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post 1687101093 07-24-2023, 10:42 AM
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Data research of covid vax?

Anyone have links to data research proving the clot shots didn't do jack to prevent anything?
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Well, they redefined the word vaccine to no longer include the word immunity, just so the injections could be called a "vaccine". Thats a huge red flag right there.
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I don't bookmark such things and I won't be searching for you OP. But a year ago they knew the shots slightly decreased infection for about 1 month, then went to almost no protection immediately after. People who've been jabbed more have caught the virus at higher rates than people jabbed 1-2 times.
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Nope, just lots of real-world results that show the vaccinesareeffective...


https://www.dshs.texas.gov/covid-19-...9-cases-deaths



.health.ny.gov/covid-19-breakthrough-data



https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/u...ination-status
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Nope, just lots of real-world results that show the vaccinesareeffective...


https://www.dshs.texas.gov/covid-19-...9-cases-deaths



.health.ny.gov/covid-19-breakthrough-data



https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/u...ination-status
That’s because they stopped counting the deaths for vaccinated, & set different markers for the PCR test of the vaccinated as well.

https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-...-users-2020-05


The jabs (not a vaccine by definition) aren’t helping. In fact they are causing far more deaths than any of the vaccines throughout history have caused COMBINED.

Every jabbedcel I know continues to get sick over & over again. I haven’t been sick since Dec.2019.
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Originally Posted By Paul
That’s because they stopped counting the deaths for vaccinated, & set different markers for the PCR test of the vaccinated as well.
If they stopped counting deaths for vaccinated... then why do all these graphs still show deaths for vaccinated?

Your linked memo saysnothingabout vaccination status.
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Originally Posted By Paul
That’s because they stopped counting the deaths for vaccinated, & set different markers for the PCR test of the vaccinated as well.

https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-...-users-2020-05


The jabs (not a vaccine by definition) aren’t helping. In fact they are causing far more deaths than any of the vaccines throughout history have caused COMBINED.

Every jabbedcel I know continues to get sick over & over again. I haven’t been sick since Dec.2019.
Just lol @ MudBloods.
The memo is a reminder to read assays' directions for use.
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theres a thread right next to this about them fudging covid numbers.
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Originally Posted By aal04⏩
theres a thread right next to this about them fudging covid numbers.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
If they stopped counting deaths for vaccinated... then why do all these graphs still show deaths for vaccinated?

Your linked memo saysnothingabout vaccination status.
Repping you on recharge for blowing this stupidity out of the water with tangible evidence.



But please don't engage with Paul Drool. He likes to present his anti-scientific BS, is incapable of interacting with scientifically literate rebuttals of his claims, then presents it again weeks later as if no one said anything. It's very infuriating and a real waste of time.
Back off, Warchild.

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Won't be able to find that data. Can find plenty of examples of how they lied and/or misrepresented information regarding the impact on younger people however. Particularly regarding the need for boosters.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
If they stopped counting deaths for vaccinated... then why do all these graphs still show deaths for vaccinated?

Your linked memo saysnothingabout vaccination status.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...h-cases-501821

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...kthrough-cases

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/cdc-...lieb-says.html

If you think those numbers you're posting reflect anything close to reality, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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LeBron's son suffers cardiac arrest at practice.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/co...onger-ICU.html
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...h-cases-501821

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...kthrough-cases

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/cdc-...lieb-says.html

If you think those numbers you're posting reflect anything close to reality, I've got a bridge to sell you.
According to your article: "But on 1 May, the agency changed its strategy to investigate only breakthrough cases that led to hospitalization or death." If that's the case, then all of his graphs of death and hospitalizations would be correct, which shows a huge disparity. The only one you would have ground to argue against would be the graph for infections.
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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩
According to your article: "But on 1 May, the agency changed its strategy to investigate only breakthrough cases that led to hospitalization or death." If that's the case, then all of his graphs of death and hospitalizations would be correct, which shows a huge disparity. The only one you would have ground to argue against would be the graph for infections.
Again we are talking about cherry picking here. They were also playing games with the death numbers as well. If you think these numbers reflect reality, well...sorry, every village has one I guess.

