08-04-2023, 06:32 PM
-
#31
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
-
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
- Join Date: May 2019
- Posts: 27,697
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
This is an interesting perspective. I rarely receive feedback on my performance other than it’s stellar. The only negative feedback I’ve received in the last 10 years is that with traffic it’s tough for me to get in the office by 9am and I arrive at 9:15am.No. For a number of good reasons but primarily:
1) diminishing marginal returns to me. Going above 80% produces no tangible reward for me
2) it is both easier, and appears more productive, to deliver a large number of products at 80% compared to fewer projects at 100%
3) senior management/clients prefer to be able to provide “input” - psychologically they feel they’ve had a value-add - if you leave room for their improvements or even just to cater to their preferences
4) at my level of seniority there are very few individuals capable of distinguishing between 80 pc and 100 pc and I know them by name.
1) diminishing marginal returns to me. Going above 80% produces no tangible reward for me
2) it is both easier, and appears more productive, to deliver a large number of products at 80% compared to fewer projects at 100%
3) senior management/clients prefer to be able to provide “input” - psychologically they feel they’ve had a value-add - if you leave room for their improvements or even just to cater to their preferences
4) at my level of seniority there are very few individuals capable of distinguishing between 80 pc and 100 pc and I know them by name.
That’s amazing that you have that level of seniority.
08-04-2023, 06:53 PM
-
#32
- thesloshedman
- Registered Tradie
-
- thesloshedman
- Registered Tradie
- Join Date: Dec 2011
- Location: Canada
- Posts: 2,250
- Rep Power: 26780
-
-
I’ve always been a “perfectionist” at work, heavy duty mechanic, every repair needs to be done correctly, or it risks becoming a repeat issue, I’ve built a career off of the fact that my repairs are correct and don’t become repeat issues. Building an engine demands perfection, if you want it to last.
Doing the best job you can do just shows pride in your work
Doing the best job you can do just shows pride in your work
*Onterrible crew*
*tradies get the ladies crew*
*high test crew*
*foot fetish crew*
*cell tech crew*
*No Social Media Crew*
Lurked in 2011,12,13 and can’t believe what happened to the misc
Rip Zyzz
08-05-2023, 12:05 AM
-
#33
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
-
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
- Join Date: May 2019
- Posts: 27,697
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By thesloshedman⏩
I guess when it becomes a repeat issue then you want to do it right the first time.I’ve always been a “perfectionist” at work, heavy duty mechanic, every repair needs to be done correctly, or it risks becoming a repeat issue, I’ve built a career off of the fact that my repairs are correct and don’t become repeat issues. Building an engine demands perfection, if you want it to last.
Doing the best job you can do just shows pride in your work
Doing the best job you can do just shows pride in your work
As long as it doesn't make you sick and create problems in your personal life.
08-05-2023, 03:06 AM
-
#34
- thesloshedman
- Registered Tradie
-
- thesloshedman
- Registered Tradie
- Join Date: Dec 2011
- Location: Canada
- Posts: 2,250
- Rep Power: 26780
-
-
Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
Exactly. Perfectionist at work, work a lot but I know how to leave work at work. When I’m off the clock work is the furthest thing from my mindI guess when it becomes a repeat issue then you want to do it right the first time.
As long as it doesn't make you sick and create problems in your personal life.
As long as it doesn't make you sick and create problems in your personal life.
*Onterrible crew*
*tradies get the ladies crew*
*high test crew*
*foot fetish crew*
*cell tech crew*
*No Social Media Crew*
Lurked in 2011,12,13 and can’t believe what happened to the misc
Rip Zyzz
08-05-2023, 03:17 AM
-
#35
- MusicProducer
- (‿ˠ‿)
-
- MusicProducer
- (‿ˠ‿)
- Join Date: Jan 2012
- Posts: 12,481
- Rep Power: 8132
-
-
brb stopped being a perfectionist when I was gonna get fired for not completing things on time. Started half-assing everything to get projects out the door and I'm getting pats on the back and raises in salary.
Feels bad man. But I'm not broke at least. (( weird feels man )) Time to switch careers and yolo.
Feels bad man. But I'm not broke at least. (( weird feels man )) Time to switch careers and yolo.
Hoistin' heavy-ass s**t since 2006.
Hoist to get'em moist crew.
Raw hoister crew.
