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post 1687476073 07-30-2023, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Wat?

Is your argument that the things covid infection seem to cause are scarier than a covid infection, so covid infection is therefore nbd?
No, my argument is that you're full of shiit and I'm laughing at you.
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post 1687476613 07-30-2023, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
No, my argument is that you're full of shiit and I'm laughing at you.
Okay. No thoughts on the paper though?
post 1687476913 07-30-2023, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Okay. No thoughts on the paper though?
No.

I would rather LOL at you.
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post 1687477653 07-30-2023, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
No.

I would rather LOL at you.
post 1687477993 07-30-2023, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Aight.
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post 1687478223 07-30-2023, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Aight.
At this point it’s best to just let them spread their message and convince whoever they’re gonna convince. If they want to freak out and keep getting boosted every year then by all means…they should have at it.
post 1687478313 07-30-2023, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
At this point it’s best to just let them spread their message and convince whoever they’re gonna convince. If they want to freak out and keep getting boosted every year then by all means…they should have at it.
Seems like it's others iTT freaking out, tbh.

We're learning more and more about this virus as time goes on; there's no need to be upset.
post 1687478403 07-30-2023, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Seems like it's others iTT freaking out, tbh.

We're learning more and more about this virus as time goes on; there's no need to be upset.
We're not upset. We're laughing at you.
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post 1687478663 07-30-2023, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Seems like it's others iTT freaking out, tbh.

We're learning more and more about this virus as time goes on; there's no need to be upset.
Lold at thinking I’m upset. I wasn’t worried about the virus in 2020 and I’m certainly not worried about it now. If you want to share all these studies showing how terrible it is then go ahead. And if anyone thinks they need to keep getting boosters they should keep doing so.
post 1687478923 07-30-2023, 05:19 PM
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Mitochondria are your life blood, so this is very important. All energy you need is made at this level by healthy cells, if they stop producing ATP - you're just done.

Knowing who is at risk from covid, this isn't shocking. Someone unhealthy with compromised mitochondria, if covid weakens that further - yeah, that is potentially deadly. Makes sense why old sicker people were dying but young healthy people with functioning mitochondria easily overcame it.
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post 1687478963 07-30-2023, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Okay. No thoughts on the paper though?
My thoughts are that I had it twice and I'm unvaccinated, I guess I'm ****ed?
post 1687479013 07-30-2023, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Seems like it's others iTT freaking out, tbh.

We're learning more and more about this virus as time goes on; there's no need to be upset.
You DO know that 2024 is around the corner? The scare tactics aren't going to work.

Not that they really worked on those who had common sense back in March of 2020. Especially when the Floyd riots exposed just how "dangerous" this virus was......
post 1687479023 07-30-2023, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
My thoughts are that I had it twice and I'm unvaccinated, I guess I'm ****ed?
Unlikely, then or now. Then you would have been barely 40 and you've mentioned you are lean and in good condition.

However, if you were older or fatter -- and let's be clear, this is a lot of Americans -- that group would have concern for sure.
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post 1687479183 07-30-2023, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Lold at thinking I’m upset. I wasn’t worried about the virus in 2020 and I’m certainly not worried about it now. If you want to share all these studies showing how terrible it is then go ahead. And if anyone thinks they need to keep getting boosters they should keep doing so.
I'll take this as a "thanks for sharing"

You're welcome
post 1687479433 07-30-2023, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Mitochondria are your life blood, so this is very important. All energy you need is made at this level by healthy cells, if they stop producing ATP - you're just done.

Knowing who is at risk from covid, this isn't shocking. Someone unhealthy with compromised mitochondria, if covid weakens that further - yeah, that is potentially deadly. Makes sense why old sicker people were dying but young healthy people with functioning mitochondria easily overcame it.
I think you might be conflating risk of death or risk of severe disease with "risk from covid". Those groups aren't the majority of people, or the majority of cases.

Lots of young people are getting it and will likely continue to get it.

What we're seeing are health implications beyond acute infection, in younger people, who had mild infections.

Sone of who didn't/don't die aren't fine.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I think you might be conflating risk of death or risk of severe disease with "risk from covid". Those groups aren't the majority of people, or the majority of cases.

Lots of young people are getting it and will likely continue to get it.

What we're seeing are health implications beyond acute infection, in younger people, who had mild infections.

Sone of who didn't/don't die aren't fine.
"Some." What you're saying is that the majority are ****ed?
post 1687483883 07-30-2023, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Lots of young people are getting it and will likely continue to get it.
And in almost all cases: they'll be fine.

Some who didn't/don't die might have longer lasting repercussions, but again, nothing we've seen has shown this with younger and healthy people.
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post 1687484893 07-30-2023, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
And in almost all cases: they'll be fine.

Some who didn't/don't die might have longer lasting repercussions, but again, nothing we've seen has shown this with younger and healthy people.
Not according to Opie. According to him hundreds of millions of people suffered brain damage from Covid. He’s shared studies that concluded over 17% of people who got Covid had symptoms a year later. Now prefers to talk about how it wrecks people’s mitochondria. No telling what he’ll share next…
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
And in almost all cases: they'll be fine.

Some who didn't/don't die might have longer lasting repercussions, but again, nothing we've seen has shown this with younger and healthy people.
That's incorrect. Brain damage has been demonstrated in younger, otherwise healthy, people.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Seems like it's others iTT freaking out, tbh.

