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07-16-2023, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Not really surprised, such is the life of a beavercel. And I agree….I’d be extremely interested to hear about any conflicting interests he has.Interesting how he is not honest enough to admit that he probably confused you with someone else, and feels the need to ignore that question for several posts now.
But that is par for the course for the intellectually dishonest beavercel.
The next question he should answer, before anyone even engages with him... Does he have any conflicting interests?

But that is par for the course for the intellectually dishonest beavercel.

The next question he should answer, before anyone even engages with him... Does he have any conflicting interests?

And since I won’t be discussing the code with him due to his insistence on lying about what people say, I guess I’ll just share this with you and others who may be interested.
https://github.com/csi-hamburg/2022_...ediction.ipynb
There are a few potential ways in which this code could output inaccurate data:
1.) Inconsistent or incorrect data preprocessing: The accuracy of a machine learning model is highly dependent on the quality of the input data. If the prediction_df used to create the X and y variables is not properly preprocessed, it may contain missing values, outliers, or other inconsistencies that could lead to inaccurate results.
2.) Insufficient cross-validation: The code uses nested cross-validation to evaluate the model's performance. However, the number of iterations (iterations=100) may not be sufficient to obtain stable and reliable results. Increasing the number of iterations could help improve the accuracy of the output.
3.) Improper parameter search: The code uses logistic regression with elastic net regularization and performs parameter search using LogisticRegressionCV. The choice of parameter values and the range of values to search may not be optimal for the given dataset. Adjusting the parameter search space or using alternative parameter optimization techniques could potentially lead to more accurate results.
4.) Randomness in cross-validation: The StratifiedKFold cross-validation strategy is used with the shuffle=True option and a different random_state value for each iteration. The random splitting of data could introduce variability in the results. To obtain more reliable estimates, you may consider fixing the random_state to a specific value or performing multiple runs with different random seeds and averaging the results.
5.) Overfitting or underfitting: The code does not include any measures to prevent overfitting or underfitting of the model. It is possible that the model is either too complex or too simple for the given data, leading to inaccurate predictions. Regularization techniques, such as adjusting the regularization strength or exploring other models, could help address this issue.
07-16-2023, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
But the data and code are all freely available.Not really surprised, such is the life of a beavercel. And I agree….I’d be extremely interested to hear about any conflicting interests he has.
And since I won’t be discussing the code with him due to his insistence on lying about what people say, I guess I’ll just share this with you and others who may be interested.
https://github.com/csi-hamburg/2022_...ediction.ipynb
There are a few potential ways in which this code could output inaccurate data:
1.) Inconsistent or incorrect data preprocessing: The accuracy of a machine learning model is highly dependent on the quality of the input data. If the prediction_df used to create the X and y variables is not properly preprocessed, it may contain missing values, outliers, or other inconsistencies that could lead to inaccurate results.
2.) Insufficient cross-validation: The code uses nested cross-validation to evaluate the model's performance. However, the number of iterations (iterations=100) may not be sufficient to obtain stable and reliable results. Increasing the number of iterations could help improve the accuracy of the output.
3.) Improper parameter search: The code uses logistic regression with elastic net regularization and performs parameter search using LogisticRegressionCV. The choice of parameter values and the range of values to search may not be optimal for the given dataset. Adjusting the parameter search space or using alternative parameter optimization techniques could potentially lead to more accurate results.
4.) Randomness in cross-validation: The StratifiedKFold cross-validation strategy is used with the shuffle=True option and a different random_state value for each iteration. The random splitting of data could introduce variability in the results. To obtain more reliable estimates, you may consider fixing the random_state to a specific value or performing multiple runs with different random seeds and averaging the results.
5.) Overfitting or underfitting: The code does not include any measures to prevent overfitting or underfitting of the model. It is possible that the model is either too complex or too simple for the given data, leading to inaccurate predictions. Regularization techniques, such as adjusting the regularization strength or exploring other models, could help address this issue.
And since I won’t be discussing the code with him due to his insistence on lying about what people say, I guess I’ll just share this with you and others who may be interested.
https://github.com/csi-hamburg/2022_...ediction.ipynb
There are a few potential ways in which this code could output inaccurate data:
1.) Inconsistent or incorrect data preprocessing: The accuracy of a machine learning model is highly dependent on the quality of the input data. If the prediction_df used to create the X and y variables is not properly preprocessed, it may contain missing values, outliers, or other inconsistencies that could lead to inaccurate results.
2.) Insufficient cross-validation: The code uses nested cross-validation to evaluate the model's performance. However, the number of iterations (iterations=100) may not be sufficient to obtain stable and reliable results. Increasing the number of iterations could help improve the accuracy of the output.
3.) Improper parameter search: The code uses logistic regression with elastic net regularization and performs parameter search using LogisticRegressionCV. The choice of parameter values and the range of values to search may not be optimal for the given dataset. Adjusting the parameter search space or using alternative parameter optimization techniques could potentially lead to more accurate results.
4.) Randomness in cross-validation: The StratifiedKFold cross-validation strategy is used with the shuffle=True option and a different random_state value for each iteration. The random splitting of data could introduce variability in the results. To obtain more reliable estimates, you may consider fixing the random_state to a specific value or performing multiple runs with different random seeds and averaging the results.
5.) Overfitting or underfitting: The code does not include any measures to prevent overfitting or underfitting of the model. It is possible that the model is either too complex or too simple for the given data, leading to inaccurate predictions. Regularization techniques, such as adjusting the regularization strength or exploring other models, could help address this issue.
They used an an accurate, but sophisticated sounding, term for their predictive regression. Probably not necessary, but certainly not a gotcha or reason to disregard the results.
If we consider any study using linear regression (by extension ANOVA) as invalid, we don't have much left. Regression is kinda what everyone does.
The code is well organized and runs quick. You can see for yourself if any of these concerns are present in this data set.
How can I have conflicts of interest on papers on which I am not an author?
07-16-2023, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Interesting. Where do you see the word “invalid” in that post?Reasonable.
At least regression is okay. I think that's progress.
I was incorrect. You didn't say it's invalid because everyone was vaccinated. Rather, that it's invalid because some people were vaccinated and they didn't differentiate.
But, the MRI study participants were all unvaccinated.
At least regression is okay. I think that's progress.
I was incorrect. You didn't say it's invalid because everyone was vaccinated. Rather, that it's invalid because some people were vaccinated and they didn't differentiate.
But, the MRI study participants were all unvaccinated.
You already said you were incorrect with your first claim, so perhaps admitting you were incorrect with your 2nd claim will be easier.
07-16-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Yep. You didn't say "invalid" rather called it an "issue". I posted the quote.Interesting. Where do you see the word “invalid” in that post?
You already said you were incorrect with your first claim, so perhaps admitting you were incorrect with your 2nd claim will be easier.
You already said you were incorrect with your first claim, so perhaps admitting you were incorrect with your 2nd claim will be easier.
If we're gonna get literal, evaluation of stories will get interesting

