This guy is thorough. And boring. Had to FF.



Embed is disabled:
https://youtu.be/2foYhMX8mMc


Cliffs:

- did labs before and after

- labs after were better for HDL/LDL and the specific particle makeup







Caveat:

He was eating grass fed beef with mainly non starchy vegetables, a little potato and some avocado- not Five Guys + Fries.

he ate them without the bun

Still bald and has a terrible skull

my last diet i swapped from chicken/turkey to 93% ground beef and lean steaks. might die a few years earlier but my test was through the fukkin roof the entire cut.

This. Imagine beefmaxxing when you’re bald and gay alien skull.

Adunnbelievit.

Could be due to many other factors. He probably dropped weight on the process and thats why his labs improved. It would be an interesting experiment to make, if you are on a healthy diet like meat, avocado, potatoes, fruit, veggies etc but on a surplus, compare those labs to one month of being on a calorie deficit of eating twinkies and mcdonalds.

I think many people would be surprised.

That guy's a moron who's twenty years behind on the science. His ldl before was horrendous btw, and particle size is irrelevant if apo-b is high (which he didn't test for).

He was an Olympic athlete, steroids they took back in the day caused hair problems and other stuff.

You’re a phucking moron

It’s sad that nutrition has become so political. Right winger have associated red meat with masculinity and will use every idiot’s anecdote to justify their diet


I know you have the attention span of a flee and your source of information is Twitter threads and YouTube shorts. Educate yourself a bit

https://www.barbellmedicine.com/blog...at-and-health/


Even Stan Efferding has shifted his stance on high saturated fat red meat:

This guy probably chits once a week

Not politically motivated. I've believed for a long time that red meat gets demonized based on self-reported diets [servings of red meat per day/week/etc.] which disregard the quality of the meat and any effects of the other foods which most often are eaten with red meat in the US [bread, condiments, cheese, french fries, soda]. I don't believe that saturated fat is the big baddie- I think it is an overabundance of omega 6 [including in grain fed beef], seed oils, and other inflammatory foods; not good quality red meat and plant foods.

I followed the vertical diet when the miscer Arn coached me to a 3 plate bench back in 2018. Was eating a pound of red meat a day

My ldl in Dec 2018 was 147. I reduced red meat to 1-2 servings a week and my ldl is consistently under 90

There’s literally nothing wrong with seed oils. It’s a bs scare tactic by frauds like Paul Saladino and Liver King




Since you’re on social media constantly, here’s Alan Aragon:

“I believe..” no one cares what you believe in, you’re a deranged unemployed moron that sits on twitter fingering yourself to Elon Musk’s tweets

There are RCTs which clearly show that saturated fat raises ldl and apo-b, both linked causally to CVD. The science is clear at this point, it's only youtube personalities battling it.

Gay vegan spotted, red meat and saturated fat in any amounts is totally fine, and can be very beneficial, assuming calories are controlled.

You don’t know anything, don’t bother responding, nobody’s gonna read it, no one cares, go eat a steak and shut the **** up

There you go, your typical low IQ retard with his estrogen soaked response

When did I say I don’t eat red meat you illiterate fuk?

Hexane is bad mmmkay? Alan Aragon said that olive oil would be quite a bit superior to seed oils,

There are entire books written, and multi hour long lectures by PhD‘s, who show in greatest detail what specifically is wrong with seed oils, no one stopping you, continue to eat your garbage,

Lmao


This is what a brainwashed *** looks like


Not a single health OUTCOME RCT shows seed oils are bad, they’re great for your health

Keep jerking off to Paul saladino’s shirtless videos you little non lifting twink

Color me highly skeptical on seed oils suddenly being okay given how many things I've come across re: heat treatment, chemical deoderizers, preservatives, acrylamide, omega 6 vs. omega 3 balance.

Not sure why you're so mad. True, I don't have paid employment ATM. I stream YT on tv because I prefer it to most other options and I scroll twitter, usually once a day.
Unaware. I don't follow nutrition that closely and I'm not super obsessive about what I do or don't eat. Life is too short.

I don't believe that red meat alone is somehow dangerous. Are some people more prone to high cholesterol? Yes.

Is heart disease caused by eating saturated fats [meat, butter, eggs, etc.]?



^^^
Beef consumption peaked in the 70s. Chicken consumption has surpassed beef and turkey consumption has also increased.

Butter consumption has decreased also.

