Is this your justification for rejecting bodily autonomy
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
post 1685338853 06-26-2023, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
No, I’m more critical of a vaccine based on what I see & observe in others & its effects. If we are only going based on what we observe, as that is really the only true basis of reality we have, one cannot say the vaccine (Covid) gives immunity nor is necessarily safe & effective.
I see.

You might wanna check out the risks and efficacy of shingrix.
post 1685338913 06-26-2023, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Is this your justification for rejecting bodily autonomy
No, it presentation of evidence that requiring vaccines isn't new.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
No, it presentation of evidence that requiring vaccines isn't new.
What does that have to do with respecting peoples rights?
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
post 1685339213 06-26-2023, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
What does that have to do with respecting peoples rights?
Nobody is forced to get vaccinated for anything.

But, if you want to attend public school, there are required precautions.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Nobody is forced to get vaccinated for anything.

But, if you want to attend public school, there are required precautions.
To attend public school, should one be forced to get the Rona jab?
post 1685339493 06-26-2023, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I guess there's benefit to not being ignorant.
The experts themselves said that if you get the jab, you won't get the Rona, did they lie?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Nobody is forced to get vaccinated for anything.

But, if you want to attend public school, there are required precautions.
No one is tied down and injected, true. But we saw a large increase in government imposed punishments against people that dont want this injection, which I can only assume, since you refuse to clearly take a position, you support. I can also only assume you will support greater expansion of these violations of bodily autonomy in the future
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
post 1685339673 06-26-2023, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
To attend public school, should one be forced to get the Rona jab?
Forced? No.
post 1685339723 06-26-2023, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
No one is tied down and injected, true. But we saw a large increase in government imposed punishments against people that dont want this injection, which I can only assume, since you refuse to clearly take a position, you support. I can also only assume you will support greater expansion of these violations of bodily autonomy in the future
Governments took action against kids who weren't vaccinated for polio?

I've seen suspension at the local school level, but nothing that looks like government imposed punishment.

I've stated my position on covid vaccine mandates, repeatedly.

I believe covid vaccine mandates did more harm than good.
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Why did Trump spend billions of our money on failed mRNA covid jabs?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Nobody is forced to get vaccinated for anything.

But, if you want to attend public school, there are required precautions.
down here it is by the state. In PA it says all those vaxxes are required but they can't actually stop the student from being enrolled and attending school if they are not.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I see.

You might wanna check out the risks and efficacy of shingrix.
I’m well aware, I’ve shared before, I would not get Shingles vaccine had I known the side effects it caused.

This goes back to my original statement, are vaccines worth the risk?
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