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07-17-2023, 06:25 AM
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For all the MAGApedes why did 2022 go so poorly for the GOP?
Was any of it related to Blumph and running campaigns b####ing and moaning about Biden's victory?
07-17-2023, 06:38 AM
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Most are going to blame it on the Roe v Wade ruling. And that had something to do with it, yes. But it wasn't the main reason.
Democrats were ahead in pretty much every poll in all of 2021, and then the GOP pulled ahead by a couple points in 2022. Once Roe was overturned, the polling became even, and then the GOP slightly pulled ahead again as the election got nearer.
In such a chit economy and political environment for the Democrats, the GOP should have been up by +8 to +10 in early 2022, and the Roe decision would have knocked them back to like +6 or so. But in reality, they were only up by around +2-3, so the Roe decision knocked them back to dead heat with the Democrats.
So yeah Roe did have some impact, but there was definitely something else that was keeping the Democrats ahead in the polls for all of 2021, and that kept the GOP's lead to a minimum for all of 2022.
Democrats were ahead in pretty much every poll in all of 2021, and then the GOP pulled ahead by a couple points in 2022. Once Roe was overturned, the polling became even, and then the GOP slightly pulled ahead again as the election got nearer.
In such a chit economy and political environment for the Democrats, the GOP should have been up by +8 to +10 in early 2022, and the Roe decision would have knocked them back to like +6 or so. But in reality, they were only up by around +2-3, so the Roe decision knocked them back to dead heat with the Democrats.
So yeah Roe did have some impact, but there was definitely something else that was keeping the Democrats ahead in the polls for all of 2021, and that kept the GOP's lead to a minimum for all of 2022.
07-17-2023, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted By John
Remember, the GOP did great in 2021. They won Virginia and would've won New Jersey if they knew it was that close. The Democrats only started to overperform in elections after Roe.Most are going to blame it on the Roe v Wade ruling. And that had something to do with it, yes. But it wasn't the main reason.
Democrats were ahead in pretty much every poll in all of 2021, and then the GOP pulled ahead by a couple points in 2022. Once Roe was overturned, the polling became even, and then the GOP slightly pulled ahead again as the election got nearer.
In such a chit economy and political environment for the Democrats, the GOP should have been up by +8 to +10 in early 2022, and the Roe decision would have knocked them back to like +6 or so. But in reality, they were only up by around +2-3, so the Roe decision knocked them back to dead heat with the Democrats.
So yeah Roe did have some impact, but there was definitely something else that was keeping the Democrats ahead in the polls for all of 2021, and that kept the GOP's lead to a minimum for all of 2022.
Democrats were ahead in pretty much every poll in all of 2021, and then the GOP pulled ahead by a couple points in 2022. Once Roe was overturned, the polling became even, and then the GOP slightly pulled ahead again as the election got nearer.
In such a chit economy and political environment for the Democrats, the GOP should have been up by +8 to +10 in early 2022, and the Roe decision would have knocked them back to like +6 or so. But in reality, they were only up by around +2-3, so the Roe decision knocked them back to dead heat with the Democrats.
So yeah Roe did have some impact, but there was definitely something else that was keeping the Democrats ahead in the polls for all of 2021, and that kept the GOP's lead to a minimum for all of 2022.
It was Roe v. Wade overturn + Trump nutters that did them in. They MAY have been able to survive Roe if they weren't running morons like Walker, Lake, Masters, Oz, etc. etc.
Lake only lost by like 0.5 points. So imagine if she didn't tell McCain voters not to vote for her. She probably wins. But Trumpers are not known for their strategy.
Honestly, the fact Trump does so well despite being an absolute nutjob is the most frustrating aspect of it all. If he gained some sanity and strategy he'd easily win. It's his attitude that does him in.
Republicans are weak men who pretend to be strong
Democrats are strong men who pretend to be weak
07-17-2023, 06:55 AM
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They didn’t ballot harvest well enough
Look at PA.
Dems either cheated thru harvesting or they’re legit low IQ who voted for a special needs.
Which one is it?
Look at PA.
Dems either cheated thru harvesting or they’re legit low IQ who voted for a special needs.
Which one is it?
07-17-2023, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted By DeshaunWatson⏩
Who is more retarded: the retard or the person who loses to the retard?They didn’t ballot harvest well enough
Look at PA.
Dems either cheated thru harvesting or they’re legit low IQ who voted for a special needs.
Which one is it?
Look at PA.
Dems either cheated thru harvesting or they’re legit low IQ who voted for a special needs.
Which one is it?
Imagine losing to John Fetterman. HOLY CHIT. End the GOP.
Republicans are weak men who pretend to be strong
Democrats are strong men who pretend to be weak
07-17-2023, 07:38 AM
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In 2020, all the close states changed the rules to allow ballot harvesting. Republicans will not win any statewide elections in close states ever again.
This is why in 2022 Republicans did ok in Congressional races, but did not do well in Sentate races. This is why Biden will get reelected in 2024.