"coding logic" error:https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-covid-deaths

When Leana Wen and the NYT both admit that COVID deaths were overcounted, they were overcounted.

https://nypost.com/2023/01/14/dr-lea...g-overcounted/

https://truthpress.com/news/nyt-admi...nt-from-covid/


The numbers are bull****.
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Do you mean the failure of the trump funded and supported mRNA vaccines?
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They are only counting you as "vaccinated" if it has been at least 14 days since your last shot. So if you drop dead of the vax or anything else in 3 days you are in the "unvaccinated" column. The fact that they are pulling shenanigans like this tells you they are being dishonest about everything.

Dr. Joeseph Mercola: CDC Now Lists Some Vaccinated Deaths as Unvaccinated

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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
Again we are talking about cherry picking here. They were also playing games with the death numbers as well. If you think these numbers reflect reality, well...sorry, every village has one I guess.

"coding logic" error:https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-covid-deaths

When Leana Wen and the NYT both admit that COVID deaths were overcounted, they were overcounted.

https://nypost.com/2023/01/14/dr-lea...g-overcounted/

https://truthpress.com/news/nyt-admi...nt-from-covid/


The numbers are bull****.
Yeah these articles are about COVID deaths vs dying with COVID deaths, which I get. But they don't really address the graphs regarding deaths of vaccinated vs unvaccinated that nutsy posted.
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
LeBron's son suffers cardiac arrest at practice.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/co...onger-ICU.html
And...? Other than a moronic post from Musk, that article says nothing about cause of the cardiac arrest, or even if he was vaccinated

Do you really think cardiac arrest didn't exist prior to 2021?

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has estimated thatevery year in the United States, approximately 2000 patients younger than 25 years will die of Sudden Cardiac Arrest."
Date: April 2012
https://publications.aap.org/pediatr...eck=redirected
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Originally Posted By JDsSpoons⏩
Do you mean the failure of the trump funded and supported mRNA vaccines?
They weren't a failure, as previously posted. Your endless need to lie is just laughable and pathetic at this point
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...h-cases-501821

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...kthrough-cases

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/cdc-...lieb-says.html

If you think those numbers you're posting reflect anything close to reality, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Those articles literally prove my posted data sources... "The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) tracks onlybreakthrough cases that lead to hospitalization and death..."

I cited statistics from multiple sources, you posted about an imaginary bridge for sale.
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Here’s some data on the Covid injections for you.



https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/a...4/2234/7188747



A comprehensive nationwide study on the incidence and outcomes of COVID-19 vaccination-related myocarditis (VRM) is in need.

Methods and results

Among 44 276 704 individuals with at least 1 dose of COVID-19 vaccination, the incidence and clinical courses of VRM cases confirmed by the Expert Adjudication Committee of the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency were analyzed.COVID-19 VRM was confirmed in 480 cases (1.08 cases per 100 000 persons). Vaccination-related myocarditis incidence was significantly higher in men than in women (1.35 vs. 0.82 per 100 000 persons, P < 0.001) and in mRNA vaccines than in other vaccines (1.46 vs. 0.14 per 100 000 persons, P < 0.001). and lowest in females over 70 years (0.16 cases per 100 000 persons).Severe VRM was identified in 95 cases (19.8% of total VRM, 0.22 per 100 000 vaccinated persons), 85 intensive care unit admission (17.7%), 36 fulminant myocarditis (7.5%), 21 extracorporeal membrane oxygenation therapy (4.4%), 21 deaths (4.4%), and 1 heart transplantation (0.2%). Eight out of 21 deaths were sudden cardiac death (SCD) attributable to VRM proved by an autopsy, and all cases of SCD attributable to VRM were aged under 45 years and received mRNA vaccines.

Conclusion

Although COVID-19 VRM was rare and showed relatively favorable clinical courses, severe VRM was found in 19.8% of all VRM cases. Moreover, SCD should be closely monitored as a potentially fatal complication of COVID-19 vaccination.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
They weren't a failure, as previously posted. Your endless need to lie is just laughable and pathetic at this point
Weren’t a failure


Administered hundreds of millions of doses then had more deaths and cases than the previous year when zero doses had been administered





Pick…….two, I guess??
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Weren’t a failure

Administered hundreds of millions of doses then had more deaths and cases than the previous year when zero doses had been administered

Pick…….two, I guess??
Look at the graphs again. When the vast majority of per-capita deaths areUnvaccinatedafter vaccines became available, how the hell does that show vaccines are a failure?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Here’s some data on the Covid injections for you.