08-05-2023, 03:44 AM
-
#36
- roosky11
- Registered User
-
- roosky11
- Registered User
- Join Date: Mar 2008
- Age: 34
- Posts: 9,992
- Rep Power: 32269
-
-
Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
This. Overthinking/analyzing. Would rather be a simplistic oaf/borderline retarded. Life is more simpler. Having a high IQ and smarts is cool because you understand the world around you but when it comes to dealing with the vast majority of people it blows because everyone is low IQ and can't understand and comprehend what you're telling them. There's not too much difference between Cavemen/Neanderthals and the current population of people. With AI doing all the work now for everyone it's only going to get worse. I'd say Misc has less then 10-20 people who could actually hold an intelligent conversation or talk with someone with an above 150-160 IQ.I'm similar. I overthink and try to get details correct; meanwhile people who are sloppy and play politics get levels ahead.
But I don't regret it, I hate playing politics and don't want to sell my integrity. But I would like to think less.
But I don't regret it, I hate playing politics and don't want to sell my integrity. But I would like to think less.
Official MISC Coffee Drinkers V2 thread:
http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=149174613
~California Crew~
-Misc Night Crew-
GGG Crew
08-05-2023, 03:46 AM
-
#37
- longfellowdeeds
- Registered User
-
- longfellowdeeds
- Registered User
- Join Date: Mar 2012
- Age: 33
- Posts: 2,697
- Rep Power: 3705
-
-
no because it doesn't benefit me that much to kill myself over smaller details
it won't get me a raise
it will add stress to my life
I try to be as carefree and thorough as possible, sometimes things are out of my control
it won't get me a raise
it will add stress to my life
I try to be as carefree and thorough as possible, sometimes things are out of my control
L.A. LAKERS
08-05-2023, 03:46 AM
-
#38
- AncientYouth
- Registered User
-
- AncientYouth
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jul 2013
- Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Age: 62
- Posts: 22,213
- Rep Power: 65479
-
-
LOL at all the comments, i do the bare minimum in a quarter of the time allocated , have to do the odd intense bit of work but only now and then.
I am considered high performing and indispensible ... Work SMART not hard
experience, charisma and ability to think on your feet is key
I am considered high performing and indispensible ... Work SMART not hard
experience, charisma and ability to think on your feet is key
08-05-2023, 03:50 AM
-
#39
- roosky11
- Registered User
-
- roosky11
- Registered User
- Join Date: Mar 2008
- Age: 34
- Posts: 9,992
- Rep Power: 32269
-
-
Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
In Asia where I worked if you got Employee of the Month you got additional bonus pay. Could only get it 2 times because well it would hurt other people's feelings or wasn't fair (working with Westerners). Apparently a few people complained it was the same people getting it over and over. Not anyone's fault they kept doing a chitty job.Lmao that's a hard lesson I learned at my last job.
It's amazing the boomers and some Gen Xs whine about nobody having strong work ethic anymore but they never want to reward hard workers with things like extra pay. Instead you get Employee of the Month and you get a shirt with the company logo
It's amazing the boomers and some Gen Xs whine about nobody having strong work ethic anymore but they never want to reward hard workers with things like extra pay. Instead you get Employee of the Month and you get a shirt with the company logo
Official MISC Coffee Drinkers V2 thread:
http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=149174613
~California Crew~
-Misc Night Crew-
GGG Crew
08-05-2023, 03:57 AM
-
#40
- roosky11
- Registered User
-
- roosky11
- Registered User
- Join Date: Mar 2008
- Age: 34
- Posts: 9,992
- Rep Power: 32269
-
-
Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
Yet all of the experienced and ability abled people in the workforce seem to be getting canned in lieu for people who are lazy and just don't give a fuk and then businesses continue to complain about dropping profit margins. Wonder why. The idiots are going to win this war because it's the "smart" business decision and the smart/experienced people want to get paid for their value which is too "expensive" for them.LOL at all the comments, i do the bare minimum in a quarter of the time allocated , have to do the odd intense bit of work but only now and then.
I am considered high performing and indispensible ... Work SMART not hard
experience, charisma and ability to think on your feet is key
I am considered high performing and indispensible ... Work SMART not hard
experience, charisma and ability to think on your feet is key
Official MISC Coffee Drinkers V2 thread:
http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=149174613
~California Crew~
-Misc Night Crew-
GGG Crew
08-05-2023, 04:03 AM
-
#41
- AncientYouth
- Registered User
-
- AncientYouth
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jul 2013
- Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Age: 62
- Posts: 22,213
- Rep Power: 65479
-
-
Originally Posted By roosky11⏩
i am not in that kind of environment, they would be fkd if i left and took my knowledge with me .............and they know itYet all of the experienced and ability abled people in the workforce seem to be getting canned in lieu for people who are lazy and just don't give a fuk and then businesses continue to complain about dropping profit margins. Wonder why. The idiots are going to win this war because it's the "smart" business decision and the smart/experienced people want to get paid for their value which is too "expensive" for them.
