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07-19-2023, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
The nerf to devouring blaze was massive. 150% immobilize bonus down to 60% with 6/3My sorc is now essentially unplayable unless I go down several nightmare tiers.
I can't clear the same dungeons I used to without failing from dying so much. My damage feels like it has been literally cut in half, while the damage I take feels far higher than it ever was.
Lmfao what a joke. Glad studios that are worth a fk have games coming out soon to play, like the new Cyberpunk DLC.
Would love to know what kind of bull**** they will spew about all this at their "campfire" live Friday.
I can't clear the same dungeons I used to without failing from dying so much. My damage feels like it has been literally cut in half, while the damage I take feels far higher than it ever was.
Lmfao what a joke. Glad studios that are worth a fk have games coming out soon to play, like the new Cyberpunk DLC.
Would love to know what kind of bull**** they will spew about all this at their "campfire" live Friday.
Thats a 90% drop. This is a crit multipler of your entire crit damage so this is very huge. sorc dps has dropped the most
raiment of the infinite is also pretty useless now since they nerfed aspect of control. you cant double dip from stun and freeze damage anymore, the bonus only applies once.
The new sorc unique is also a joke... sorc has no useable uniques now
My mana pool has also dropped. max mana on helm and rings has been reduced significantly... shadow nerf.
The worst part of everything though was the nerf to armor
it affects sorc the most. against level 120-125 enemies, 5000 armor is almost the equivalent of being naked. for other classes with 7k-10k armor, this still applies ample damage reduction
so sorc simply cant challenge enemies of higher level anymore, they just die right away. sorc is dead
it was already the weakest class in most need of a buff and it somehow got nerfed the hardest
07-19-2023, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By EliteBrah⏩
Literally EVERYHITNG is a 1 shot if you play a sorc. I absolutely cannot clear a dungeon anymore without waiting between any mob packs for all my cooldowns to be available, because I will guaranteed burn every one of them against elites. It takes me 2-3 times longer to clear dungeons than it used to, if I can make it through without failing due to dying so much at all.The nerf to devouring blaze was massive. 150% immobilize bonus down to 60% with 6/3
Thats a 90% drop. This is a crit multipler of your entire crit damage so this is very huge. sorc dps has dropped the most
raiment of the infinite is also pretty useless now since they nerfed aspect of control. you cant double dip from stun and freeze damage anymore, the bonus only applies once.
The new sorc unique is also a joke... sorc has no useable uniques now
My mana pool has also dropped. max mana on helm and rings has been reduced significantly... shadow nerf.
The worst part of everything though was the nerf to armor
it affects sorc the most. against level 120-125 enemies, 5000 armor is almost the equivalent of being naked. for other classes with 7k-10k armor, this still applies ample damage reduction
so sorc simply cant challenge enemies of higher level anymore, they just die right away. sorc is dead
it was already the weakest class in most need of a buff and it somehow got nerfed the hardest
Thats a 90% drop. This is a crit multipler of your entire crit damage so this is very huge. sorc dps has dropped the most
raiment of the infinite is also pretty useless now since they nerfed aspect of control. you cant double dip from stun and freeze damage anymore, the bonus only applies once.
The new sorc unique is also a joke... sorc has no useable uniques now
My mana pool has also dropped. max mana on helm and rings has been reduced significantly... shadow nerf.
The worst part of everything though was the nerf to armor
it affects sorc the most. against level 120-125 enemies, 5000 armor is almost the equivalent of being naked. for other classes with 7k-10k armor, this still applies ample damage reduction
so sorc simply cant challenge enemies of higher level anymore, they just die right away. sorc is dead
it was already the weakest class in most need of a buff and it somehow got nerfed the hardest
It's a complete fking joke.
Incompetence on a whole different level from Blizzard with this. I can't imagine what the train of thought was behind this patch.
Edit: It's not like playing a sorc even BEFORE this was easy. You were still squishy as all hell and died A LOT. Now there's just no chance.
07-19-2023, 05:39 PM
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If they actually nerfed everything to coincide with the hearts, that’s even dumber than I thought. It’s so stupid that this development team needs to be fired and replaced.
Well, they should probably be replaced regardless based on everything else.
Well, they should probably be replaced regardless based on everything else.
07-19-2023, 06:20 PM
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looks like Helltides are fixed. Thank goodness.
I modified my build on my Druid. I noticed a couple things that bothered me. The first is the obvious incoming damage, but the other is the pulverize hit box and moments that my character won't attack, like his arms are "stuck" by the mass of enemies on top of me. I found myself going outside of melee range to get good hits in. With the nerf to Lightning Strike, I figure a ranged pulverize build could be better.
Switched out LS with WS, equipped Tempest roar that's been sitting in my stash, and switched out some talents and yeah, ranged is now better.