We're learning more and more about this virus as time goes on; there's no need to be upset.
You desperately cling to the virus while the world has moved on, including fatties and elderly who had severe Covid back in 2020- mid 2021. You're fun to make fun of, like the dork in a junior high class that tattletales out loud on people to the teacher and plays with toys other kids gave up on by 3rd grade.

You think you're reporting something new but you're not.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Not according to Opie. According to him hundreds of millions of people suffered brain damage from Covid. He’s shared studies that concluded over 17% of people who got Covid had symptoms a year later. Now prefers to talk about how it wrecks people’s mitochondria. No telling what he’ll share next…
The estimates of long covid are typically in the range of 10-20%.

You seem to not like those estimates but haven't stated why nor shared anything that counters.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I think you might be conflating risk of death or risk of severe disease with "risk from covid". Those groups aren't the majority of people, or the majority of cases.

Lots of young people are getting it and will likely continue to get it.

What we're seeing are health implications beyond acute infection, in younger people, who had mild infections.

Sone of who didn't/don't die aren't fine.
You forgot to say honk honk, clown. You gotta stop pretending like it's having long lasting effects on more than a teeny tiny fraction of the population. It's literally a common cold virus now, and if we were to average it out everyone in the US has had it 3 times already, though it appears that's slowed down because of immunity through repeated exposure.

Thanks for the lulz through your hysteria though.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The estimates of long covid are typically in the range of 10-20%.

You seem to not like those estimates but haven't stated why nor shared anything that counters.
Because most adults I know have had Covid and only one had a rough time with it for more than a week. And he got the delta variant while working an extremely stressful job, not sleeping good, consuming lots of alcohol, and just generally not taking care of himself. For him it took a while to get back to his normal self in the gym(I’d say a little over a month). Every other person, including my elderly father who has beaten colon cancer, has diabetes, and has heart problems best Covid and didn’t have any lingering effects. If “long Covid” was really as prevalent as panicels like yourself like to exclaim then lots of people I know would’ve suffered from it. Same with pretty much all the people on this forum, they beat it quickly with little to no issues. So my reality tells that your estimates are trash.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Because most adults I know have had Covid and only one had a rough time with it for more than a week. And he got the delta variant while working an extremely stressful job, not sleeping good, consuming lots of alcohol, and just generally not taking care of himself. For him it took a while to get back to his normal self in the gym(I’d say a little over a month). Every other person, including my elderly father who has beaten colon cancer, has diabetes, and has heart problems best Covid and didn’t have any lingering effects. If “long Covid” was really as prevalent as panicels like yourself like to exclaim then lots of people I know would’ve suffered from it. Same with pretty much all the people on this forum, they beat it quickly with little to no issues. So my reality tells that your estimates are trash.
Ahh. Thanks!
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
You forgot to say honk honk, clown. You gotta stop pretending like it's having long lasting effects on more than a teeny tiny fraction of the population. It's literally a common cold virus now, and if we were to average it out everyone in the US has had it 3 times already, though it appears that's slowed down because of immunity through repeated exposure.

Thanks for the lulz through your hysteria though.
I think you're misusing the term "literally".

But this study does more to dispel the myth that covid is just the flu.

Plenty out there already that demonstrates covid is not a rhinovirus, too.
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As we see more & more evidence & truth comes out of the jab doing harm & killing those who took it..you will see people that are paid to go into forum’s & social media & conjure half ass’d studies to blame “Covid” so governments & pharmaceutical companies remain protected from liability.

JLC is one of these people.

His post history speaks for itself.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I think you're misusing the term "literally".

But this study does more to dispel the myth that covid is just the flu.

Plenty out there already that demonstrates covid is not a rhinovirus, too.
Perhaps "literally" should be taken out of my previous post. Okay, it's a common cold virus now. It's rarely anything more than a head cold for the last 20 months or so, and asymptomatic infection is the most common occurrence, particularly in young people. It's far less than a flu, but it wasn't the first year and several months.

It's a shame elderly and people immunocompromised people weren't given cheap, effective compounds like NAC and L-Arginine to protect them from damage during that time. We knew in 2020 NAC was effective at preventing damage to the lungs from the virus (which makes perfect sense if one knows anything about NAC), and the effectiveness of L-Arginine in protecting endothelium cells by causing increase in Nitric Oxide. We knew higher concentrations of Nitric Oxide was effective against the virus in Spring 2020, but alas there's no money in either of those OTC compounds.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Perhaps "literally" should be taken out of my previous post. Okay, it's a common cold virus now. It's rarely anything more than a head cold for the last 20 months or so, and asymptomatic infection is the most common occurrence, particularly in young people. It's far less than a flu, but it wasn't the first year and several months.

It's a shame elderly and people immunocompromised people weren't given cheap, effective compounds like NAC and L-Arginine to protect them from damage during that time. We knew in 2020 NAC was effective at preventing damage to the lungs from the virus (which makes perfect sense if one knows anything about NAC), and the effectiveness of L-Arginine in protecting endothelium cells by causing increase in Nitric Oxide. We knew higher concentrations of Nitric Oxide was effective against the virus in Spring 2020, but alas there's no money in either of those OTC compounds.
You forgot ivermectin.
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