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post 1685547773 06-29-2023, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Where does it say the procedures were against parents wishes and/or without consent?

Says there was a prior diagnosis rather than stolen from parents on a whim.
When did I say they were? The parents are on board with mutating their children...based solely on the wishes of 10 year olds. That makes sense right??

Bring your ten year old to school with their face covered in a tat or amputate their arm because they wanted it and see who shows up at your door 15 minutes later.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
When did I say they were? The parents are on board with mutating their children...based solely on the wishes of 10 year olds. That makes sense right??

Bring your ten year old to school with their face covered in a tat or amputate their arm because they wanted it and see who shows up at your door 15 minutes later.
Where are you seeing 10 year olds?

What's are you seeing 10 year olds without parents' knowledge or consent?

It sounds like you're angry about something you made up.
post 1685548783 06-29-2023, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Where are you seeing 10 year olds?

What's are you seeing 10 year olds without parents' knowledge or consent?

It sounds like you're angry about something you made up.
10 years olds are being prescribed sex changing hormones. Thats fact.

I never mentioned once trans surgeries being performed without parental consent(although I would imagine in a divorce both wouldn't be needed?)

Are you making the case that trans surgeries are not being performed on minors or since that argument has been debunked, now moved to the parental consent portion to justify the mutilation of children?

A top doctor at a gender clinic in Philadelphia has come under fire for claiming age is just 'a number' — in defense of performing sex change surgery on minors.

In a video from 2020, Dr Nadia Dowshen, co-director of the Gender and Sexuality Development Clinic, suggested a child's maturity was 'more important' than exact age.

She admitted doctors at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia performed 'top surgery' on patients as young as 14, which involves removing or implanting breasts.
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We all know what this law is aimed at with trannies being the "in fashion" topic right now. It's got nothing to do with the mental health of the child or even the children's welfare.

Once the teachers have spent years telling and touching little kids they hope for total confusion in the child's minds and then off to the doctor who will happily cut them up
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post 1685549763 06-29-2023, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
10 years olds are being prescribed sex changing hormones. Thats fact.

I never mentioned once trans surgeries being performed without parental consent(although I would imagine in a divorce both wouldn't be needed?)

Are you making the case that trans surgeries are not being performed on minors or since that argument has been debunked, now moved to the parental consent portion to justify the mutilation of children?

A top doctor at a gender clinic in Philadelphia has come under fire for claiming age is just 'a number' — in defense of performing sex change surgery on minors.

In a video from 2020, Dr Nadia Dowshen, co-director of the Gender and Sexuality Development Clinic, suggested a child's maturity was 'more important' than exact age.

She admitted doctors at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia performed 'top surgery' on patients as young as 14, which involves removing or implanting breasts.
"As young as 14".

The anger was about this happening without parents' knowledge or consent, and/or children being taken away from parents who don't consent.

Where is that occurring?
post 1685549923 06-29-2023, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
10 years olds are being prescribed sex changing hormones. Thats fact.

I never mentioned once trans surgeries being performed without parental consent(although I would imagine in a divorce both wouldn't be needed?)

Are you making the case that trans surgeries are not being performed on minors or since that argument has been debunked, now moved to the parental consent portion to justify the mutilation of children?

A top doctor at a gender clinic in Philadelphia has come under fire for claiming age is just 'a number' — in defense of performing sex change surgery on minors.

In a video from 2020, Dr Nadia Dowshen, co-director of the Gender and Sexuality Development Clinic, suggested a child's maturity was 'more important' than exact age.

She admitted doctors at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia performed 'top surgery' on patients as young as 14, which involves removing or implanting breasts.
Yea not personally too thrilled about surgeries being available for kids that young simply because it is mostly irreversible. A 14 year old shouldn't really care about or need breasts either. I'm ok with gender affirmation like identifying as the other gender and dressing differently. I'm ok with hormones during like late puberty, and maybe only actual surgeries as adults. I think that's probably a good place to set it.
post 1685550323 06-29-2023, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Yea not personally too thrilled about surgeries being available for kids that young simply because it is mostly irreversible. A 14 year old shouldn't really care about or need breasts either. I'm ok with gender affirmation like identifying as the other gender and dressing differently. I'm ok with hormones during like late puberty, and maybe only actual surgeries as adults. I think that's probably a good place to set it.
I agree with this position.

I disagree with making things up to get angry.
post 1685550473 06-29-2023, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I agree with this position.

I disagree with making things up to get angry.
Yea lol

These guys usually misrepresent or distort a lot.
post 1685550693 06-29-2023, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Yea not personally too thrilled about surgeries being available for kids that young simply because it is mostly irreversible. A 14 year old shouldn't really care about or need breasts either.I'm ok with gender affirmation like identifying as the other gender and dressing differently. I'm ok with hormones during like late puberty, and maybe only actual surgeries as adults. I think that's probably a good place to set it.
Hard to believe there's actually truly evil and retarded people out there. I'd support the death penalty for any parent allowing for this evil chit being done to their kids.
post 1685555223 06-29-2023, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Hard to believe there's actually truly evil and retarded people out there. I'd support the death penalty for any parent allowing for this evil chit being done to their kids.
I thought the anger is regarding governments taking children away from their parents to turn them trans against parents' will?
post 1685557843 06-29-2023, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
"As young as 14".

The anger was about this happening without parents' knowledge or consent, and/or children being taken away from parents who don't consent.