Quite the opposite, they’re suddenly evil and the root cause of all health problems

It’s all good though, you’re too far gone in your bias. Low iq folks have this “cringe” reaction to information that challenges their bias, which is clearly what happens to the Joe Rogan crowd when confronted with data on seed oils

wtf is #2 ground beef?

lean?

here its labeled as extra lean, lean, regular and maybe there is one more under regular... but not really sure.

What data?

So far you haven't given any. Unless I missed it.

I wasn't looking to start a beef. Just making a thread because there have been very few the past day or so.

2 pounds of ground beef a day. Used grassfed organic which he calculated at 11% fat.

Lots of detail in the video, but it's dry and dull IMO.

Happy reading


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29566193/

Imamura F, Micha R, Wu JH, et al. Effects of Saturated Fat, Polyunsaturated Fat, Monounsaturated Fat, and Carbohydrate on Glucose-Insulin Homeostasis: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis of Randomised Controlled Feeding Trials. PLoS Med. 2016;13(7):e1002087. Published 2016 Jul 19. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.1002087

Rosqvist F, Iggman D, Kullberg J, et al. Overfeeding polyunsaturated and saturated fat causes distinct effects on liver and visceral fat accumulation in humans. Diabetes. 2014;63(7):2356-2368. doi:10.2337/db13-1622

Bjermo H, Iggman D, Kullberg J, et al. Effects of n-6 PUFAs compared with SFAs on liver fat, lipoproteins, and inflammation in abdominal obesity: a randomized controlled trial. Am J Clin Nutr. 2012;95(5):1003-1012. doi:10.3945/ajcn.111.030114

Katan MB, Zock PL, Mensink RP. Effects of fats and fatty acids on blood lipids in humans: an overview. Am J Clin Nutr. 1994;60(6 Suppl):1017S-1022S. doi:10.1093/ajcn/60.6.1017S

Miura K, Stamler J, Nakagawa H, et al. Relationship of dietary linoleic acid to blood pressure. The International Study of Macro-Micronutrients and Blood Pressure Study [corrected] [published correction appears in Hypertension. 2008 Sep;52(3):e29]. Hypertension. 2008;52(2):408-414.

Bjermo H, Iggman D, Kullberg J, et al. Effects of n-6 PUFAs compared with SFAs on liver fat, lipoproteins, and inflammation in abdominal obesity: a randomized controlled trial. Am J Clin Nutr. 2012;95(5):1003-1012. doi:10.3945/ajcn.111.030114

Marklund M, Wu JHY, Imamura F, et al. Biomarkers of Dietary Omega-6 Fatty Acids and Incident Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality. Circulation. 2019;139(21):2422-2436. doi:10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.118.038908

Park S, Lee S, Kim Y, et al. Causal Effects of Serum Levels of n-3 or n-6 Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids on Coronary Artery Disease: Mendelian Randomization Study. Nutrients. 2021;13(5):1490. Published 2021 Apr 28. doi:10.3390/nu13051490

Sacks FM, Lichtenstein AH, Wu JHY, et al. Dietary Fats and Cardiovascular Disease: A Presidential Advisory From the American Heart Association [published correction appears in Circulation. 2017 Sep 5;136(10 ):e195]. Circulation. 2017;136(3):e1-e23. doi:10.1161/CIR.0000000000000510

Li J, Guasch-Ferré M, Li Y, Hu FB. Dietary intake and biomarkers of linoleic acid and mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies. Am J Clin Nutr. 2020;112(1):150-167. doi:10.1093/ajcn/nqz349

Dayton, S., Pearce, M.L., Hashimoto, S., Dixon, W.J., & Tomiyasu, U. (1969). A Controlled Clinical Trial of a Diet High in Unsaturated Fat in Preventing Complications of Atherosclerosis. Circulation, 40, II-1–II-63.

Hooper L, Martin N, Jimoh OF, Kirk C, Foster E, Abdelhamid AS. Reduction in saturated fat intake for cardiovascular disease. Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2020;8(8):CD011737. Published 2020 Aug 21. doi:10.1002/14651858.CD011737.pub3

You aren’t buying grass fed or “organic” in stores jfl

Switched to a carnivore diet after years of bloat maxing while powerlifting and I've dropped 60 pounds and just had the best blood work panel of my life.

Me? No I'm not.

I may eat more chicken than beef and I don't buy organic produce either because it's too expensive.

But if you mean in general he said he bought his ground meat at Walmart and I think most people in the US have access to a Walmart.

You aren’t getting grass fed beef at Walmart you might be able to get grass finished but 100% pasture raised cattle no


This is where my beef comes from


I just go to the stores freezer grab what I want and head out. Free beef for life (or as long as I’m with my gf)