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post 1685365123 06-26-2023, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Interesting. Source not found.
Maybe reboot your interwebs. Link opens fine here.
post 1685365443 06-26-2023, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Do you think the virus cared if someone was Republican, guy?Also, it was Republican governors and Democratic ones alike who signed the lockdown orders and mandates. So just process that for a second.
Who, me? Not at all.

Libs, on the other hand.....
There isn’t evidence that Black Lives Matter protests have led to a noticeable increase in COVID-19 cases, despite early concerns from health officials.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-covid19-surge

Little Evidence That Protests Spread Coronavirus in US

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...onavirus-in-us

Research Determines Protests Did Not Cause Spike In Coronavirus Cases

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe.../#1db1440a7dac

Black Lives Matter protests did not cause an uptick in covid-19 cases

https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...covid-19-cases

Thousands expected at March on Washington commemorations

https://apnews.com/e99f9bfcca9cb388054486fa41192194

Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus in Denver and other cities, new study finds

https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/p...avirus-spread/

Did Black Lives Matter Protests Actually Reduce Covid-19’s Spread?

https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...vid19s-spread/

BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS ARE HAVING A COUNTERINTUITIVE EFFECT ON COVID-19 SPREAD

https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/co...-protests-link
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post 1685365603 06-26-2023, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Who, me? Not at all.

Libs, on the other hand.....
Trust the Science!
post 1685366233 06-26-2023, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Trust the Science!
Remember how the Rona was killing all the helpless innocent black people?

The Disproportionate Impact of COVID-19 on Racial and Ethnic Minorities in the United States
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32562416/

It hit the pause button for the peaceful protests though.

But it was never political.

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post 1685366443 06-26-2023, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Remember how the Rona was killing all the helpless innocent black people?

The Disproportionate Impact of COVID-19 on Racial and Ethnic Minorities in the United States
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32562416/

It hit the pause button for the peaceful protests though.

But it was never political.

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I think the evidence still supports the claim that racialized communities saw larger impacts of covid.
post 1685366463 06-26-2023, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Remember how the Rona was killing all the helpless innocent black people?

The Disproportionate Impact of COVID-19 on Racial and Ethnic Minorities in the United States
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32562416/

It hit the pause button for the peaceful protests though.

But it was never political.

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It supposedly effected them more because of our racist healthcare system.......
post 1685366633 06-26-2023, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I think the evidence still supports the claim that racialized communities saw larger impacts of covid.
Except when they didn't.
There isn’t evidence that Black Lives Matter protests have led to a noticeable increase in COVID-19 cases, despite early concerns from health officials.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-covid19-surge

Little Evidence That Protests Spread Coronavirus in US

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...onavirus-in-us

Research Determines Protests Did Not Cause Spike In Coronavirus Cases

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe.../#1db1440a7dac

Black Lives Matter protests did not cause an uptick in covid-19 cases

https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...covid-19-cases

Thousands expected at March on Washington commemorations

https://apnews.com/e99f9bfcca9cb388054486fa41192194

Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus in Denver and other cities, new study finds

https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/p...avirus-spread/

Did Black Lives Matter Protests Actually Reduce Covid-19’s Spread?

https://www.iflscience.com/health-an...vid19s-spread/

BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS ARE HAVING A COUNTERINTUITIVE EFFECT ON COVID-19 SPREAD

https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/co...-protests-link
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post 1685366723 06-26-2023, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Except when it didn't.
I think you're conflating evidence with media and political messaging.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
It supposedly effected them more because of our racist healthcare system.......
That might be part of it, but not all of it.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
That might be part of it, but not all of it.
Our healthcare system is racist now? You gonna throw some facts at us or just do the usual, "It just is."
post 1685367063 06-26-2023, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I think you're conflating evidence with media and political messaging.
Maybe..

But I didn't see a single one of you Ronaholic fux disagree with any of that when it was happening. But that also raises a question though... doesn't it.

Why?

Why are you queefing at me about conflating shiit? I'm just the messenger bro... I'm not conflating anything. And then there's this.
Suddenly, Public Health Officials Say Social Justice Matters More Than Social Distance

“We should always evaluate the risks and benefits of efforts to control the virus,” Jennifer Nuzzo, aJohns Hopkins epidemiologist, tweeted on Tuesday. “In this moment the public health risks of not protesting to demand an end to systemic racism greatly exceed the harms of the virus.”

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...rotests-301534
So what do you make of that?

Greatly exceeds the harms of the virus...

A literal EPIDEMILOGIST from none other than THE Johns Hopkins Hospital says social justice > your Rona.
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post 1685367093 06-26-2023, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
lmao the right was the side pushing for vaccines

that was back when they were educated
Were they dumb enough to think walmart has a virus killing hvac system
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
post 1685367373 06-26-2023, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Our healthcare system is racist now? You gonna throw some facts at us or just do the usual, "It just is."
There is quite a bit of evidence to support the notion of systemic bias in healthcare. Here and there.
post 1685367463 06-26-2023, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Maybe..

But I didn't see a single one of you Ronaholic fux disagree with any of that when it was happening. But that also raises a question though... doesn't it.

Why?

Why are you queefing at me about conflating shiit? I'm just the messenger bro... I'm not conflating anything. And then there's this.



So what do you make of that?

Greatly exceeds the harms of the virus...

