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Vivek wants to increase legal immigration LUL
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Elon: “We should make it easier for people to come here.”
Vivek: “I agree! We should have merit-based immigration. There seems to be an anti-legal immigration backlash in the Republican Party and I’ll be bringing this up at the debates.”
Yeah those fruit pickers make sure we stop them. Good paying middle class white color jobs? Make sure we replace native born Americans with foreigners for those. Not to even mention the negative cultural and political consequences. Imagine what a ph@gg0t you must be to have been promoting this guy
Elon: “We should make it easier for people to come here.”
Vivek: “I agree! We should have merit-based immigration. There seems to be an anti-legal immigration backlash in the Republican Party and I’ll be bringing this up at the debates.”
Yeah those fruit pickers make sure we stop them. Good paying middle class white color jobs? Make sure we replace native born Americans with foreigners for those. Not to even mention the negative cultural and political consequences. Imagine what a ph@gg0t you must be to have been promoting this guy
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
How can someone claim to be a culture warrior when you're advocating for a policy to bring millions of new left wing voters here every year?As I said in another post....just another open borders globalist using the cultural wars for (R) retards to masquerade who he really is.
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Tbh it's the maga cucks who love this guy because he never says anything negative about Trump and is probably trying for a cabinet position
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
They're so offended that a more conservative candidate dared challenge precious Blumpf that they're high on a pro-immigration Indian.How can someone claim to be a culture warrior when you're advocating for a policy to bring millions of new left wing voters here every year.
Tbh it's the maga cucks who love this guy because he never says anything negative about Trump and is probably trying to a cabinet position
Tbh it's the maga cucks who love this guy because he never says anything negative about Trump and is probably trying to a cabinet position
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Don't see what is wrong in promoting legal immigration. The US can never realistically shut off immigration.
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What’s the problem with merit based legal immigration?
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
You can't be.How can someone claim to be a culture warrior when you're advocating for a policy to bring millions of new left wing voters here every year?
Tbh it's the maga cucks who love this guy because he never says anything negative about Trump and is probably trying for a cabinet position
Tbh it's the maga cucks who love this guy because he never says anything negative about Trump and is probably trying for a cabinet position
No different than Rand Paul attacking AOC over socialism, etc while he favors amnesty/open orders...which ends him and empowers her. Its almost like they are all working for the same donors???
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
You might want to check out the voting patterns of immigrants. Indians vote 70% for Dems, only blacks vote for Ds at a higher clip. Well also they're neck and neck with Jews.Don't see what is wrong in promoting legal immigration. The US can never realistically shut off immigration.
But yeah you're a useless cucked ph@gg0t so these numbers mean nothing to you. You're more pathetic and retarded than a liberal. Your great grandparents would hate what a ph@gg0t you are lol.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
Taking away good jobs for Americans, more Dem voters, further degradation of American culture and traditionWhat’s the problem with merit based legal immigration?
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
Legal immigration, at its current rate, ends American sovereignty and the constitution. Thats fact that can not be debated.Don't see what is wrong in promoting legal immigration. The US can never realistically shut off immigration.
Now, if you want to bring in 100K of the worlds best and brightest, thats doable and makes sense. However, our current decades long million + rates are not.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
If you're a leftist, nothing. In fact, it's the best thing you can wish for.What’s the problem with merit based legal immigration?
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
It's already over. The last chance to stop from crossing the rubicon was probably the 90s at the absolute latest. Now we're just accelerating or slowing the demiseLegal immigration, at its current rate, ends American sovereignty and the constitution. Thats fact that can not be debated.
Now, if you want to bring in 100K of the worlds best and brightest, thats doable and makes sense. However, our current decades long million + rates are not.
Now, if you want to bring in 100K of the worlds best and brightest, thats doable and makes sense. However, our current decades long million + rates are not.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
I think if the border was secured and immigration was significantly curbed in the early 2000's, we could have fallen short of crossing the rubicon. But now, our best option is to just try to stop the bleeding/stall.It's already over. The last chance to stop from crossing the rubicon was probably the 90s at the absolute latest. Now we're just accelerating or slowing the demise
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He is definitely way more liberal than he lets on. 37 year old Yale graduate biotech bro is not a hardcore conservative. But he has to play the game to stand a chance.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
He's a Pharma guy, and was a Soros fellowshiphttps://www.pdsoros.org/meet-the-fel...ivek-ramaswamyHe is definitely way more liberal than he lets on. 37 year old Yale graduate biotech bro is not a hardcore conservative. But he has to play the game to stand a chance.