At least we agree the authors weren't somehow supervising the regression themselves.
07-16-2023, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By TheMossad⏩
I can tell you have never really talked to a Pharmaceutical Rep. You are either lying to yourself or easily duped if you don’t think 99% of doctors aren’t on the take.So you're against brain surgery? So you want kids with brain cancer to die?
07-16-2023, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Why would someone do surgery if they're on the take from Pharma?I can tell you have never really talked to a Pharmaceutical Rep. You are either lying to yourself or easily duped if you don’t think 99% of doctors aren’t on the take.
Wouldn't they prescribe meds instead?
07-16-2023, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Surgery has nothing to do with it..it’s what they prescribed before or after the surgery. What a ridiculous postWhy would someone do surgery if they're on the take from Pharma?
Wouldn't they prescribe meds instead?
Wouldn't they prescribe meds instead?
07-16-2023, 01:14 PM
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07-16-2023, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
3 of my friends since high school are Pharmaceutical Reps, 2 in San Diego, and one that moved to Orange County..they are in hundreds of doctors offices a year..are you denying that doctors are not incentivized by Pharmaceutical Companies?Oh, I see.
You replied to a post about surgical treatment for brain cancer.
Thanks!
You replied to a post about surgical treatment for brain cancer.
Thanks!
My response was to Wincel & his beliefs, post content had little to do with it..but it does connect
Edit-& just like that JLC’s narrative comes through again lol
07-16-2023, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
I said thanks.3 of my friends since high school are Pharmaceutical Reps, 2 in San Diego, and one that moved to Orange County..they are in hundreds of doctors offices a year..are you denying that doctors are not incentivized by Pharmaceutical Companies?
My response was to Wincel & his beliefs, post content had little to do with it..but it does connect
Edit-& just like that JLC’s narrative comes through again lol
My response was to Wincel & his beliefs, post content had little to do with it..but it does connect
Edit-& just like that JLC’s narrative comes through again lol
If my narrative that I'd do anything possible to treat a kid's brain cancer is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
It doesn't look like surgery or pharmaceuticals can do much at this point for covid-related brain damage

07-16-2023, 01:57 PM
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07-16-2023, 02:01 PM
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07-16-2023, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Come on, man. You can make me seem more preposterous than that.Yep, your narrative includes subjecting the general population to experimental therapies so that eventually we might get a therapy to treat a kid's cancer.
And yes, I noticed that you used "treat" instead of "cure"...
There is a reason why you aren't telling us what your conflict of interest would be.

And yes, I noticed that you used "treat" instead of "cure"...
There is a reason why you aren't telling us what your conflict of interest would be.

I'm not aware of any cancer cures. But if you have info, plz share.
07-16-2023, 02:09 PM
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07-16-2023, 02:26 PM
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07-16-2023, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
a conflict of interestThere can't be?
Wow.
Pseudointellectuals gonna pseudointellectual.
Wow.
Pseudointellectuals gonna pseudointellectual.

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Unless you consider me being negged as affecting me (positively), I don't see how I can have a conflict of interest.
07-16-2023, 03:44 PM
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Hurr Durr, get the jab, otherwise if you get the Rona, you'll suffer brain damage, low T, and impotence......hurr durr........
07-16-2023, 03:48 PM
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07-16-2023, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You do realize the majority of the world's population got Covid at least once?Apparently so do people who get covid

07-16-2023, 04:56 PM
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07-16-2023, 07:43 PM
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If people who got the vax, and also got covid, are experiencing these issues, how do we know whether it was the vax or the covid?
07-16-2023, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
The MRI study suggests there are organic effects associated with infection.If people who got the vax, and also got covid, are experiencing these issues, how do we know whether it was the vax or the covid?
07-16-2023, 08:02 PM
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