A literal EPIDEMILOGIST from none other than THE Johns Hopkins Hospital says social justice > your Rona.
Politico.com?
post 1685367783 06-26-2023, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Were they dumb enough to think walmart has a virus killing hvac system
I dunno what Walmart has, but HEPA's are highly effective even though they aren't "virus killing".
post 1685372663 06-26-2023, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
LOL @ J.L.C. doubling down on Walmarts having special anti covid filtration in their HVAC systems.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I dunno what Walmart has
D'oh
post 1685373063 06-26-2023, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So you confirm that once again, you posted something of zero relevance?

yes or no answer please ( anything other than a yes or no answer will be considered a yes )
Despite the false dichotomy lure, my point was that HVAC systems can be effective without being "virus killing".
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
It doesn't reduce the spread though. ****s sake Wincel, you do know this......right?
Incorrect. On a population level, the vaccines help reduce convalescence time. That means fewer people would be infectious collectively at a given time. It substantially reduces the spread.

Perhaps a review of elementary epidemiology would be helpful for you. I understand you'd have to pencil it in between donut runs, planting drugs, beating minorities, and accepting sexual favors from young woman in exchange for dropping parking tickets. But ever the optimist, I believe you can do it, Dave!
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Incorrect. On a population level, the vaccines help reduce convalescence time. That means fewer people would be infectious collectively at a given time. It substantially reduces the spread.
... infectious people would be staying at home. what difference would it make in terms of spreading disease if they were at home for 5 days or 10 days? assuming your sourceless claim has any merit, which it doesn't, because it can't be proven.


guys, ^^ this is the retard you claim is an intelligent troll? lmfao what.
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
... infectious people would be staying at home. what difference would it make in terms of spreading disease if they were at home for 5 days or 10 days? assuming your sourceless claim has any merit, which it doesn't, because it can't be proven.


guys, ^^ this is the retard you claim is an intelligent troll? lmfao what.
SEIR models.
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
... infectious people would be staying at home. what difference would it make in terms of spreading disease if they were at home for 5 days or 10 days? assuming your sourceless claim has any merit, which it doesn't, because it can't be proven.


guys, ^^ this is the retard you claim is an intelligent troll? lmfao what.
It does. Do you really not understand how vaccination works? It makes a huge difference to reduce the number of days they spend recovering as they are infectious during that period. Again, a review of elementary epidemiology is in order. Good luck.
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
It does. Do you really not understand how vaccination works? It makes a huge difference to reduce the number of days they spend recovering as they are infectious during that period. Again, a review of elementary epidemiology is in order. Good luck.
Chris Christie the diabetic overweight Governor of NJ beat it over the fuhking weekend lol (before vaccines were released), and that was alpha version.

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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
It does. Do you really not understand how vaccination works? It makes a huge difference to reduce the number of days they spend recovering as they are infectious during that period. Again, a review of elementary epidemiology is in order. Good luck.
ok. and since they would be at home self isolating, who additional are they infecting if they're home for 10 days instead of 5? how are they coming in contact with these people?
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
ok. and since they would be at home self isolating, who additional are they infecting if they're home for 10 days instead of 5? how are they coming in contact with these people?
Your faith in people to self isolate is amusing. For the population, reducing the infectious period reduces the spread. Fewer days being infectious implies fewer average contacts, which in turn implies less spread in the population.
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Your faith in people to self isolate is amusing.
I thought if you're vaccinated though, you can't spread covid?
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
I thought if you're vaccinated though, you can't spread covid?
For the original and early strains. Be specific. (Very tired of this.)
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
For the original and early strains. Be specific. (Very tired of this.)
Oh really? Well here's a clip of Fauci in July 2021 saying vaccinated idiots can transmit the virus. Very first 15 seconds. The vaccines were first released in December of 2020 and delta only started to hit during Summer 2021.



Are you calling Fauci a liar and denying science?

Dumbfuk.

I'm surprised you're tired of anything, all you do is sit at home and post on forums. Stop acting impatient, you have nothing else going on in life so you can sit here all day and night and try to act smart by covering up your stupidity with every post.
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
Oh really? Well here's a clip of Fauci in July 2021 saying vaccinated idiots can transmit the virus. Very first 15 seconds. The vaccines were first released in December of 2020 and delta only started to hit during Summer 2021.



Are you calling Fauci a liar and denying science?

Dumbfuk.
I'm going to ignore the "dumbfuk" comment. Please review how many different variants there were between when the vaccines came out and when he made that statement. Nope, what Fauci said is correct and completely consistent with what I said.
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
I'm going to ignore the "dumbfuk" comment. Please review how many different variants there were between when the vaccines came out and when he made that statement. Nope, what Fauci said is correct and completely consistent with what I said.
So basically what you're saying is, because coronaviruses are so plentiful in their variants, vaccination was pointless because you can't vaccinate against all variants. Thanks for confirming.

For a guy who claims to be so intelligent, imagine being stupid enough to get a vaccine for a single variant even though there's plenty of others that the vaccine wont protect against. JFLOL.

You just keep burying yourself deeper and deeper.
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
So basically what you're saying is, because coronaviruses are so plentiful in their variants, vaccination was pointless because you can't vaccinate against all variants. Thanks for confirming.

For a guy who claims to be so intelligent, imagine being stupid enough to get a vaccine for a single variant even though there's plenty of others that the vaccine wont protect against. JFLOL.
No. For all variants, vaccination has been seen to substantially reduce severe illness and death, and as I said, it reduces spread in the population. There is never an advantage to exposing yourself to the virus over one of the vaccines.

Again, you insult my intelligence when it is clear you do not understand how the immune system works. What is your area? Are you an engineer? You understand optimization right? Review how your immune system works. Would you rather start far from an optimum in your search or closer to one?
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