He says lots of good things, but looks to me like those Rubio, Scott, Nikki types who jumped on the Tea party bandwagon, when they really weren't populists
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07-31-2023, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
It's bad because corporations can use legal immigration to leverage the domestic workforce into accepting less.What’s the problem with merit based legal immigration?
I understand Vivek wanting legal immigration, he is Indian, I expect the same from most Hispanic candidates.
Legal immigration also means that we need less American-born which will dilute all rights for all Americans.
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Originally Posted By ColdandChilly⏩
I don’t buy this argument. America has always been a nation of immigrants. In Europe I could see this point of view, ironically they have the most liberal immigration policies of all, but the American experiment is not rooted in millennia old homogenous tradition. Anyone who claims so is coping hard.Taking away good jobs for Americans, more Dem voters, further degradation of American culture and tradition
Plus the key is merit based. There should be rigorous screening of applicants before they come over. They should be held to a high standard and made to embrace American values instead of just being let in. Vivek clearly fits that criteria.
My grandfather came here from Sicily in the 1950s and not only did he consistently vote Republican, he served in the army, opened businesses, created jobs and was the proudest motherfukin American I’ve ever met srs. He refused to be called an Italian-American. If you said that he’d correct you. He was an American first and one of Italian decent last.
More immigrants like that would be a net positive. I’d rather have more people like that here even if they come from Bangladesh or whatever. Honestly most immigrants I’ve met work harder than our citizens do. Better than these native born fkin junkie leeches on society filling our city streets now.
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Originally Posted By Zelensky⏩
How is he wrong exactly?The US is pretty new, and nearly everyone living in it has ethnic roots from elsewhere in the world. If you're defining Americans by ancestral purity you are retarded my bro.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
Oh lawd lmao.I don’t buy this argument. America has always been a nation of immigrants. In Europe I could see this point of view, ironically they have the most liberal immigration policies of all, but the American experiment is not rooted in millennia old homogenous tradition. Anyone who claims so is coping hard.
Plus the key is merit based. There should be rigorous screening of applicants before they come over. They should be held to a high standard and made to embrace American values instead of just being let in. Vivek clearly fits that criteria.
My grandfather came here from Sicily in the 1950s and not only did he consistently vote Republican, he served in the army, opened businesses, created jobs and was the proudest motherfukin American I’ve ever met srs. He refused to be called an Italian-American. If you said that he’d correct you. He was an American first and one of Italian decent.
More immigrants like that would be a net positive. I’d rather have more people like that here even if they come from Bangladesh or whatever. Better than these native born fkin junkie leeches on society filling our city streets now.
Plus the key is merit based. There should be rigorous screening of applicants before they come over. They should be held to a high standard and made to embrace American values instead of just being let in. Vivek clearly fits that criteria.
My grandfather came here from Sicily in the 1950s and not only did he consistently vote Republican, he served in the army, opened businesses, created jobs and was the proudest motherfukin American I’ve ever met srs. He refused to be called an Italian-American. If you said that he’d correct you. He was an American first and one of Italian decent.
More immigrants like that would be a net positive. I’d rather have more people like that here even if they come from Bangladesh or whatever. Better than these native born fkin junkie leeches on society filling our city streets now.
Let me guess those Bengalis are natural conservatives who will eventually come around and vote for Blumpf right?
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Originally Posted By John
A lot of them are. They come over with the goal of self improvement and upward mobility. They want to preserve family values, work hard and be left alone. Most in this position actually appreciate what America has given them. What’s more conservative than that?Oh lawd lmao.
Let me guess those Bengalis are natural conservatives who will eventually come around and vote for Blumpf right?
Let me guess those Bengalis are natural conservatives who will eventually come around and vote for Blumpf right?
It’s the illegals and university indoctrinated kids who want free handouts.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
Lol, no they are not. They come here and vote for the left in droves. Something more conservative than that is, well, just about anything.A lot of them are. They come over with the goal of self improvement and upward mobility. They want to preserve family values, work hard and be left alone. What’s more conservative than that?
