Thread: We Need Our Tribes Back
08-07-2023, 07:12 AM
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We Need Our Tribes Back
My thoughts have already been trending this directions for many months. Nuclear families rooted in a single romantic relationship just are not stable enough or resilient enough.
I think that many people inherently know this, though they may not be able to define it or put it into words. I suspect it has some bearing on people not wanting to leave academia or the military or maybe even the misc.
I think that many people inherently know this, though they may not be able to define it or put it into words. I suspect it has some bearing on people not wanting to leave academia or the military or maybe even the misc.
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08-07-2023, 07:16 AM
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Pls tell me you didn't just post a 14min. video on the misc? I mean, all the conspiracy stuff aside...You've really lost it this time
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08-07-2023, 07:18 AM
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Cliffs?
08-07-2023, 07:36 AM
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Cliffs:
Idealist sloot says we should ditch the idea of trading sex for security
Suggests we return to tribe mentality
Makes the original human tribalism out to be sunshines and rainbows and completely looks past the harsh realities
This women doesn't realize we're in a completely different world than we were 1000 years ago.
There were harsh realities of tribes, and there are many reasons why we stepped away from them.
Tribes were 50-100 people. We're a nation of 340+ million, all different in culture and beliefs.
If we revert to a tribe mentality, we would have to go back to 50-100 people tribes with a single leader that bangs all the women in exchange for their security.
This would lead to mini-wars all over the place.
At the end of the day, it's the same fooking thing: Women trade sex for security. Men, with the exception of the leader and his immediate underlings, trade freedom and become subservient for security.
We still live in somewhat of a tribe mentality, just adapted to a much larger scale.
Modern men will not stand for the archaic/original version of tribalism.
To the other 100+ IQ miscers, take note, this is what happens when everyone is given a voice.
Idealist sloot says we should ditch the idea of trading sex for security
Suggests we return to tribe mentality
Makes the original human tribalism out to be sunshines and rainbows and completely looks past the harsh realities
This women doesn't realize we're in a completely different world than we were 1000 years ago.
There were harsh realities of tribes, and there are many reasons why we stepped away from them.
Tribes were 50-100 people. We're a nation of 340+ million, all different in culture and beliefs.
If we revert to a tribe mentality, we would have to go back to 50-100 people tribes with a single leader that bangs all the women in exchange for their security.
This would lead to mini-wars all over the place.
At the end of the day, it's the same fooking thing: Women trade sex for security. Men, with the exception of the leader and his immediate underlings, trade freedom and become subservient for security.
We still live in somewhat of a tribe mentality, just adapted to a much larger scale.
Modern men will not stand for the archaic/original version of tribalism.
To the other 100+ IQ miscers, take note, this is what happens when everyone is given a voice.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
That's not even true, AAs used to have strong patriarchal families. It's much bigger than an ethnic groupHonestly what we need is segregation from AAs.
It’s just the truth.
It’s just the truth.
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Eastern Orthodox reflects the culture of the soviet populations. Russian novels always use a man who fights to act morally all by himself while drowned in corruption around him.
Checks and balances are required, I think.
Checks and balances are required, I think.
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Imagine posting a thread with no substance, a 14 minute video with no cliffs, and expecting people to not neg you.
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
Yeah we live in a country with almost 400 million people, but you don’t interact with anything close to that much, even with the internet. Cities and other large population centers have a terrible effect on a persons well-being. Sure there may be some positives, but overall it isn’t healthy or sustainable. This is evidenced by what unfolds in cities, by the Universe 25 experiment, and how civilizations always ultimately unravel/fall apart in the same manner on pretty much the same trajectory. Meanwhile people like the Amish and other small groups of people live in more sustainable, healthy ways for the most part. Sure there are issues in small towns, but at the same time a lot of that is due to the negative effects of the larger structure trickling down to them. Humans only have the capacity to care for about 300 or so people to varying degrees…anything above that and the dehumanization effect starts to creep in and people become indifferent or outright hostile to everyone else.Cliffs:
Idealist sloot says we should ditch the idea of trading sex for security
Suggests we return to tribe mentality
Makes the original human tribalism out to be sunshines and rainbows and completely looks past the harsh realities
This women doesn't realize we're in a completely different world than we were 1000 years ago.
