It would bother me a bit, yes. It's because I would have to consciously write something different. Plus, that's a simple example. If it's more complex then it would be much harder for me to translate it to casual text.

STORY: I had a group project in an accounting course at university with me and 3 other people (split 50/50 male and female). We were all in the computer lab to start working on it. We opened up a Word document and they started what was probably the first sentence or two. I remember getting on them for usingbecause ofwhen I believe they should have useddue to. They weren't pleased with my comment and it led to some strife. I remember the more attractive female never really wanted to talk to me much after that. The other guy was a gay guy and it didn't bother him in the long run, but it did during that group session. I regret doing that because it isn't an important thing to dwell on since it was a rough draft and I could have changed it later without anyone noticing.

I'm thinking I'll just speak to her next time I see her in the gym? I don't like double texting out of the gate.

I decided to reach out to a woman I hadn't talked to in ages. I think I'm going to the gym twice today, hah. See? If they get to know me they may actually like me...

Finished a gym sesh and a hangout sesh with the person in the post above. We used to do stuff in the past, but probably not going to happen now. Was fun to hangout with someone. Definitely looking to date someone else. Must keep trying.

HAAAAAAAAAALP. I think I know what to say, but not going to reply immediately. I think I should be courteous and understanding and hope that her daughter is feeling better.

Send her the pic of the cat

Then go NC

Would be funny, but I like this woman. I know Luc1fer said to wait before sending a text. Since I didn't see any other suggestions, I waited two hours before texting her something I thought is appropriate. My reply is fairly short, addresses her question, and shares something similar (i.e., related to family).

Any thoughts on asking a woman to have a Zoom call?

Yesterday I met a woman online and we've messaged back and forth several times. The questions have come mostly from me, but I'm thinking a Zoom call is a way for us to see each other and not have to commit to an in-person meeting. It's better than a phone call because she can see me and I can use my better quality microphone. It's also better than FaceTime because I don't have to hold my phone.

I keep asking her questions and some of her replies are a bit longer and she uses emojis which seems to be a good sign. Her other replies are a bit shorter. Hard to gauge her interest. Maybe she's just nice. Regardless, I feel like it would be weird to continually ask her questions on an app.

lol

I'm not sure whether I should (1) keep talking within the app, (2) not reply for a few days, (3) ask for a Zoom call, or (4) ask if she wants to have coffee.

I'm a bit lost because I haven't met her in person; I've just communicated with her via an app. She's 9 years younger than I am (33 vs. 24). I guess I don't have anything to lose and feel like the conversation has gotten to the stage where it's on me to initiate something.

It's a reality check. I need to go out and do more things because I feel like a hermit talking to someone who's outgoing. However, I'm sure her and I would get along very well.

Edit: Her last message says she hasn't roller skated in a while, but is looking to get back into it. Perhaps I can suggest we skate at a nearby rink?

Try to set up skating/drinks or something in the near term to see how things go in person (unless she doesn't agree to meet up, in which case move on). Suggesting Zoom calls, just like finding and messaging women on LinkedIn, comes off very businesslike and odd. It is doubly weird to try to get a 24-year-old girl to have a Zoom meeting with you instead of just trying to hang out. It seems like that would draw negative attention to your age difference (which does not need to be an issue unless made into one).

Thank you for the feedback. I need to behave confidently with women otherwise they won't talk with me as I'll look like a beta male. I was so pessimistic because I feel a bit inadequate since this woman is way out of my league. I think it would subside if we met IRL and got along well. Here's the most recent part of the convo.

I saw her at the gym today as I was entering, and as she was leaving with a friend. We exchanged greetings, and she said, "It's nice to see you." Although she hasn't been very responsive in her texts, I'm being patient and not trying to rush things, as I don't want to potentially scare her away.She left me on [color=red]read[color]

Pretty expected unfortunately. You were sending paragraphs and she barely responded.

Bro, you need to get on tren ace (srs). I know someone who's about as autistic as you, and it's sad as **** for me to see him waste his potential because he's very good-looking. Whatever bull**** you try will work way better if you're shredded and look awesome, because you have no chance with whatever the **** this gay **** is.

It's good to hear from you again, sir. I felt like I was playing a game I couldn't win, but it was worth a shot. Will likely keep updating this thread until I get a girlfriend.I disagree on the tren. I would lose some of what may make me stand out in apositive way. I took this screenshot today. I am getting a haircut soon, but the point is the side effects of tren are so severe and could ruin what I have. I am bulking and eating very clean. I've only been at the gym for 4 months now. I will keep trying. Maybe one day we can both laugh and reflect on how far I've progressed. Perhaps you can give me more time before you say I need to hop on gear?

At least your hair looks clean, son. You wash your hair today?

Yeah, that's a fair feeling. Will keep rooting for you until you make it.

I washed my hair last Wednesday (5 days ago), the same day you asked me to wash it. However, I showereda few hours ago after I got back from the gym. I have to shower immediately after. Have to try my best to avoid any acne/pimples.

Thank you, legbroke. Your support means a lot to me! I may sound like a broken record, but I often reflect on messages like yours. They help me learn and motivate me to keep pushing myself.

Not even gonna lie, OP will probably get laid before I do.