This is why in 2022 Republicans did ok in Congressional races, but did not do well in Sentate races. This is why Biden will get reelected in 2024.
07-17-2023, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
A doctor versus a special needs. PA Dems still went for the special needs.Who is more retarded: the retard or the person who loses to the retard?
Imagine losing to John Fetterman. HOLY CHIT. End the GOP.
Imagine losing to John Fetterman. HOLY CHIT. End the GOP.
So again,
They either cheated thru harvesting or Dems are legit low IQ. Didn’t a dead guy win too?
Which one is it?
07-17-2023, 08:57 AM
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Republicans had a higher national turnout -- 51% Repubs vs 48% Dems.
7% of Biden 2020 voters who came out in 2022 voted Republican vs 3% of Trump 2020 were voted Democrat in 2022
What killed Republicans is that a lot of Republican voters split their tickets and voted for Democrats for Senate and governor (but not House). The suggestion is that Republicans weren't happy with candidates like Kari Lake, Blake Masters, and others, and all of them were closely tied to Trump.
A regular conservative Republican would've won
7% of Biden 2020 voters who came out in 2022 voted Republican vs 3% of Trump 2020 were voted Democrat in 2022
What killed Republicans is that a lot of Republican voters split their tickets and voted for Democrats for Senate and governor (but not House). The suggestion is that Republicans weren't happy with candidates like Kari Lake, Blake Masters, and others, and all of them were closely tied to Trump.
A regular conservative Republican would've won
07-17-2023, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted By John
Exit polling showed it was by far the reasonMost are going to blame it on the Roe v Wade ruling. And that had something to do with it, yes. But it wasn't the main reason.
And the GOP still won by 3%
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07-17-2023, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By DeshaunWatson⏩
If you were rational, you would look at what you did wrong and work on fixing those issues to win the next time.A doctor versus a special needs. PA Dems still went for the special needs.
So again,
They either cheated thru harvesting or Dems are legit low IQ. Didn’t a dead guy win too?
Which one is it?
So again,
They either cheated thru harvesting or Dems are legit low IQ. Didn’t a dead guy win too?
Which one is it?
But Trumpers are low IQ and incapable of that.
Republicans are weak men who pretend to be strong
Democrats are strong men who pretend to be weak
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond⏩
Republicans underperformed in the House too. Only got 221 seats - people were expecting 231+. They had to vote 18 times to get a Speaker lol.Republicans had a higher national turnout -- 51% Repubs vs 48% Dems.
7% of Biden 2020 voters who came out in 2022 voted Republican vs 3% of Trump 2020 were voted Democrat in 2022
What killed Republicans is that a lot of Republican voters split their tickets and voted for Democrats for Senate and governor (but not House). The suggestion is that Republicans weren't happy with candidates like Kari Lake, Blake Masters, and others, and all of them were closely tied to Trump.
A regular conservative Republican would've won
7% of Biden 2020 voters who came out in 2022 voted Republican vs 3% of Trump 2020 were voted Democrat in 2022
What killed Republicans is that a lot of Republican voters split their tickets and voted for Democrats for Senate and governor (but not House). The suggestion is that Republicans weren't happy with candidates like Kari Lake, Blake Masters, and others, and all of them were closely tied to Trump.
A regular conservative Republican would've won
Republicans got their chit pushed in and they learned nothing from it. The Democrat Party is now the sole national party in the USA.
Republicans are weak men who pretend to be strong
Democrats are strong men who pretend to be weak
07-17-2023, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted By SmithMachineGuy⏩
No they didn't. They barely survived that lol. Americans rejected what the Republicans were offering full stop. It was a total rejection of MAGA and Trumpism.This is why in 2022 Republicans did ok in Congressional races, .
And it was beautiful to see. I still replay 2022 midterm coverage on YouTube every now and then.
Republicans are weak men who pretend to be strong
Democrats are strong men who pretend to be weak
07-17-2023, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
They picked up 9 seats in the House on a 2.8% popular vote marginRepublicans underperformed in the House too. Only got 221 seats - people were expecting 231+. They had to vote 18 times to get a Speaker lol.
Republicans got their chit pushed in and they learned nothing from it. The Democrat Party is now the sole national party in the USA.
Republicans got their chit pushed in and they learned nothing from it. The Democrat Party is now the sole national party in the USA.
In 2014, they picked up 13 seats in the House on a 5.7% popular vote margin
So 2022 midterms, for the House Repubs, was just a shade worse than 2014. Not so horrible
07-17-2023, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By DanteEdmond⏩
2.8% vs 5.7% is a big difference.They picked up 9 seats in the House on a 2.8% popular vote margin
In 2014, they picked up 13 seats in the House on a 5.7% popular vote margin
So 2022 midterms, for the House Repubs, was just a shade worse than 2014. Not so horrible
In 2014, they picked up 13 seats in the House on a 5.7% popular vote margin
So 2022 midterms, for the House Repubs, was just a shade worse than 2014. Not so horrible
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