It’s the illegals and university indoctrinated kids who want free handouts.
It’s the illegals and university indoctrinated kids who want free handouts.
Indians and South Asians vote for the left 80-20. They are reliably liberal.
If you want to increase legal immigration, the vast majority of those legal immigrants are going to come from the third world and Asia, and they are gonna vote for Democrats.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
I think there's a big difference between immigrant motivation this century versus 100 years ago. America was growing back then, today you have citizens being displaced in the workforce. And their voice in politics diminished.I don’t buy this argument. America has always been a nation of immigrants. In Europe I could see this point of view, ironically they have the most liberal immigration policies of all, but the American experiment is not rooted in millennia old homogenous tradition. Anyone who claims so is coping hard.
Plus the key is merit based. There should be rigorous screening of applicants before they come over. They should be held to a high standard and made to embrace American values instead of just being let in. Vivek clearly fits that criteria.
My grandfather came here from Sicily in the 1950s and not only did he consistently vote Republican, he served in the army, opened businesses, created jobs and was the proudest motherfukin American I’ve ever met srs. He refused to be called an Italian-American. If you said that he’d correct you. He was an American first and one of Italian decent last.
More immigrants like that would be a net positive. I’d rather have more people like that here even if they come from Bangladesh or whatever. Honestly most immigrants I’ve met work harder than our citizens do. Better than these native born fkin junkie leeches on society filling our city streets now.
Plus the key is merit based. There should be rigorous screening of applicants before they come over. They should be held to a high standard and made to embrace American values instead of just being let in. Vivek clearly fits that criteria.
My grandfather came here from Sicily in the 1950s and not only did he consistently vote Republican, he served in the army, opened businesses, created jobs and was the proudest motherfukin American I’ve ever met srs. He refused to be called an Italian-American. If you said that he’d correct you. He was an American first and one of Italian decent last.
More immigrants like that would be a net positive. I’d rather have more people like that here even if they come from Bangladesh or whatever. Honestly most immigrants I’ve met work harder than our citizens do. Better than these native born fkin junkie leeches on society filling our city streets now.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Not to mention, assimilation was heavily, heavily encouraged back then. And it was just easier for western European immigrants to assimilate to the culture, let's be honest. It is laughable to even try to compare your Italian grandfather immigrant from the 1950's to Indian, Bengali and other non-Western immigrants today.I think there's a big difference between immigrant motivation this century versus 100 years ago. America was growing back then, today you have citizens being displaced in the workforce. And their voice in politics diminished.
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It's not just about working hard and refusing handouts.A lot of them are. They come over with the goal of self improvement and upward mobility. They want to preserve family values, work hard and be left alone. Most in this position actually appreciate what America has given them. What’s more conservative than that?
It’s the illegals and university indoctrinated kids who want free handouts.
It’s the illegals and university indoctrinated kids who want free handouts.
Many of these people do not respect the right to free speech, the right to own a gun or the right to privacy.
These people are simply looking for an improvement on their lives and if you come from a place that doesn't even have toilet paper then America looks good to you whether you get speech, gun and privacy rights or not. If these rights are taken away, immigrants won't care because they never had them anyway but Americans will because they can't see life without them. Legal immigration also allows them to push and increase domestic abortion.
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The birth rate is below replacement and the powers want capital growth above anything else.
No major candidate of any party will succeed in halting immigration, whether that's Trump, DeSantis, or whoever.
No major candidate of any party will succeed in halting immigration, whether that's Trump, DeSantis, or whoever.
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Originally Posted By John
Eh, assimilation was rough back then too. But people actually assimilated, which is the difference. Indian immigrants who came here 100 years ago would have done the same. But today people come to the US to leech off for personal gain.Not to mention, assimilation was heavily, heavily encouraged back then. And it was just easier for western European immigrants to assimilate to the culture, let's be honest. It is laughable to even try to compare your Italian grandfather immigrant from the 1950's to Indian, Bengali and other non-Western immigrants today.
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
Birth rate is still higher than death rate in the USThe birth rate is below replacement and the powers want growth. No major candidate will succeed in halting immigration
We don't need to become India or China, we have enough people already. Only people who want endless growth are global corps
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