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Thread: Can anti vaxxers provide evidence that athlete heart conditions are vax related?

post 1687476313 07-30-2023, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
That is evidence. It happening after a catalyst fulfills the requirement for evidence.

It's like you're asking for a source that the sun caused my sunburn.
No... it's like claiming vaccine caused sunburn, even though sunburns existed long before the vaccine was even developed
post 1687476403 07-30-2023, 04:30 PM
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post 1687476433 07-30-2023, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
Latest study confirms a big increase in heart issues. It’s been proven.
Please cite this study...
post 1687476853 07-30-2023, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By DuncSurf⏩
Of course, nobody is going to officially blame the vaccine, but we all know its the reason.



https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroo...heart-attacks/
There is something very different about how this virus affects the cardiac risks,” said Susan Cheng, MD, MPH, director of the Institute for Research on Healthy Aging in the Department of Cardiology at the Smidt Heart Institute and senior and co-corresponding author of the study. “The difference is likely due to a combination of stress and inflammation, arising from predisposing factors and the way this virus biologically interacts with the cardiovascular system.”
post 1687476973 07-30-2023, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
There is something very different about how this virus affects the cardiac risks,” said Susan Cheng, MD, MPH, director of the Institute for Research on Healthy Aging in the Department of Cardiology at the Smidt Heart Institute and senior and co-corresponding author of the study. “The difference is likely due to a combination of stress and inflammation, arising from predisposing factors and the way this virus biologically interacts with the cardiovascular system.”
Oh ok then.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/...id-19-vaccines
post 1687477703 07-30-2023, 04:50 PM
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Not saying all jabbie’s hearts will blow and they will drop any day now, I think it was just a colossal money grab, but imagine defending pharma online for free, when they don’t even have to defend themselves in city thanks to immunity
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post 1687477773 07-30-2023, 04:51 PM
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CDC At 'Precipice' Of Recommending Annual Covid-19 Shots
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/c...covid-19-shots

"Immunity from both vaccines and infection wanes over time. The only way to stay ahead of the virus is to continue to update the composition of our vaccines and administer them in a regular cadence. Although this strategy is critical, with our current generation of vaccines, it also requires immense resources for mounting frequent vaccination campaigns—at a time when antivaccination sentiment continues to grow and the public’s appetite for regular vaccinations has waned," Health Secretary Xavier Becerra and former White House official Dr. Ashish Jha wrote in an editorial.
"I am a rational animal who occupies the intermediary position between angel and beast"

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post 1687477923 07-30-2023, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Yet cardiac arrest was a leading cause of death in athletes... prior to 2020. So maybe rely on actual Facts instead of your memory.

"Sudden cardiac death (SCD) is the most frequent medical cause of sudden death in athletes..."
Date:2016
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/


And it was nothing new to anyone under 35...
"Sudden Cardiac Arrest in a Young Population: Not So Unpredictable"
Date:2019
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.118.011700
Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
There is something very different about how this virus affects the cardiac risks,” said Susan Cheng, MD, MPH, director of the Institute for Research on Healthy Aging in the Department of Cardiology at the Smidt Heart Institute and senior and co-corresponding author of the study. “The difference is likely due to a combination of stress and inflammation, arising from predisposing factors and the way this virus biologically interacts with the cardiovascular system.”
Hehe.
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post 1687477983 07-30-2023, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By DuncSurf⏩
Oh ok then.

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/...id-19-vaccines
Yeah but
"the CDC concluded the benefits of the vaccine greatly outweigh the risks"

"309 people have been hospitalized, with all but 14 discharged so far. There have been no reported deaths."

...compared with a known significant relative risk increase for going unvaccinated, and an observed risk of heart problems which you might get from covid itself.
post 1687478133 07-30-2023, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Hehe.
The thing is which some people don't accept is these public health phD's are pretty smart. If they could prove the vaccine was dangerous they would, because their entire focus in their life is public health. It would make their career.
post 1687478243 07-30-2023, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
Yeah but
"the CDC concluded the benefits of the vaccine greatly outweigh the risks"

"309 people have been hospitalized, with all but 14 discharged so far. There have been no reported deaths."

...compared with a known significant relative risk increase for going unvaccinated, and an observed risk of heart problems which you might get from covid itself.
imagine giving the cdc any credibility after the last 3 years lmao
post 1687478363 07-30-2023, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By DuncSurf⏩
imagine giving the cdc any credibility after the last 3 years lmao
So, you gonna post any evidence, cuck?
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post 1687478553 07-30-2023, 05:07 PM
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op hitting the percs extra hard this evening



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post 1687478573 07-30-2023, 05:08 PM
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[QUOTE=DrugsToGetBig post_id=1687478553]op hitting the percs extra hard this evening[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]



jfl @ this vaccinecel cope











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The phucking irony lmao.

You wanna give it a try, Haus?