I modified my build on my Druid. I noticed a couple things that bothered me. The first is the obvious incoming damage, but the other is the pulverize hit box and moments that my character won't attack, like his arms are "stuck" by the mass of enemies on top of me. I found myself going outside of melee range to get good hits in. With the nerf to Lightning Strike, I figure a ranged pulverize build could be better.
Switched out LS with WS, equipped Tempest roar that's been sitting in my stash, and switched out some talents and yeah, ranged is now better.
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07-20-2023, 08:03 AM
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the devs seem to balance classes around popularity
sorc is most popular followed by barb, so therefore they are balanced to be weakest.
Necro is average popularity
rogue and druid are least popular so therefore balanced to be the strongest
sorc is most popular followed by barb, so therefore they are balanced to be weakest.
Necro is average popularity
rogue and druid are least popular so therefore balanced to be the strongest
07-20-2023, 08:23 AM
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I feel like everyone is burying the lead here. The worst thing about this patch is how leveling got slowed to a crawl. That sense of "progression" is gone. It now takes me like 3x or 4x longer to increase in a level.
Screw it. Today I found the rest of the Lilith Altars, I did all of the possible renown claimable actions for each zone, and did the Cathedral of Light capstone. Transferred into WT3 and quit the game. I downloaded the Horizon Forbidden West DLC and will play that over the course of a week. I figure once I beat that they should have this all sorted (fingers crossed).
I had an absolute blast playing the campaign as my blood Necro summoner. Looking forward to playing season 1 on world tier 3 sometime in August. Will prolly make a rogue build since everyone is hyping that class with this game.
Screw it. Today I found the rest of the Lilith Altars, I did all of the possible renown claimable actions for each zone, and did the Cathedral of Light capstone. Transferred into WT3 and quit the game. I downloaded the Horizon Forbidden West DLC and will play that over the course of a week. I figure once I beat that they should have this all sorted (fingers crossed).
I had an absolute blast playing the campaign as my blood Necro summoner. Looking forward to playing season 1 on world tier 3 sometime in August. Will prolly make a rogue build since everyone is hyping that class with this game.
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07-20-2023, 08:27 AM
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07-20-2023, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern⏩
i think the main move is to do exactly what you did then come back for season like....5 when things might have been fixedI feel like everyone is burying the lead here. The worst thing about this patch is how leveling got slowed to a crawl. That sense of "progression" is gone. It now takes me like 3x or 4x longer to increase in a level.
Screw it. Today I found the rest of the Lilith Altars, I did all of the possible renown claimable actions for each zone, and did the Cathedral of Light capstone. Transferred into WT3 and quit the game. I downloaded the Horizon Forbidden West DLC and will play that over the course of a week. I figure once I beat that they should have this all sorted (fingers crossed).
I had an absolute blast playing the campaign as my blood Necro summoner. Looking forward to playing season 1 on world tier 3 sometime in August. Will prolly make a rogue build since everyone is hyping that class with this game.
Screw it. Today I found the rest of the Lilith Altars, I did all of the possible renown claimable actions for each zone, and did the Cathedral of Light capstone. Transferred into WT3 and quit the game. I downloaded the Horizon Forbidden West DLC and will play that over the course of a week. I figure once I beat that they should have this all sorted (fingers crossed).
I had an absolute blast playing the campaign as my blood Necro summoner. Looking forward to playing season 1 on world tier 3 sometime in August. Will prolly make a rogue build since everyone is hyping that class with this game.
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07-20-2023, 12:08 PM
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everyone saying the druid is the strongest class now
2nd is rogue, followed by barb/necro with sorc being dead last in the "new rankings"..
(sorc was the most popular class in diablo 4 with druid being the least popular)
so yea like others mentioned these dev's look at stats of popularity and their goal is to get the usage percentages around the same.. same thing goes with skills so thats why the "meta builds" always end up getting nerfed.
Season 1 started, and the servers are SLAMMED right now. i guess all the cry babies that uninstalled and quit two days ago are back to play lmfao.
2nd is rogue, followed by barb/necro with sorc being dead last in the "new rankings"..
(sorc was the most popular class in diablo 4 with druid being the least popular)
so yea like others mentioned these dev's look at stats of popularity and their goal is to get the usage percentages around the same.. same thing goes with skills so thats why the "meta builds" always end up getting nerfed.
Season 1 started, and the servers are SLAMMED right now. i guess all the cry babies that uninstalled and quit two days ago are back to play lmfao.
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07-20-2023, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By rocketfish⏩
I think rogue is at the top again. The issue is that it takes specific positioning, which most players won't bother with. For example, with twisting blades, you activate it, then dash to the other side of the mob so that the blades flies though the entire group. Most players want to roll through the content with ease, which gets very boring.everyone saying the druid is the strongest class now
2nd is rogue, followed by barb/necro with sorc being dead last in the "new rankings"..