He is making straight up Martian-landed-on-Earth, level 0 mistakes with people, but he is willing to take his lumps at turbo speed. If misc keeps coaching him, he is going to beat himself into shape within a couple months. I may not even speak to a woman for the next couple months.

Why, son? Why do you go so long between washing your hair? Every other day is more than fine. 2 days, maybe. Oils build up, your hair absorbs it, and attract dust and dirt.

You then lay on your pillow, it becomes greasy, dirty, and when you roll your face on it, it causes acne because you're rubbing your face in dirt and bacteria.

You don't need to literally ignore women, but you need to putless effortinto these women once you initiate contact.

Some men fake it, some get busy with their goals (latter is better obviously).

I don't think you understand this irony, but it subconsciously signals higher value.

Don't say that.

I'm sure you will at least speak with Priyanka to deliver the needful schematics this week.

Unless you look like Bradley or nonsense916 you're going to have to grind it out. It's basically a numbers game, which is fine, because the only thing that matters is you're getting yourself out there rather than rotting away in your mom's basement like some miscers. Just keep approaching every attractive woman you come across. Make casual conversation (lighthearted bs stuff sans all the long winded details you tend to include right off the bat) and you're sure to score a few first dates. You're tall, not fat and not ugly so there's hope.

[QUOTE=FA******* post_id=1687555583]Not even gonna lie, OP will probably get laid before I do.

He is making straight up Martian-landed-on-Earth, level 0 mistakes with people, but he is willing to take his lumps at turbo speed. If misc keeps coaching him, he is going to beat himself into shape within a couple months. I may not even speak to a woman for the next couple months.[/QUOTE]I think some of my interactions have gone well. Take a look at post #155. Yes, I realize I've made mistakes. It's hard for me to not write a lot to a woman because I have a lot to tell them. How can you go months without speaking to a woman? That sounds like a lack of trying, which was me not too long ago.
[QUOTE=Tuksonrider post_id=1687555633]Why, son? Why do you go so long between washing your hair? Every other day is more than fine. 2 days, maybe. Oils build up, your hair absorbs it, and attract dust and dirt.

You then lay on your pillow, it becomes greasy, dirty, and when you roll your face on it, it causes acne because you're rubbing your face in dirt and bacteria.[/QUOTE]I didn't think about, really. I was intentionally not washing my hair because I liked how easy it was to comb my hair as it's fairly long. I will get it cut this week. Should I start styling my hair for the gym? As in putting product in it/wetting it and combing it? This is when I have a fade, of course. I will wash my hair every couple of days after the haircut (srs).

[QUOTE=Luc1fer post_id=1687555703]You don't need to literally ignore women, but you need to put[i]less effort[/i]into these women once you initiate contact.

Some men fake it, some get busy with their goals (latter is better obviously).

I don't think you understand this irony, but it subconsciously signals higher value.

[img]https://imgur.com/Uv3cj.png[img][/QUOTE]I got you. I am doing that with the woman from post #155. I haven't done a single thing wrong in our interactions so far (imo). I've made finding a girl a goal and it's caused me to lose focus of actual things I should be doing recently (aside from my diet and exercise, which I never slack on).

Kindly share the needful.Yeah, I'm not Chad. I also have a medium frame, not a large frame. I think a gym transformation will certainly help. I have so much more weight to gain before I start cutting, but the goal is to eventually get lean. Thanks for the compliments. It's brutally difficult to think of myself as a person who deserves any of the women I've pursued. Something like a fantasy, but you're right - it is a numbers game. Yes, I am definitely not rotting. I have been on the financial up-and-up for a few years. I am notrich, but I could ensure my future wife doesn't have to work if she didn't want to. Can't even get to the appropriate point yet with any of them to convey that.

When I approach, I may comment on something I'm seeing (such as a shirt, a tattoo, or an exercise) or throw out a non-garbage pickup line.

Bro you want advice? You aren't listening to the women. They will post something about themselves and then you will be like cool and then next you'll go off on a tangent about you and stress the importance and favor the conversation on yourself. Stop doing that.

Our join dates are one month apart.

I see what you're saying. I think you're referring to the previous conversation from IG. I feel a bit ashamed because she's so nice. I genuinely didn't know what to say so I tried my best. I will try to keep it casual and less overwhelming when initiating a conversation with someone I don't know.

You don't need to use AAS to get girls, but being in shape makes it way easier. Throughout most of my life I was 150-180 lbs at 6'5", and usually the leaner I was the more girls I got. The real key is to be LEAN because it makes the face looks so much better. And you can get away with so much more **** and **** her on the first day if the girl is very attracted to you. I've met girls in the most random places in broad daylight just walking around New York, and end up ****ing within a couple hours sometimes (even when I barely had any money living in some **** place with roommates somewhere). But I'm also taller than 99% of people and look way better than most, and if I started AAS and GH the first day in the gym I'd have been with 500+ girls now instead of about 100.Get lean now! When I was skinny as **** I had lots of female attention because I had a lean face that girls usually loved. Now that I'm in the process of getting shredded while being way heavier, it's gonna be so sick.

But also keep in mind that I would get rejected a lot, so for you it's gonna be so much harder. This is why you should use tren.