Where is that occurring?
10 for life changing sex hormones that can make one sterile.

None of my posts had to with parental consent or kids being taken away from their parents. Thats was never part of my argument as IMO thats irrelevant... but you knew that already.

I asked you a simple question, you refused to answer and went in circles....for obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
10 for life changing sex hormones that can make one sterile.

None of my posts had to with parental consent or kids being taken away from their parents. Thats was never part of my argument as IMO thats irrelevant... but you knew that already.

I asked you a simple question, you refused to answer and went in circles....for obvious reasons.
Check out the title of the thread.

Where are the reports of 10 year olds getting hormones without parents' knowledge or consent? Or the laws enabling that?
post 1685596633 06-30-2023, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
10 for life changing sex hormones that can make one sterile.

None of my posts had to with parental consent or kids being taken away from their parents. Thats was never part of my argument as IMO thats irrelevant... but you knew that already.

I asked you a simple question, you refused to answer and went in circles....for obvious reasons.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Check out the title of the thread.

Where are the reports of 10 year olds getting hormones without parents' knowledge or consent?Or the laws enabling that?
BOLD: Seriously, are you fuken retarded??

Not a single one of my posts ITT have anything to do with parental consent. The OP is 100 posts long, meaning, like any normal thread that long, there are ten different conversation happening within this thread, many unrelated to the actual OP.

You keep bringing up this false parental consent narrative(which I never made) in order to divert and not admit that.....yes, Rikter, I believe 10 year old children should have the right to take trans drugs.

"Puberty blockers can be used to delay the changes of puberty in transgender and gender-diverse youth who have started puberty."

"When does treatment usually start and end?

In general, puberty begins around age 10 or 11, though it may start earlier or later."

PS, JLC youre not a white supremacist if you believe children should not be taking trans drugs or having trans surgeries. However, if you believe they should, then there's a 90% chance you have or are currently raping children.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
BOLD: Seriously, are you fuken retarded??

Not a single one of my posts ITT have anything to do with parental consent. The OP is 100 posts long, meaning, like any normal thread that long, there are ten different conversation happening within this thread, many unrelated to the actual OP.

You keep bringing up this false parental consent narrative(which I never made) in order to divert and not admit that.....yes, Rikter, I believe 10 year old children should have the right to take trans drugs.

"Puberty blockers can be used to delay the changes of puberty in transgender and gender-diverse youth who have started puberty."

"When does treatment usually start and end?

In general, puberty begins around age 10 or 11, though it may start earlier or later."

PS, JLC youre not a white supremacist if you believe children should not be taking trans drugs or having trans surgeries. However, if you believe they should, then there's a 90% chance you have or are currently raping children.
You keep bringing up 10 year olds but haven't shown any cases of 10 year olds that are presumably the basis of the outrage.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You keep bringing up 10 year olds but haven't shown any cases of 10 year olds that are presumably the basis of the outrage.
Again, are you fuken retarded??? Im 100 srs.

The bold (Mayo Clinic) recommending trans drugs be prescribed at puberty, around ten years of age...."or earlier." Thats fact.

That said, this is my last response to you, as once someone has been shown to be as intellectually dishonest as much as you have been in our exchanges, I generally stop beating that dead horse and go about my day and let rational people who may happen to read our exchanges decide for themselves.

So, the last word is yours, enjoy and have a great weekend.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You keep bringing up 10 year olds but haven't shown any cases of 10 year olds that are presumably the basis of the outrage.
How about an 11yr old?

"Data were drawn from 30 parents of 30 trans children and adolescents who at time of interview, were an average age of 11 years old".

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/h...ansgender.html
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10....35584221100591

Average age of 11?? But that could mean some of them were younger than 11 though... right?

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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
How about an 11yr old?

"Data were drawn from 30 parents of 30 trans children and adolescents who at time of interview, were an average age of 11 years old".

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/h...ansgender.html
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10....35584221100591

Average age of 11?? But that could mean some of them were younger than 11 though... right?

In before semeantics
In before acting stupid
"Data were drawn from 30 parents..."
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
"Data were drawn from 30 parents..."
...30parents of30trans children and adolescents who at time of interview, were an average age of 11 years old.

You asked for an example and you were given30of them.

Also.....
Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
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Called it.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
...30parents of30trans children and adolescents who at time of interview, were an average age of 11 years old.

You asked for an example and you were given30of them.

Also.....



Called it.
Recall
Originally Posted By Putinist⏩
Yea not personally too thrilled about surgeries being available for kids that young simply because it is mostly irreversible. A 14 year old shouldn't really care about or need breasts either. I'm ok with gender affirmation like identifying as the other gender and dressing differently. I'm ok with hormones during like late puberty, and maybe only actual surgeries as adults. I think that's probably a good place to set it.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I agree with this position.

I disagree with making things up to get angry.
How'd they get the data from parents who didn't know about it or had their kids taken away for not allowing it?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Recall
No... recall.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You keep bringing up 10 year olds but haven't shown any cases of 10 year olds that are presumably the basis of the outrage.
10yr olds are getting hormone blockers whether you have the intellectual integrity to admit it or not.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
No... recall.



10yr olds are getting hormone blockers whether you have the intellectual integrity to admit it or not.
I know some are. But not without parental involvement and consent.

Which doesn't at all mean I support it as a general, first order of treatment.
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