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post 1685459833 06-28-2023, 08:07 AM
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I found some news articles. It seems OP badly mischaractertized the legislation. The bill allows children from ages 12-17 to get mental health counseling without parental consent or parental notification. That's really it. There is nothing about taking children from parents' custody; nothing about letting children get sex-changes without parental consent

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...e/11680787002/


https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...202320240AB665
post 1685459963 06-28-2023, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By BFast55⏩
Abuse is now being broadened to include parents that refuse to affirm their child's chosen identity.
Link to where this has actually been codified into law?
post 1685460023 06-28-2023, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond⏩
I found some news articles. It seems OP badly mischaractertized the legislation. The bill allows children from ages 12-17 to get mental health counseling without parental consent or parental notification. That's really it. There is nothing about taking children from parents' custody; nothing about letting children get sex-changes without parental consent

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...e/11680787002/


https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...202320240AB665
The timing is suspect. We suddenly gonna care about minor's mental health at the same time it is becoming more popular to affirm children's trans identity without parental consent or knowledge. Right now, it is legally dubious for teachers/adults to secretly consult and encourage minors to transition. The ground work is being laid.
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post 1685460173 06-28-2023, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Link to where this has actually been codified into law?
I didn't say it was codified into law. I said it's commonly being spoken about in those terms. When enough people literally think dead naming is violence or some grave sin. That is a violent act to not use someone's preferred pronouns, that they just came up with last week.
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post 1685460293 06-28-2023, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted By BFast55⏩
The timing is suspect. We suddenly gonna care about minor's mental health at the same time it is becoming more popular to affirm children's trans identity without parental consent or knowledge. Right now, it is legally dubious for teachers/adults to secretly consult and encourage minors to transition. The ground work is being laid.
It's not secret though. It just let's kids 12 and older have a say in whether their parents are involved in their counselling. I dunno why the focus is solely on the trans boogeyman when today's youth are facing other challenges with much higher frequency.
post 1685460603 06-28-2023, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By BFast55⏩
I didn't say it was codified into law. I said it's commonly being spoken about in those terms. When enough people literally think dead naming is violence or some grave sin. That is a violent act to not use someone's preferred pronouns, that they just came up with last week.
You made a statement regarding the definition of abuse in response to a post about the contents of legislation.

Yeah, people "commonly speak" about all sorts of misguided, retarded chit, the OP being a prime example, but it rarely has anything to do with reality.
post 1685460903 06-28-2023, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted By BFast55⏩
Wow you seem open to honest discussion. I can't even imagine why you are going to such great lengths to defend this. You use child abuse as a reason, as though no system already exists to deal with it.
Huge difference between taking kids away and allowing them to get mental health services.
post 1685460993 06-28-2023, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond⏩
I found some news articles. It seems OP badly mischaractertized the legislation. The bill allows children from ages 12-17 to get mental health counseling without parental consent or parental notification. That's really it. There is nothing about taking children from parents' custody; nothing about letting children get sex-changes without parental consent

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...e/11680787002/


https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...202320240AB665
OFC he did. Like I said, he accuses others of being groomers, but really, he doesn't want his own suicidal daughter to get help because he molests her. Sick.
post 1685461103 06-28-2023, 08:31 AM
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Take their children?

You mean traffic their children
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post 1685461133 06-28-2023, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By BFast55⏩
Ok, fair enough. Sound reasonable right?
However consider the following:
Abuse is now being broadened to include parents that refuse to affirm their child's chosen identity. That deny puberty blockers and/or surgery to their child.
Also, I have a hard time believing children younger than 12 seek out any mental heath without parent's involvement. Mind you that "mental health" is also now commonly described to include trans-affirming care.
You seem intentionally obtuse.
That is pretty abusive.
post 1685466983 06-28-2023, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillick_competence

https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2000/...nt-health-care

Minors being able to give consent for certain healthcare decisions judged case-by-case is not a new thing at all in medical law in either the US or elsewhere in the world. It is really dependent on the case, and the child in question.