Among 44 276 704 individuals with at least 1 dose of COVID-19 vaccination, the incidence and clinical courses of VRM cases confirmed by the Expert Adjudication Committee of the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency were analyzed. ... Severe VRM was identified in 95 cases.
... 21 deaths ...
So... 95 "severe VRM" cases out of 44 million people? What are you trying to prove with 0.0002% of vaccine recipients?

21 deaths... 0.000047%. Meanwhile, Covid death rate was 1.11% overall. That's24,000 times greater than the VRM death rate.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Look at the graphs again. When the vast majority of per-capita deaths areUnvaccinatedafter vaccines became available, how the hell does that show vaccines are a failure?
I’ve already given you evidence of how the vaccination status of hospital patients marked substantial amounts of people who were “vaccinated” as unvaccinated…multiple times. Clearly vaccinated and unvaccinated people were having serious issues from Covid even after the injections. And again….we administered hundreds of millions of doses then saw MORE cases and MORE deaths in that year than we did in the year when none had been administered. Name one other treatment where you could watch that happen and call it successful.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Here’s some data on the Covid injections for you.



https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/a...4/2234/7188747



A comprehensive nationwide study on the incidence and outcomes of COVID-19 vaccination-related myocarditis (VRM) is in need.

Methods and results

Among 44 276 704 individuals with at least 1 dose of COVID-19 vaccination, the incidence and clinical courses of VRM cases confirmed by the Expert Adjudication Committee of the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency were analyzed.COVID-19 VRM was confirmed in 480 cases (1.08 cases per 100 000 persons). Vaccination-related myocarditis incidence was significantly higher in men than in women (1.35 vs. 0.82 per 100 000 persons, P < 0.001) and in mRNA vaccines than in other vaccines (1.46 vs. 0.14 per 100 000 persons, P < 0.001). and lowest in females over 70 years (0.16 cases per 100 000 persons).Severe VRM was identified in 95 cases (19.8% of total VRM, 0.22 per 100 000 vaccinated persons), 85 intensive care unit admission (17.7%), 36 fulminant myocarditis (7.5%), 21 extracorporeal membrane oxygenation therapy (4.4%), 21 deaths (4.4%), and 1 heart transplantation (0.2%). Eight out of 21 deaths were sudden cardiac death (SCD) attributable to VRM proved by an autopsy, and all cases of SCD attributable to VRM were aged under 45 years and received mRNA vaccines.

Conclusion

Although COVID-19 VRM was rare and showed relatively favorable clinical courses, severe VRM was found in 19.8% of all VRM cases. Moreover, SCD should be closely monitored as a potentially fatal complication of COVID-19 vaccination.
Given the typical incidence rates are 15-20 per 100,000 per year, I dunno if this is particularly alarming.

Even less so when compared with infection.

1 case of severe myocarditis out of (a little less than) 500k people is good to hear.

8 deaths out of 44 million is even better. Good to see more data that clearly demonstrates the vaccine's safety record.

It was 21 deaths (8 sudden cardiac deaths), over 5.1 million person-years (44 million people over 42 day window, or 11.5% of a year). So 4.1 deaths per million person-years for a single vaccination (and worth pointing out similar studies in Israel and the US found no deaths).

To give some comparison, food allergies result in fatal anaphylaxis at a rate of 0.63-6.68 deaths per million person-years, and US gun deaths among children occur at a rate of 35 deaths per million person-years, and child motor vehicle fatalities are at around 18.1 per million person-years in the US.

Concerns about vaccine safety are reasonable, but perspective is essential.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Given the typical incidence rates are 15-20 per 100,000 per year, I dunno if this is particularly alarming.

Even less so when compared with infection.

1 case of severe myocarditis out of (a little less than) 500k people is good to hear.

8 deaths out of 44 million is even better. Good to see more data that clearly demonstrates the vaccine's safety record.

It was 21 deaths (8 sudden cardiac deaths), over 5.1 million person-years (44 million people over 42 day window, or 11.5% of a year). So 4.1 deaths per million person-years for a single vaccination (and worth pointing out similar studies in Israel and the US found no deaths).

To give some comparison, food allergies result in fatal anaphylaxis at a rate of 0.63-6.68 deaths per million person-years, and US gun deaths among children occur at a rate of 35 deaths per million person-years, and child motor vehicle fatalities are at around 18.1 per million person-years in the US.

Concerns about vaccine safety are reasonable, but perspective is essential.
Agreed. Make sure you get your boosters this fall!
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