(sorc was the most popular class in diablo 4 with druid being the least popular)
so yea like others mentioned these dev's look at stats of popularity and their goal is to get the usage percentages around the same.. same thing goes with skills so thats why the "meta builds" always end up getting nerfed.
Season 1 started, and the servers are SLAMMED right now. i guess all the cry babies that uninstalled and quit two days ago are back to play lmfao.
2nd is rogue, followed by barb/necro with sorc being dead last in the "new rankings"..
(sorc was the most popular class in diablo 4 with druid being the least popular)
so yea like others mentioned these dev's look at stats of popularity and their goal is to get the usage percentages around the same.. same thing goes with skills so thats why the "meta builds" always end up getting nerfed.
Season 1 started, and the servers are SLAMMED right now. i guess all the cry babies that uninstalled and quit two days ago are back to play lmfao.
I like Druid because it mixes up the options and they are all good. Rogues playstyles are very similar, but are almost all S tier.
I'm thinking bone spear with end up s tier again too.
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07-20-2023, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By rocketfish⏩
Season 1 started, and the servers are SLAMMED right now. i guess all the cry babies that uninstalled and quit two days ago are back to play lmfao.

07-20-2023, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By rocketfish⏩
Given the timing of the start of the season, it’s probably just the chitty blizz servers.Season 1 started, and the servers are SLAMMED right now. i guess all the cry babies that uninstalled and quit two days ago are back to play lmfao.
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Lol it’s not because the servers are slammed with so many trying to get on
07-20-2023, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
but it is, every game's peak player count is always at the start of new content/season. the player count will trickle down give it til the weekend is over.*** Free Thinker Crew ***
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07-20-2023, 10:49 PM
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Couldn't last more than an hour in S1. What's the point of a complete wipe if there's no fresh trading economy.... or even leaderboards.... or even the excitement of finding gg loot because the loot is such crap in the first place?
Going back to D2R where my singleplayer progress isn't wiped every 3 months. And where the loot is actually fukin good.
3/10 at best.
Going back to D2R where my singleplayer progress isn't wiped every 3 months. And where the loot is actually fukin good.
3/10 at best.
07-21-2023, 12:30 AM
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So as I was looking through the stats on my rings, it occurred to me that the colored gem slots, and only allowing the malignant on jewelry, adds yet another random drop issue. So not only will we now be looking for the right stats, but you could be totally screwed if you get perfect stat rolls, but the malignant gem slot is the wrong color. This wasn’t the case in D3 with the legendary gems, so I can’t imagine what possessed them to do this. They really overthought this one.
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07-21-2023, 01:51 AM
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Played a good bit of Season 1 today, stopped at level 37. First time getting a rogue this far. I came in with all the Lilith statues and exploration, but that only puts you at 500 renown for each zone, so you feel motivated to do quests/dungeons/strongholds. Plus of course you start out without any legendary aspects unlocked. So every time I reached a lull in the malignant quest line (example being told to go to level 35 areas when I was only like 13) I just did all the dungeons with legendary aspects I needed, and random quests/dungeons/strongholds (especially if whispers were involved).
I got one malignant gem so far that has really improved my build - every time I lay a trap a decoy spawns, taunts everything nearby (including bosses), then keeps them in the trap for a while, and explodes with shadow damage. Pretty damn OP tbh. Every other malignant gem I've seen has been chit though, but there's a couple ones you get in WT3/WT4 that look interesting.
Out of all the new legendary aspects I've seen brought to D4, only 1 seems beneficial for my build as a rogue.
One thing to note though, is that every ring/amulet, even the ones from obbos and jewelery vendor are colored, so that's nice at least.
I got one malignant gem so far that has really improved my build - every time I lay a trap a decoy spawns, taunts everything nearby (including bosses), then keeps them in the trap for a while, and explodes with shadow damage. Pretty damn OP tbh. Every other malignant gem I've seen has been chit though, but there's a couple ones you get in WT3/WT4 that look interesting.
Out of all the new legendary aspects I've seen brought to D4, only 1 seems beneficial for my build as a rogue.
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
This whole time I thought you could spend some kinda resource or something to change the color but I was wrong (just checked). Getting the wrong color on potential upgrades has happened to me a lot now, srs - pisses me off.So as I was looking through the stats on my rings, it occurred to me that the colored gem slots, and only allowing the malignant on jewelry, adds yet another random drop issue. So not only will we now be looking for the right stats, but you could be totally screwed if you get perfect stat rolls, but the malignant gem slot is the wrong color. This wasn’t the case in D3 with the legendary gems, so I can’t imagine what possessed them to do this. They really overthought this one.
