end of the line

Thank you for saying I have potential. That means a lot to me! I am typically good with details because I edit and review work quite frequently. I like to analyze my writing, looking for ways to improve clarity and concision. I intend to keep improving. I've been tracking my calories and macros since I started going to the gym. I credit that with my modest success with bulking so far.

You're welcome for the pic. I love that pic as well. It's a gem. There are certain pics I think of from time to time and just chuckle. That is one of them.

That's too desperate, you should only do that stuff in a relationship.

Less effort is better for you. Unfortunately, you're supplicating and pandering right now which indicates lower value to women.

I'm guessing if you've already demonstrated high value in person, supplicating and pandering isn't a bad thing.

It can only serve to hurt attraction. Pandering is bending over backwards to seek the approval of a woman.

Ah you're right. I guess what I'm saying is, being kind/sincere won't hurt if you've demonstrated high value. Simping would hurt which is what supplicating/pandering is.

Hmm?Gotcha. I understand. It's kind of similar to a thought I had about taking a woman on a date to a fancy restaurant. It is not appropriate to do that if we're just dating. It seems appropriate only if we're in a relationship.

I am really optimistic about my crush. I received a reply from her earlier today. I replied and intend to ask her for a date tomorrow evening or Saturday evening. I'm just giving it a text or two more from her before I ask.I read you and Luc1fer's replies. I agree with both of you, and I think the key takeaway for me is to not show desperation. I need to show women that I am valuable to them and others and that I won't allow anyone to take advantage of me. I also need to express my value in appropriate ways. For example, I wouldn't lead with telling them how much I make a year or anything money related because it sets a poor impression that can never be undone.

I accidentally did this with someone a while back, she was older and chatted me up.

I was heavily sleep deprived and was thinking out loud. Fuark. Wasn't even attracted to her.

Haha, sometimes our words come out so quickly that we don't have a chance to think. It happens to me sometimes when I'm nervous. I'm probably less "on my game" or my normal self when I get really nervous.

I am always thinking about how I want to talk with my crush. I willnotexplicitly ask her on a date for this first meetup (i.e., I will not use the worddate). Instead, I will ask something along the lines of, "Would you like to have dinner with me tomorrow night?" I find this to be less intimidating, yet my intentions are clear: I want to see her in person and get to know her.

Never had the “opportunity” to serve is a misnomer

Of course you had the opportunity. You didn’t because you’re a low test phagggot

She knows this, being in the Air Force herself, and your pathetic simping not only dries her up but it’s brutal to read in this thread

Flush yourself

Dear diary/Miscers:
To recap, I sent my crush a text last night to which she replied this morning. I replied to that text a few hours later, but I haven't heard back from her yet (it's been ~10 hours since I sent it). I believe she hasn't opened my text yet; both of us have read receipts on. I am still incredibly optimistic.

I'm thinking about asking her out to dinner tomorrow night or Saturday night (depending upon when she replies).

I hope to provide you all with an update as soon as I have one.

Thank you

where did you find that cat pic OP?

Post pics of text convos for feedback

Soundcloud. I looked at the date I saved that photo and it's so far back that I can't seem to find it withinDownloadsor within a profile on Soundcloud. There are a lot of funny pictures on Soundcloud.

Here's a similar one.
Yes sir. Please let me know what you think.FYI: Her and I had seen each other many times in the gym before I approached her on Wednesday. I told her in person that I bike to the gym (I had my helmet in my bag).

She hasn't opened my most recent text yet (unless she turned read receipts off, which I highly doubt).

[QUOTE=ArCaNe66 post_id=1686930473]Soundcloud. I looked at the date I saved that photo and it's so far back that I can't seem to find it within[i]Downloads[/i]or within a profile on Soundcloud. There are a lot of funny pictures on Soundcloud.

Here's a similar one.
[/img]https://i.imgur.com/Aw6cbQJ.jpg[/img]


Yes sir. Please let me know what you think.[b]FYI[/b]: Her and I had seen each other many times in the gym before I approached her on Wednesday. I told her in person that I bike to the gym (I had my helmet in my bag).

She hasn't opened my most recent text yet (unless she turned read receipts off, which I highly doubt).
[/img]https://i.imgur.com/mvi4LvH.png[/img][/QUOTE][img]https://i.imgur.com/T4JlKoKl.jpg[/img]

Cringe AF.

IF.. and I really mean "IF" she responds.. just close the deal, ask for a coffee date, and don't expound on more than a sentence of you choosing time and place.

If she says she's busy, then pick another time. If she keeps blowing you off, abort and NC. She's just not that into you, and being polite.

I didn't want to ask her out on the first text. My second text is a bit longer, but isn't too long (in my opinion).

If she replies, I'll definitely ask her out (i.e., my third text would be asking her out). It will be short and direct.

Yeah, it's possible she isn't into me. I guess her being polite is leading me on a little bit, but it's all good. I'm not going to double text her right now nor am I going to beg her (either in person or via text).