That your empty bald dome can't comprehend this is not anyone else's problem.
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post 1685467143 06-28-2023, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
I'm sure Democrat Dr John Money would be proud of them
nobody knows or cares who that is boomer
post 1685470493 06-28-2023, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
nobody knows or cares who that is boomer
Was likely your father which would explain how you have turned out

https://authorschoice.org/2015/08/25...ohn-colapinto/
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post 1685470693 06-28-2023, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
Was likely your father which would explain how you have turned out

https://authorschoice.org/2015/08/25...ohn-colapinto/
Not clicking ur links broseph.
post 1685478943 06-28-2023, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
That is pretty abusive.
You believe parents not allowing their 10 year olds to have breast tissue removed/sex change hormones is abusive to the child?
post 1685479783 06-28-2023, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
You believe parents not allowing their 10 year olds to have breast tissue removed/sex change hormones is abusive to the child?
It doesn't look like this legislation is about that
post 1685479933 06-28-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It doesn't look like this legislation is about that
I had a question after reading his response to a post he quoted.

Post #70 (nothing to do about current legislation in OP)
post 1685480093 06-28-2023, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
I had a question after reading his response to a post he quoted.

Post #70 (nothing to do about current legislation in OP)
So like a non-sequitur?
post 1685480353 06-28-2023, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
So like a non-sequitur?
Do you agree with Putinist(as how I interpreted his response)

That being, parents who dont allow their children to take sex changing hormones/remove breast tissue etc are abusive?
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Do you agree with Putinist(as how I interpreted his response)

That being, parents who dont allow their children to take sex changing hormones/remove breast tissue etc are abusive?
Where has the age of consent for those procedures been changed?
post 1685480603 06-28-2023, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Where has the age of consent for those procedures been changed?
Unless stated otherwise, I'll take that as a yes.
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Not clicking ur links broseph.
Not surprised. Most ped0 Phil's s are embarrassed when they read about their actions
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I'm not opposed to kids having access to healthcare, mental or physical.
Of course you're not. Transgender surgery without the knowledge or consent of parents is not healthcare and that is where the perverted libs attempt to twist and force ideologies to take advantage of children. No shock there.
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OP mad he can't rape his son anymore.....





Disgusting.
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Originally Posted By Mark1T⏩
Of course you're not. Transgender surgery without the knowledge or consent of parents is not healthcare and that is where the perverted libs attempt to twist and force ideologies to take advantage of children. No shock there.
Where is that in the legislation?
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Disturbing details uncovered by internet sleuths found that a surgeon infamous for advertising invasive "gender affirming" procedures on TikTok removed the breasts of a 13 year old girl, who is now also pursuing a hysterectomy at age 15.

Dr. Sidhbh Gallagher, a Miami-based plastic surgeon, rose to internet fame after making quirky TikToks aimed at minors, primarily girls, pursuing "gender affirming" procedures. She became most associated with her infamous catchphrase – "yeeting the teets" – a flippant, joking way to refer to performing cosmetic mastectomies, or breast removals, to her primarily underage female audience.

According to JLC/Putinist it's child abuse for parents to oppose their child having their breast tissue removed.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Disturbing details uncovered by internet sleuths found that a surgeon infamous for advertising invasive "gender affirming" procedures on TikTok removed the breasts of a 13 year old girl, who is now also pursuing a hysterectomy at age 15.

Dr. Sidhbh Gallagher, a Miami-based plastic surgeon, rose to internet fame after making quirky TikToks aimed at minors, primarily girls, pursuing "gender affirming" procedures. She became most associated with her infamous catchphrase – "yeeting the teets" – a flippant, joking way to refer to performing cosmetic mastectomies, or breast removals, to her primarily underage female audience.

According to JLC/Putinist it's child abuse for parents to oppose their child having their breast tissue removed.
Great link!

Lots of detail regarding the parents
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Great link!

Lots of detail regarding the parents
Look her up.

There are quite a few clinics performing trans surgeries on children, I believe the Mayo Clinic may be one of them??

In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17

At least 14,726 minors started hormone treatment with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2017 through 2021

These medical treatments don’t begin until the onset of puberty, typically around age 10 or 11.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Look her up.

There are quite a few clinics performing trans surgeries on children, I believe the Mayo Clinic may be one of them??

In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17

At least 14,726 minors started hormone treatment with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2017 through 2021
He won't because he'd rather stick his head in the sand and act stupid.

Here you go JFC...

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p...s-dr-gallagher

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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Look her up.

There are quite a few clinics performing trans surgeries on children, I believe the Mayo Clinic may be one of them??

In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17

At least 14,726 minors started hormone treatment with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2017 through 2021

These medical treatments don’t begin until the onset of puberty, typically around age 10 or 11.
Where does it say the procedures were against parents wishes and/or without consent?

Says there was a prior diagnosis rather than stolen from parents on a whim.
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