One thing to note though, is that every ring/amulet, even the ones from obbos and jewelery vendor are colored, so that's nice at least.
07-21-2023, 05:15 AM
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Game made me hop right back into Path of Exile.
Can't believe fuking Blizzard couldn't even compete with a FTP game.
Can't believe fuking Blizzard couldn't even compete with a FTP game.
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07-21-2023, 07:07 AM
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I'm level 21 on my druid for the new season. Really enjoying it tbh. See that you can only put malignant gems into jewelry so far, so don't know if skulls are useless now or there will be two slots later on. I got a wrathful gem though that is nuts, the gems are really cool. It makes sense to why they nerfed some things to balance out the gems cause they are pretty powerful.
Anyway I play this game for fun and fun it is for me. POE is way too complicated to casually play.
Anyway I play this game for fun and fun it is for me. POE is way too complicated to casually play.
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Originally Posted By rocketfish⏩
This is major cope. Of course there will be more at the start of a season than there have been lately but there will not be more than there was at launch. If they are still having issues with queues after launch and all the stress tests, it’s another issue. Blizz already confirmed this too.but it is, every game's peak player count is always at the start of new content/season. the player count will trickle down give it til the weekend is over.
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so far season 1 is decent
my only negative about it i am experiencing is you acquire malignant drops in a similar drop rate to gems. which is a lot and now your storage fills up even faster with no solution besides waiting for season 2 for gem stash, in which the entire season of the malignant may cease to exist entirely.
so season 1 = season of no storage
my only negative about it i am experiencing is you acquire malignant drops in a similar drop rate to gems. which is a lot and now your storage fills up even faster with no solution besides waiting for season 2 for gem stash, in which the entire season of the malignant may cease to exist entirely.
so season 1 = season of no storage
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Lollin hard at the diablo 4 subreddit jumping onto the Baldurs gate 3 hype because blizzard fukked up all the updates and seasonal changes lmfao.
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Dev Campfire Cliff Notes:
"Wasn't our intentions to nerf the game into the dirt and make it miserable to play. Should be fixed by Season 10. Also we load every item in the game for every character on screen so that's why you can't have more stash space."
"Wasn't our intentions to nerf the game into the dirt and make it miserable to play. Should be fixed by Season 10. Also we load every item in the game for every character on screen so that's why you can't have more stash space."
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Originally Posted By chrsschb⏩
seriously u wot m8'd when I heard thatDev Campfire Cliff Notes:
"Wasn't our intentions to nerf the game into the dirt and make it miserable to play. Should be fixed by Season 10. Also we load every item in the game for every character on screen so that's why you can't have more stash space."
"Wasn't our intentions to nerf the game into the dirt and make it miserable to play. Should be fixed by Season 10. Also we load every item in the game for every character on screen so that's why you can't have more stash space."
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07-23-2023, 10:58 PM
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Lol I told y’all that Blizzard’s “diversity” and politics has filled the ranks with incompetent people. They screwed OW players, hearthstone players, blew it with DI, had a sex scandal that lead to a chic killing herself, banned a player for speaking out against groomers, banned another player a few years ago for speaking out against China’s slave market…buncha damn commies. This will be the last blizzard game I ever invest in.
THey lied to us too. They tried to cover up their screw up by saying “Oh yeah, we nerfed the classes because we were going to nerf the enemies later”. lol No. You underestimated the nerfs and overestimated how much of a difference malignant hearts were going to make, and didn’t even consider how bad the eternal realm is now, which leads me to…
What they should do is give us some real damn rewards for the season, like armor sets, or let us keep the malignant hearts. Instead all we get is what are essentially underwear.
THey lied to us too. They tried to cover up their screw up by saying “Oh yeah, we nerfed the classes because we were going to nerf the enemies later”. lol No. You underestimated the nerfs and overestimated how much of a difference malignant hearts were going to make, and didn’t even consider how bad the eternal realm is now, which leads me to…
What they should do is give us some real damn rewards for the season, like armor sets, or let us keep the malignant hearts. Instead all we get is what are essentially underwear.
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honestly I just stopped playing, don't really have any interest in it. Didn't even finish the campaign or get to level 60.
I feel like there are more interesting games out there to be playing. Can't be assed to play a season either since my playing time is limited. D2R still feels more interesting to me lol ... I feel like no Diablo game at this point will ever top it so I'm just going to be left disappointed. I feel like they should just create expansions for D2R and introduce new characters and areas, and support fan made modding.
I feel like there are more interesting games out there to be playing. Can't be assed to play a season either since my playing time is limited. D2R still feels more interesting to me lol ... I feel like no Diablo game at this point will ever top it so I'm just going to be left disappointed. I feel like they should just create expansions for D2R and introduce new characters and areas, and support fan made modding.
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