08-05-2023, 04:37 AM
-
#42
- roosky11
- Registered User
-
- roosky11
- Registered User
- Join Date: Mar 2008
- Age: 34
- Posts: 9,992
- Rep Power: 32269
-
-
Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
Is that truth or just what you/people tell themselves to make them feel irreplaceable and they hold value? Everyone to some extent is replaceable.i am not in that kind of environment, they would be fkd if i left and took my knowledge with me .............and they know it
Official MISC Coffee Drinkers V2 thread:
http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=149174613
~California Crew~
-Misc Night Crew-
GGG Crew
08-05-2023, 04:43 AM
-
#43
- roosky11
- Registered User
-
- roosky11
- Registered User
- Join Date: Mar 2008
- Age: 34
- Posts: 9,992
- Rep Power: 32269
-
-
Originally Posted By thesloshedman⏩
But does it provide fast and efficient profit? That's the name of the game. Creating profit as fast as possible with the acceptable decline in quality. If people had to choose between a mechanic shop who could get their car back to them in 2 weeks but has lower quality versus a shop that would take a month at a higher quality, people would choose the 2 week shop and "accept" complaining about problems resulting from the lower quality and just keep dumping more $$ into fixing the problems from the original one. Like in healthcare. Do you treat all the problems at once or do you just deal with it as they happen which ends up being very $$ in the long run. When I go into the shop I just tell them to check and fix all the issues. I don't want to piece meal needing to take my car in every 2-3 months because of stuff that could have been fixed earlier. I can accept the extended lack of having a car if it means long term prevention.I’ve always been a “perfectionist” at work, heavy duty mechanic, every repair needs to be done correctly, or it risks becoming a repeat issue, I’ve built a career off of the fact that my repairs are correct and don’t become repeat issues. Building an engine demands perfection, if you want it to last.
Doing the best job you can do just shows pride in your work
Doing the best job you can do just shows pride in your work
Official MISC Coffee Drinkers V2 thread:
http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=149174613
~California Crew~
-Misc Night Crew-
GGG Crew
08-05-2023, 06:45 AM
-
#44
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
-
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
- Join Date: May 2019
- Posts: 27,697
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By longfellowdeeds⏩
Could it result in an escalation to your manager and potential humiliation? That’s my biggest fear.no because it doesn't benefit me that much to kill myself over smaller details
it won't get me a raise
it will add stress to my life
I try to be as carefree and thorough as possible, sometimes things are out of my control
it won't get me a raise
it will add stress to my life
I try to be as carefree and thorough as possible, sometimes things are out of my control
Shame can be devastating.
08-05-2023, 06:46 AM
-
#45
- AncientYouth
- Registered User
-
- AncientYouth
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jul 2013
- Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Age: 62
- Posts: 22,213
- Rep Power: 65479
-
-
Originally Posted By roosky11⏩
i constantly get asked about areas which i have not been involved in for years because i have the knowledge that others do not haveIs that truth or just what you/people tell themselves to make them feel irreplaceable and they hold value? Everyone to some extent is replaceable.
I am told on regular basis by people all across the the organisation that i am the 'Go To' person in many areas of the business
In my appraisals ..about which i could no fkcs this is always cited as a organsational strength
its not me saying....its what people tell me
of course everyone leaves in the end and th work goes on, but much is also lost when you have so much knowledge and experience
no one checks me, watches over me and i have a superb reputation in my organisation at all levels.................once you get to that position work is easy street
08-05-2023, 06:51 AM
-
#46
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
-
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
- Join Date: May 2019
- Posts: 27,697
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By roosky11⏩
Yes. Sometimes it drives me crazy as at times I’m not even asking people to write code, I ask them to create a certain number of accounts and privileges and to click a button and they don’t get it.This. Overthinking/analyzing. Would rather be a simplistic oaf/borderline retarded. Life is more simpler. Having a high IQ and smarts is cool because you understand the world around you but when it comes to dealing with the vast majority of people it blows because everyone is low IQ and can't understand and comprehend what you're telling them. There's not too much difference between Cavemen/Neanderthals and the current population of people. With AI doing all the work now for everyone it's only going to get worse. I'd say Misc has less then 10-20 people who could actually hold an intelligent conversation or talk with someone with an above 150-160 IQ.