Whoa whoa.... females only take them 10 minutes to decide to date you or not. If you give out any further info about yourself, most likely going to turn her away.

If she's into you, the less you say about yourself, the better.

She seemed pretty open to the idea of getting to know me. I even leaned in to her when I asked her for her number and she didn't back away, which is a good sign. I get what you mean about oversharing. I don't think my second text is a deal breaker, but I see your point about keeping it short and sweet.

Let her get to know you ON the date. If you tell her everything pre-date through texts.. then why would stay interested? You already gave up the goods.

I get that. I definitely didn't give upallthe goods. I have a lot to talk about. For example, I didn't tell her what I do for a living, where I grew up, what my goals are, where I live, where I went to school, etc.

I got really excited, sure. I had a lot to say and it's been a while since I've dated. I realize I may have made a mistake by revealing as much as I did.

By the way, unless she turned her read receipts off for our conversation then it means she didn't open the message yet.

I'm thinking I'll be asking her out VERY soon. I hope she replies today so I can ask her out for tomorrow night.

The great oracle (GPT-4 via ChatGPT) seems to think we're still in this. I gave it the entire text conversation and this is its reply:

I wish you luck and look forward to further updates, but your second text was definitely too long and sounds more like you want to be her gay best friend than to date her. You insinuated that you're a fan of aKorean boy bandand followed that with a cringe emoji. Referencing your bike as something that "gets [you] out of the house" makes it sound like you don't have other occasions to leave your house, in turn indicating that you lack a social life. I would avoid conveying that information, at least in that manner, going forward.

Edit: DO NOT follow ChatGPT's advice.

Thank you for your reply. To clarify why I mentioned BTS: I saw her wearing a BTS shirt (it had the name of one of the 7 guys in BTS on the back), so I wanted to tie me remembering that into a later text.

Regarding the "getting out of the house" part, I see what you mean. It can be perceived as though I'm a hermit and don't get out. I will definitely keep this in mind. In the future, if there's a big text I will review it even more before sending and possibly post it here for feedback before sending.

Consider just matching the energy you're getting from her. If she is sending you a text two or three lines long, just do something similar. It can definitely come off weird if you type up a short essay in response to a casual few lines.

Totally understand. I will be much more mindful of this in the future. I appreciate your help.

In the meantime, I'll do my best to stay positive and optimistic. I don't believe she goes to the gym on Friday evenings, but I'll be going there tonight.

Any advice if I were to see her in person and she hasn't responded to the text yet?

It's 100% too long.

"Nice, are you into Korean food?"

She almost certainly is. Leads you straight to a date if you want to go that direction.

If she hasn't responded yet, do this - 100% ded fukn srs it will resurrect you from the dead:

Say "I'm going to send you a pic of my cock"

If she responds immediately (no matter what the response is), you send the below pic. If she doesn't respond, wait 5 minutes then send her the below pic.



Ded. Fukn. Srs.

Why can't you text like a normal person? Keep it short and sweet like a normal conversation. (Super Ded fkn Srs)

Imo, and it sucks cause she's making you work

But you should have followed up on something regarding what she said

You offered her info before she even asked

So, again.. it's either what I said, or she wants you to ask her out

Both of which don't need long texts to get across

[QUOTE=Luc1fer post_id=1686950723]It's 100% too long.

"Nice, are you into Korean food?"

She almost certainly is. Leads you straight to a date if you want to go that direction.[/QUOTE]I really like that line. I found a Korean BBQ place that is really close to the gym and it's got a solid rating. I will suggest it if I get the chance. Thank you.

I thought I wasn't going to double text, but if I don't hear back, how do you suggest I play it?

[QUOTE=mulletwarrior post_id=1686951103]If she hasn't responded yet, do this - 100% ded fukn srs it will resurrect you from the dead:

Say "I'm going to send you a pic of my cock"

If she responds immediately (no matter what the response is), you send the below pic. If she doesn't respond, wait 5 minutes then send her the below pic.

[img]https://www.thehappychickencoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/rooster-crowing-768x512.jpg[img]

Ded. Fukn. Srs.[/QUOTE]She seems like a really sweet, kindhearted woman. I think that would get me blacklisted...

[QUOTE=gmenfan40 post_id=1686951463]Why can't you text like a normal person? Keep it short and sweet like a normal conversation. (Super Ded fkn Srs)[/QUOTE]I gotcha. I learned from it. It is what it is. I made a mistake. I'm working to improve myself.

[QUOTE=propreffered7 post_id=1686952943]Imo, and it sucks cause she's making you work

But you should have followed up on something regarding what she said

You offered her info before she even asked

So, again.. it's either what I said, or she wants you to ask her out

Both of which don't need long texts to get across[/QUOTE]Yeah. I think she appreciates the directness. I am not sure what my next move is, but if I get any sort of chance (such as a text back), I am going to ask her if she'd like to have dinner with me. Really thinking the Korean food is a great idea.