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06-28-2023, 11:09 PM
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I've measured my test every quarter for the past year. Am 42yo. Results inside.
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Ok fine, hover.
Q3 2022: 853 ng/dL
Q4 2022: 761 ng/dL
Q1 2023: 854 ng/dL
Q2 2023: 834 ng/dL
Bloods were always drawn at the same time, 8am to 9am ish. Obviously natty, but for age 42 I am pretty happy. The average test level for a man at that age is 375 ng/dL.

There's a belief in the paleo community that testosterone, bone density, cholesterol health etc DOESN'T actually degrade with age, at least not naturally, and that it's a relatively recent phenomenon related to post-industrial (or post-agricultural-revolution) diets & lifestyles. Mark Sisson, who wrote several paleo cookbooks, insists that in the caveman era, men retained the same test levels from roughly age 20 to the moment of their death around age 65 or so.
I want to bee leaf.
For what it's worth, my workout program is 3 day split (1 day full body, 1 day just shoulders, 1 day cardio) with occasional rest days. My diet philosophy is "paleo at home, anything goes at restaurants, but most meals prepped at home". At least 2 eggs every morning, sometimes 5 even. Only supps I take are vitamin D pills and zinc.
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Ok fine, hover.
Q3 2022: 853 ng/dL
Q4 2022: 761 ng/dL
Q1 2023: 854 ng/dL
Q2 2023: 834 ng/dL
Bloods were always drawn at the same time, 8am to 9am ish. Obviously natty, but for age 42 I am pretty happy. The average test level for a man at that age is 375 ng/dL.

There's a belief in the paleo community that testosterone, bone density, cholesterol health etc DOESN'T actually degrade with age, at least not naturally, and that it's a relatively recent phenomenon related to post-industrial (or post-agricultural-revolution) diets & lifestyles. Mark Sisson, who wrote several paleo cookbooks, insists that in the caveman era, men retained the same test levels from roughly age 20 to the moment of their death around age 65 or so.
I want to bee leaf.
For what it's worth, my workout program is 3 day split (1 day full body, 1 day just shoulders, 1 day cardio) with occasional rest days. My diet philosophy is "paleo at home, anything goes at restaurants, but most meals prepped at home". At least 2 eggs every morning, sometimes 5 even. Only supps I take are vitamin D pills and zinc.
We're all gonna make it bros
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06-28-2023, 11:17 PM
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How much beef you eat?
06-28-2023, 11:18 PM
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What's your bf %
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06-28-2023, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted By robertbaggiojr⏩
I try to eat red meat at least once every 2 days. In a perfect world I'd eat a small portion of steak every single day.How much beef you eat?
But a direct answer to your question is 1/2 lb of beef minimum erry two days. I'll sometimes ask myself "Did I eat any red meat yesterday? Then I better have some today." Always grass-fed.
I live in Thailand, btw. Moved here back in February. So I'll try to eat shrimp (for the good cholesterol) if I don't get my hands on any beef.
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06-28-2023, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted By TheManRightHere⏩
Realistically, about 15-17%.What's your bf %
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06-28-2023, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern⏩
I think fatcels and twinks are behind the low T epidemicRealistically, about 15-17%.
06-29-2023, 12:00 AM
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im 700 rn nearly a year after cooming off TRT , where i was 1200
cant lie the energy and drive was insane but truth is TRT ethers your downstream hormones and neurochemicals
will get serious about diet and onto vit D and tongkat and should be able to push 800-900 natty
im 700 rn nearly a year after cooming off TRT , where i was 1200
cant lie the energy and drive was insane but truth is TRT ethers your downstream hormones and neurochemicals
will get serious about diet and onto vit D and tongkat and should be able to push 800-900 natty
06-29-2023, 12:11 AM
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I got tested a few days ago at 39 - total test was 20.0 nmol/L which apparently converts to 576 ng/dl
Free test was 479.1 pmol/L
I'm riding a bike as of Saturday; got it all sorted
Free test was 479.1 pmol/L
I'm riding a bike as of Saturday; got it all sorted
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06-29-2023, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted By TheManRightHere⏩
There's a LOT of factors at play here. I don't ever heat plastic or let hot food & plastic touch, and I try to not drink water from plastic containers. When plastic gets in the digestive system & blood stream it acts as xenoestrogens and lowers your natty test.I think fatcels and twinks are behind the low T epidemic
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06-29-2023, 04:23 AM
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I remember your Hair threads op.
Which begs the question - no TRT whatsoever correct?
If yes, do you eat carbs on your paleo diet?
Which begs the question - no TRT whatsoever correct?
If yes, do you eat carbs on your paleo diet?
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Originally Posted By DuncSurf⏩
I fuked up with SARMs last year. Not my proudest moment.lmfao
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06-29-2023, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
funny how you make fun of a guy when you have the exact same problem thoughI fuked up with SARMs last year. Not my proudest moment.
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1684766113
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Originally Posted By DuncSurf⏩
I'm fixing it with test Mr Stalkerfunny how you make fun of a guy when you have the exact same problem though
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I mean, compared to the average male it looks high and solid as fuk.
BUT you never tested your levels when you were at your peak which would give you a better idea on if your levels have dropped significantly or not.
BUT you never tested your levels when you were at your peak which would give you a better idea on if your levels have dropped significantly or not.
There is but one path....we kill them all.
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Originally Posted By DuncSurf⏩
First blood panel I've ever done, Mr Stalker - despite feeling fine and still making gains I got this done to establish a baseline before I hop on cycle.You missed my point goofball, thats like calling someone a fatass when you're 400 pounds
I hope that's OK Mr Stalker - but based on old puffy tits lack of progress over 3 years I'd say his test levels are a third of mine.
If I've triggered you in any way I sincerely apologise

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06-29-2023, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern⏩
Does this make an actual measurable difference?There's a LOT of factors at play here. I don't ever heat plastic or let hot food & plastic touch, and I try to not drink water from plastic containers. When plastic gets in the digestive system & blood stream it acts as xenoestrogens and lowers your natty test.
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Originally Posted By Tuga88⏩
Your peak is in am ,no??I mean, compared to the average male it looks high and solid as fuk.
BUT you never tested your levels when you were at your peak which would give you a better idea on if your levels have dropped significantly or not.
BUT you never tested your levels when you were at your peak which would give you a better idea on if your levels have dropped significantly or not.
I've always wondered why you wouldn't test at your low point of the day
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
WowYour peak is in am ,no??
I've always wondered why you wouldn't test at your low point of the day
I've always wondered why you wouldn't test at your low point of the day
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