There were harsh realities of tribes, and there are many reasons why we stepped away from them.
Tribes were 50-100 people. We're a nation of 340+ million, all different in culture and beliefs.
If we revert to a tribe mentality, we would have to go back to 50-100 people tribes with a single leader that bangs all the women in exchange for their security.
This would lead to mini-wars all over the place.
At the end of the day, it's the same fooking thing: Women trade sex for security. Men, with the exception of the leader and his immediate underlings, trade freedom and become subservient for security.
We still live in somewhat of a tribe mentality, just adapted to a much larger scale.
Modern men will not stand for the archaic/original version of tribalism.
To the other 100+ IQ miscers, take note, this is what happens when everyone is given a voice.
Idealist sloot says we should ditch the idea of trading sex for security
Suggests we return to tribe mentality
Makes the original human tribalism out to be sunshines and rainbows and completely looks past the harsh realities
This women doesn't realize we're in a completely different world than we were 1000 years ago.
There were harsh realities of tribes, and there are many reasons why we stepped away from them.
Tribes were 50-100 people. We're a nation of 340+ million, all different in culture and beliefs.
If we revert to a tribe mentality, we would have to go back to 50-100 people tribes with a single leader that bangs all the women in exchange for their security.
This would lead to mini-wars all over the place.
At the end of the day, it's the same fooking thing: Women trade sex for security. Men, with the exception of the leader and his immediate underlings, trade freedom and become subservient for security.
We still live in somewhat of a tribe mentality, just adapted to a much larger scale.
Modern men will not stand for the archaic/original version of tribalism.
To the other 100+ IQ miscers, take note, this is what happens when everyone is given a voice.
Not speaking to the video because I haven’t seen it yet, but your suggestion that we’d have to go back to groups of 100 people doesn’t seem accurate. Again look at the Amish. Sure they have their own set of problems because every group will have problems, but there’s isn’t even in the same stratosphere as what the rest of Western Civilization is experiencing. And they are much closer to the tribal aspect of living than we are.
08-07-2023, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
Not bad cliffs.Cliffs:
Idealist sloot says we should ditch the idea of trading sex for security
Suggests we return to tribe mentality
Makes the original human tribalism out to be sunshines and rainbows and completely looks past the harsh realities
This women doesn't realize we're in a completely different world than we were 1000 years ago.
There were harsh realities of tribes, and there are many reasons why we stepped away from them.
Tribes were 50-100 people. We're a nation of 340+ million, all different in culture and beliefs.
If we revert to a tribe mentality, we would have to go back to 50-100 people tribes with a single leader that bangs all the women in exchange for their security.
This would lead to mini-wars all over the place.
At the end of the day, it's the same fooking thing: Women trade sex for security. Men, with the exception of the leader and his immediate underlings, trade freedom and become subservient for security.
We still live in somewhat of a tribe mentality, just adapted to a much larger scale.
Modern men will not stand for the archaic/original version of tribalism.
To the other 100+ IQ miscers, take note, this is what happens when everyone is given a voice.
Idealist sloot says we should ditch the idea of trading sex for security
Suggests we return to tribe mentality
Makes the original human tribalism out to be sunshines and rainbows and completely looks past the harsh realities
This women doesn't realize we're in a completely different world than we were 1000 years ago.
There were harsh realities of tribes, and there are many reasons why we stepped away from them.
Tribes were 50-100 people. We're a nation of 340+ million, all different in culture and beliefs.
If we revert to a tribe mentality, we would have to go back to 50-100 people tribes with a single leader that bangs all the women in exchange for their security.
This would lead to mini-wars all over the place.
At the end of the day, it's the same fooking thing: Women trade sex for security. Men, with the exception of the leader and his immediate underlings, trade freedom and become subservient for security.
We still live in somewhat of a tribe mentality, just adapted to a much larger scale.
Modern men will not stand for the archaic/original version of tribalism.
To the other 100+ IQ miscers, take note, this is what happens when everyone is given a voice.
I don't think you have to watch the full video to get the gist of the thing.
I don't agree that she made out tribalism to be all sunshine and rainbows, and if she said anything about a single guy smashing all the women I totally missed that.
There has been previous work showing that humans are best suited to smaller groups and that in large groups social cohesion breaks down. At some point it becomes every man [and woman] for themselves.