Care to give the OP a shot?
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post 1687478713 07-30-2023, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
So, you gonna post any evidence, cuck?
You cant call anti vax people cucks, its literally the exact opposite of what they are. You are the cuck, stop coping lmao
post 1687478733 07-30-2023, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted By DuncSurf⏩
You cant call anti vax people cucks, its literally the exact opposite of what they are. You are the cuck, stop coping lmao
That's what I thought, cuck.
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post 1687478783 07-30-2023, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Username: DrugsToGetBig.

The phucking irony lmao.

You wanna give it a try, Haus?

Care to give the OP a shot?
you really trying to make that an argument retard?

Drugs that have been around for years and tested compared to a covid vaccine that was suddenly drummed up in a wake of a "Pandemic" that wasn't thoroughly tested.

Straight fuking retarded logic you Guinea pig.

Must be that "Mah tradie job needed da covidz becauz I in da unionz."

Useless sack of ****. Your boy must be so proud of you.
post 1687478863 07-30-2023, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
That's what I thought, cuck.
lol the vax made you a little angry huh little guy
post 1687479053 07-30-2023, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By LuigiMiami631⏩
you really trying to make that an argument retard?

Drugs that have been around for years and tested compared to a covid vaccine that was suddenly drummed up in a wake of a "Pandemic" that wasn't thoroughly tested.

Straight fuking retarded logic you Guinea pig.

Must be that "Mah tradie job needed da covidz becauz I in da unionz."

Useless sack of ****. Your boy must be so proud of you.
Says the guy who posted the most low IQ response to the OP that had completely nothing to do with it hahaha.

Mirin the retardation to keep going.
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post 1687479463 07-30-2023, 05:30 PM
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Do we really believe evidence is readily available for public consumption? The medical, scientific, and political establishment have been lying about everything related to this thing since 2020, why should anyone believe they are going to be honest now?
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
LOL at this playbook. Inject doubt into everything to persuade someone to think a postmortem is impossible to have to prove a spurious point when it’s over and when there is zero incentive to not have lessons learned.

It’s been widely accepted that the lockdowns were worse for society with mainstream outlets posting stories about it left right and center. If this nonsense about everyone dying from heart attacks was real, why wouldn’t it be all over the news?

In before conspiracy theory.
You must be unaware of how much big pharma contributes to politicians in every country that matters on the planet. Miring your naïveté (not srs, get fukt vax shill)
post 1687501383 07-31-2023, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted By DuncSurf⏩
Of course, nobody is going to officially blame the vaccine, but we all know its the reason.
By the second year of the pandemic, the "observed" compared to "predicted" rates of heart attack death had increased by 29.9% for adults ages 25-44, by 19.6% for adults ages 45-64, and by 13.7% for adults age 65 and older.
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroo...heart-attacks/
It's cute that you omitted this statement, which completelydisprovesyour position:

"In the year before the pandemic, there were 143,787 heart attack deaths;within the first year of the pandemic, this number had increased by 14%to 164,096."
Reminder: There were no vaccines in the "first year of the pandemic"... So you're claiming a time-traveling vaccine caused heart attacks before it even existed?

Meanwhile, the cited report saysnothingabout vaccines.
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VaxCels just don’t sleep well at night knowing their hearts are literal ticking time bombs.
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
LOL at this playbook. Inject doubt into everything to persuade someone to think a postmortem is impossible to have to prove a spurious point when it’s over and when there is zero incentive to not have lessons learned.

It’s been widely accepted that the lockdowns were worse for society with mainstream outlets posting stories about it left right and center. If this nonsense about everyone dying from heart attacks was real, why wouldn’t it be all over the news?

In before conspiracy theory.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
The phucking irony lmao.

You wanna give it a try, Haus?

Care to give the OP a shot?
No need. OP already took the shot.

Vaxcucks gonna Vaxcope
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Please cite this study...
I’m not your babysitter.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
The burden of proof is on you
OPGenesis -- aka nutsy54.
"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."

1,151+ pages of peoples accounts of Covid-19 vaccine damage:
https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
The burden of proof is on you
Can you tell us why anyone should get the jab?
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
LOL at this playbook. Inject doubt into everything to persuade someone to think a postmortem is impossible to have to prove a spurious point when it’s over and when there is zero incentive to not have lessons learned.

It’s been widely accepted that the lockdowns were worse for society with mainstream outlets posting stories about it left right and center. If this nonsense about everyone dying from heart attacks was real, why wouldn’t it be all over the news?

In before conspiracy theory.
There's been like one or two stories saying the lockdowns were pointless. Has a single politician admitted to being wrong? Any "expert?"
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
The thing is which some people don't accept is these public health phD's are pretty smart. If they could prove the vaccine was dangerous they would, because their entire focus in their life is public health. It would make their career.
Their focus is making money. Which they did.
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