Now I always send them a screenshot of the button and that helps, but man it’s frustrating to go to such lengths for simple requests.
I don’t know what the problem is. It’s easy for me to be a Boomer and blame Millennials and Gen Z for not following easy instructions.
It’s still baffling to me.
It could be a language barrier as I work with mostly multinationals from one country.
08-05-2023, 08:21 AM
-
#47
08-05-2023, 10:16 AM
-
#48
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
-
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
- Join Date: May 2019
- Posts: 27,697
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Cute ^^^^^^ I love kittens
.
.
08-05-2023, 10:22 AM
-
#49
- Jaydawg08
- Registered User
-
- Jaydawg08
- Registered User
- Join Date: Apr 2014
- Age: 37
- Posts: 23,502
- Rep Power: 133988
-
-
I would say yes, but it has subsided a lil recently.. when I was still training it was the nervousness of someone always listening to your decisions and critiquing them no matter how small. "I would have turned that aircraft another 5 degrees".. "you gave that weather call too late now that plane is gonna wanna move you should have said it this way".
I still make mistakes, like losing a guy on frequency cause I switched him a lil late or maybe I thought my 15 degree turn was enough and it's a lot tighter.. but generally I just don't like when people are behind me to critique my choices but I've learned now to not care as much.
I still make mistakes, like losing a guy on frequency cause I switched him a lil late or maybe I thought my 15 degree turn was enough and it's a lot tighter.. but generally I just don't like when people are behind me to critique my choices but I've learned now to not care as much.
08-05-2023, 10:35 AM
-
#50
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
-
- DustinTheHuss
- Banned
- Join Date: May 2019
- Posts: 27,697
- Rep Power: 0
-
-
Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
You're an air traffic controller? Yikes! That is a very stressful job. I used to live near a military base and we had a lot of ATC neighbors.I would say yes, but it has subsided a lil recently.. when I was still training it was the nervousness of someone always listening to your decisions and critiquing them no matter how small. "I would have turned that aircraft another 5 degrees".. "you gave that weather call too late now that plane is gonna wanna move you should have said it this way".
I still make mistakes, like losing a guy on frequency cause I switched him a lil late or maybe I thought my 15 degree turn was enough and it's a lot tighter.. but generally I just don't like when people are behind me to critique my choices but I've learned now to not care as much.
I still make mistakes, like losing a guy on frequency cause I switched him a lil late or maybe I thought my 15 degree turn was enough and it's a lot tighter.. but generally I just don't like when people are behind me to critique my choices but I've learned now to not care as much.
That is tough when people critique you. I feel you there. Some people can get away with it while others have a breakdown.
My grandmother used to have breakdowns when she was criticized. She graduated top of her class at Berkeley but she was such a perfectionist that if someone criticized her she would fall into a terrible bout of depression and anxiety for weeks. That happened once when she was volunteering at a voting booth and they criticized her counting of the ballots.
08-05-2023, 11:30 AM
-
#51
08-05-2023, 11:39 AM
-
#52
- Ripper908
- Registered User
-
- Ripper908
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jul 2010
- Location: Ontario, Canada
- Age: 39
- Posts: 6,603
- Rep Power: 55969
-
-
Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
well in all fairnessDamn that’s a lot of pressure.
I was also thinking that air traffic controllers, doctors and nurses have very stressful jobs as if they make a mistake someone could die.
I was also thinking that air traffic controllers, doctors and nurses have very stressful jobs as if they make a mistake someone could die.
I think most of those specs are over engineered. If I make a part here in Canada during the winter that is being shipped to texas. It will most likely measure slightly bigger down there
And everything is inspected and measured by me and most likely measured again before it's put into use
Not like I make a part and they just throw it onto a machine and hope I knew what I was doing lol
And any parts I make for safety equipment has a whole different testing process
Stats: 6 foot, 240 pounds
Cane Corso Crew
08-05-2023, 11:41 AM
-
#53
- MikeLowrrrey
- Join Date: Jul 2018
- Age: 56
- Posts: 35,162
- Subscribers: 2
- Rep Power: 120668
-
-
Uncle Sam did a damn great job getting women into the workforce. Perfect sheep that won't fight the system
08-05-2023, 11:47 AM
-
#54
- AncientYouth
- Registered User
-
- AncientYouth
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jul 2013
- Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Age: 62
- Posts: 22,213
- Rep Power: 65479
-
-
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
its world wideUncle Sam did a damn great job getting women into the workforce. Perfect sheep that won't fight the system
Bookmarks
-
- Digg
-
- del.icio.us
-

- StumbleUpon
-
-
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