I would say that up until roughly the 1950s in the US we had some forms of tribalism so I'm not buying that it can't be done. People formed social support groups based on shared religions [churches and temples], common social institutions [fraternities, sororities], trades [unions], and races [ethnic neighborhoods].
Now most people in urban areas are atomized from the other people living around them.
Why do we have such a problem with gangs? Is it simply profit seeking via illegal business or maybe young people searching for some type of security? Especially young people who do not have a healthy family system for support?
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08-07-2023, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Vulcan mind meld. lol <3Yeah we live in a country with almost 400 million people, but you don’t interact with anything close to that much, even with the internet. Cities and other large population centers have a terrible effect on a persons well-being. Sure there may be some positives, but overall it isn’t healthy or sustainable. This is evidenced by what unfolds in cities, by the Universe 25 experiment, and how civilizations always ultimately unravel/fall apart in the same manner on pretty much the same trajectory. Meanwhile people like the Amish and other small groups of people live in more sustainable, healthy ways for the most part. Sure there are issues in small towns, but at the same time a lot of that is due to the negative effects of the larger structure trickling down to them. Humans only have the capacity to care for about 300 or so people to varying degrees…anything above that and the dehumanization effect starts to creep in and people become indifferent or outright hostile to everyone else.
Not speaking to the video because I haven’t seen it yet, but your suggestion that we’d have to go back to groups of 100 people doesn’t seem accurate. Again look at the Amish. Sure they have their own set of problems because every group will have problems, but there’s isn’t even in the same stratosphere as what the rest of Western Civilization is experiencing. And they are much closer to the tribal aspect of living than we are.
Not speaking to the video because I haven’t seen it yet, but your suggestion that we’d have to go back to groups of 100 people doesn’t seem accurate. Again look at the Amish. Sure they have their own set of problems because every group will have problems, but there’s isn’t even in the same stratosphere as what the rest of Western Civilization is experiencing. And they are much closer to the tribal aspect of living than we are.

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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
My thoughts have already been trending this directions for many months.

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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
There’s a reason you say “up to the 50’s” and there’s a reason it’s true. Look at what happened in the late 50’s-60’s. Some can say it’s just a coincidence, but there is a strong case to be made that it was planned for a very specific purpose. When the tribal bonds of individuals are broken they are much easier to control. Fear and confusion are the most powerful weapons to be utilized by an entity wishing to control populations.Not bad cliffs.
I don't think you have to watch the full video to get the gist of the thing.
I don't agree that she made out tribalism to be all sunshine and rainbows, and if she said anything about a single guy smashing all the women I totally missed that.
There has been previous work showing that humans are best suited to smaller groups and that in large groups social cohesion breaks down. At some point it becomes every man [and woman] for themselves.
I would say that up until roughly the 1950s in the US we had some forms of tribalism so I'm not buying that it can't be done. People formed social support groups based on shared religions [churches and temples], common social institutions [fraternities, sororities], trades [unions], and races [ethnic neighborhoods].
Now most people in urban areas are atomized from the other people living around them.
Why do we have such a problem with gangs? Is it simply profit seeking via illegal business or maybe young people searching for some type of security? Especially young people who do not have a healthy family system for support?
I don't think you have to watch the full video to get the gist of the thing.
I don't agree that she made out tribalism to be all sunshine and rainbows, and if she said anything about a single guy smashing all the women I totally missed that.
There has been previous work showing that humans are best suited to smaller groups and that in large groups social cohesion breaks down. At some point it becomes every man [and woman] for themselves.
I would say that up until roughly the 1950s in the US we had some forms of tribalism so I'm not buying that it can't be done. People formed social support groups based on shared religions [churches and temples], common social institutions [fraternities, sororities], trades [unions], and races [ethnic neighborhoods].
Now most people in urban areas are atomized from the other people living around them.
Why do we have such a problem with gangs? Is it simply profit seeking via illegal business or maybe young people searching for some type of security? Especially young people who do not have a healthy family system for support?
So what am I talking about during the 60’s. Single parenthood was subsidized via the “war on poverty”. The nuclear family has declined steadily ever since. Patriotism and bond to country became uncool, and was replaced by resistance and opposition. Women were turned against men via the women’s lib movement, and were convinced their true happiness was to be found on the path of their career instead of their family. Race relations were escalated to boiling points. Religion started being eroded out of society. Immigration laws were passed which assured the once strong bond of ethnicity would be replaced by groups from all over the country and that the founding demographic would quickly lose its majority status. The list goes on and on. Again, someone could say all of that is just coincidental….but if that’s the case it’s one hell of a coincidence that so many divisive policies and movements popped up at the same time.
08-07-2023, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
It is curious. This post reminds me of the video interview of the old Russian guy talking about how to destroy an enemy. Been posted here a few times.There’s a reason you say “up to the 50’s” and there’s a reason it’s true. Look at what happened in the late 50’s-60’s. Some can say it’s just a coincidence, but there is a strong case to be made that it was planned for a very specific purpose. When the tribal bonds of individuals are broken they are much easier to control. Fear and confusion are the most powerful weapons to be utilized by an entity wishing to control populations.
So what am I talking about during the 60’s. Single parenthood was subsidized via the “war on poverty”. The nuclear family has declined steadily ever since. Patriotism and bond to country became uncool, and was replaced by resistance and opposition. Women were turned against men via the women’s lib movement, and were convinced their true happiness was to be found on the path of their career instead of their family. Race relations were escalated to boiling points. Religion started being eroded out of society. Immigration laws were passed which assured the once strong bond of ethnicity would be replaced by groups from all over the country and that the founding demographic would quickly lose its majority status. The list goes on and on. Again, someone could say all of that is just coincidental….but if that’s the case it’s one hell of a coincidence that so many divisive policies and movements popped up at the same time.
So what am I talking about during the 60’s. Single parenthood was subsidized via the “war on poverty”. The nuclear family has declined steadily ever since. Patriotism and bond to country became uncool, and was replaced by resistance and opposition. Women were turned against men via the women’s lib movement, and were convinced their true happiness was to be found on the path of their career instead of their family. Race relations were escalated to boiling points. Religion started being eroded out of society. Immigration laws were passed which assured the once strong bond of ethnicity would be replaced by groups from all over the country and that the founding demographic would quickly lose its majority status. The list goes on and on. Again, someone could say all of that is just coincidental….but if that’s the case it’s one hell of a coincidence that so many divisive policies and movements popped up at the same time.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Between you and me, you're the AA, you know that right?AAs by far have the most statistical incidents of broken homes and single mothers.
I am not wrong. America would be extremely better off if AAs were segregated or simply left the country altogether.
I am not wrong. America would be extremely better off if AAs were segregated or simply left the country altogether.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
No, it's because you're at a lower socioeconomic level than I am. If you understand them so well, why are they always giving you the finger and trying to run you over? That doesn't happen to me regardless of where I'm at.I certainly know and understand them better than you.
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So basically lets destroy nuclear families and revert back to 50-150 member tribes where everyone fukks everyone?
How about no.
What we need is The Japanese Model: discriminate the fukk out of women.
No jobs, no financial security for women.
Then everything will be OK again.
How about no.
What we need is The Japanese Model: discriminate the fukk out of women.
No jobs, no financial security for women.
Then everything will be OK again.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I grew up around blacks. But I like to live away from others, regardless of their race. That's why I'm on 3 acres. How much land do you own?Lol okay here's the point where Gdfrey is offended and tries to bring up his financial situation as if it is meaningful to me in any real way. You should realize by now that this never works on me and just pretty much announces to me that you're having difficult in countering what I'm saying.
I am around AAs a lot and you are not, you don't like to be near them so you moved to Falls Church which is why you rarely see or interact with them. I know them better than you.
I am around AAs a lot and you are not, you don't like to be near them so you moved to Falls Church which is why you rarely see or interact with them. I know them better than you.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Lol.Instead of Godwin's Law,I'm gonna coin the term Godfrd's law. No matter the argument,it will always result in Godfrd mentioning his success in some pointI grew up around blacks. But I like to live away from others, regardless of their race. That's why I'm on 3 acres. How much land do you own?
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I'm not butthurt at all. It's just funny to see you get all uppity about AAs when like I said, compared to me you're the AA. I still love you though.Lol you're grasping at straws again when you talk about your property like that supposed to make me feel anything other than humor. I'll come back when you're able to continue conversing like a non-butthurt adult.
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