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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
That bottom 50% Americans live better than 99% of britbongs. For example, most Americans have central AC, britbongs are dying when the weather reaches 82 degrees fahrenheit.
Don't need AC because of the climate silly. England definitely has its problems, but the average life expectancy is 4 years higher here and the homicide rate is 6 times lower. I can't recall seeing rows of tents lining up the streets of our leading cities also. You could try fixing these kind of issues, but your corrupt gov prefers sending billions of tax payer money to Ukraine. You ain't winning the next Election either lol.
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Originally Posted By GolfPants
This is retarded. If you add up all those countries and their medal counts, their total populations may be similar but the European olympic team would be 6 times the size.

You don't get to just send as many athletes as you want. You send a team. And really good people get left off of it. Each of those countries sent an entire team to achieve that medal count.

If Europe as a whole had to band together and just send one team like the US does, that medal count would drop. If the US got to send 6 times as many athletes as it does, that medal count would increase.
Lmfao this. These eurocells are so ****ing stupid. They literally can’t even do basic math or a basic thought experiment correctly.

As someone pointed out, people from elsewhere can’t wrap their tiny little brains around the fact that we don’t need to entertain anyone but ourselves. We’ve created our sports for our people, and the athletes in these sports are the most athletic specimens on the planet. These people when they go overseas(Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Tom Brady) are treated like gods.

We mog the Olympics, we have the best golfers in history(all of the top 10 are Americans). The top 5 best boxers of all time are American. The best snowboarder of all time is American. The best swimmer of all time is American. 2 of the top 5 track and field athletes ever are American.


Lmfao at anyone thinking we care about cricket and rugby. If we actually put our athletes into those sports, we’d dominate those too.
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Originally Posted By fballer12
If we actually put our athletes into those sports, we’d dominate those too.
ayyyy
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Originally Posted By TokenV
ayyyy
Funny that you don’t think that if the 10’s of millions of youth athletes instead focused on one of your sports, rather than spreading between our big 4(hockey, basketball, baseball, football), that we wouldn’t dominate. That’s silly.
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Originally Posted By fballer12
Funny that you don’t think that if the 10’s of millions of youth athletes instead focused on one of your sports, rather than spreading between our big 4(hockey, basketball, baseball, football), that we wouldn’t dominate. That’s silly.
funny that you don't see how retarded that makes you sound, imagine me saying if we stopped caring about football (the real kind) and started giving a fuk about basketball we'd totally dominate

also out of your "big 4" you dominate 1, are the only one that plays 1 and are far from dominating the other 2 lmfao
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Originally Posted By fballer12
Lmfao this. These eurocells are so ****ing stupid. They literally can’t even do basic math or a basic thought experiment correctly.

As someone pointed out, people from elsewhere can’t wrap their tiny little brains around the fact that we don’t need to entertain anyone but ourselves. We’ve created our sports for our people, and the athletes in these sports are the most athletic specimens on the planet. These people when they go overseas(Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Tom Brady) are treated like gods.

We mog the Olympics, we have the best golfers in history(all of the top 10 are Americans). The top 5 best boxers of all time are American. The best snowboarder of all time is American. The best swimmer of all time is American. 2 of the top 5 track and field athletes ever are American.


Lmfao at anyone thinking we care about cricket and rugby. If we actually put our athletes into those sports, we’d dominate those too.
the only one that 'might' be recognised would be Jordan. None of the world would recognise the other two rotflmao

the idea that the us olympic team is only so big is also cretinous. Having six teams is irrelevant if five have little to no chance in an event.. Every single county has events they have never and will never win a medal in. Certainly including you
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag
America worships sports where athleticism is the driving factor. Football and basketball.

Don’t care about dork sports like golf. Barely even qualifies as a sport. On par with bowling
Lol all the top players are Europeans though including the reigning champion

Jokic
Luka
Embid
Gianis
Butler

That's one American up there cmon and one African

Also you're guys are gonna get trashed in the Olympics if you dont focus the Canadian lineup is no joke


Lol look at the last 5 mvps and fmvps lmfao!

Inb4 "we've been dominating forever" it's a new era brah the talent has always been there and international players are paying attention Europeans have officially taken over basketball brutal
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Originally Posted By fballer12
We mog the Olympics, we have the best golfers in history(all of the top 10 are Americans). .
nb gary player and harry vardon arent american
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Originally Posted By fballer12
. The top 5 best boxers of all time are American. .
nb two of the top 5 arent, 5 of the top 12 arent


https://www.thedelite.com/the-greate...ime-ranked/33/

was there any truth in anything you posted at all?
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Originally Posted By samsbolton
nb two of the top 5 arent, 5 of the top 12 arent


https://www.thedelite.com/the-greate...ime-ranked/33/

was there any truth in anything you posted at all?
Lmfao what weird list did you find after spend hours combining through google to finally find one that fits your narrative. Manny Pacquiao at #2???? Monzon at #3??? This is the funniest list I’ve ever seen in my life.


https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/08...t-boxers-ever/

9 of the top 10

https://www.yardbarker.com/boxing/ar...e/s1__28860971

19 of the top 20 including all of the top 10 on this list

As for golf, Gary player is the one that maybe cracks the top 10 on peoples lists. The top 5 is undoubtedly American, and the top 2 or 3 are miles ahead of any golfer that any other country has ever produced.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton
the only one that 'might' be recognised would be Jordan. None of the world would recognise the other two rotflmao

the idea that the us olympic team is only so big is also cretinous. Having six teams is irrelevant if five have little to no chance in an event.. Every single county has events they have never and will never win a medal in. Certainly including you
Lmao the only one that “might” be recognized is Jordan… as literally him and the dream team in the 90’s has video of them traveling the world to people screaming trying to get close to them as if they were the beetles on tour. You’re so unaware of reality it’s insane.
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Originally Posted By TokenV
funny that you don't see how retarded that makes you sound, imagine me saying if we stopped caring about football (the real kind) and started giving a fuk about basketball we'd totally dominate

also out of your "big 4" you dominate 1, are the only one that plays 1 and are far from dominating the other 2 lmfao
If your country stopped caring about football and started playing basketball, then yes, you would be better at that sport. Do you think that genetically Belgians are born with something that makes them somehow better at soccer than Americans? No, it’s time and resources and number of athletes put into that sport at scale for any country.

If your tiny irrelevant country switched sports, yes you would be better at that sport. Would you be the best in the world? No, because you’re still a tiny country without the scale of total players and monetary spend to be able to get there.

The USA on the other hand spends $30-40B on youth sports annually, almost 1/12 of your entire countries gdp. You don’t think if we shifted that money and the 10’s of millions of players into soccer, that we wouldn’t be significantly better? It’s hard to even argue with someone when they can’t wrap their head around such a simple concept. You sound mad and bitter, is what it comes down to.

The big 4? We dominate 2 of the 4(basketball and baseball), we’re the 2nd best in the world at the other despite only a small percentage of our country playing it(hockey - and that gap has closed to almost nothing), and football is obviously only Americas sport, but it produces many of the best athletic specimens on the planet. Guys that can run almost as fast at the best track and field athletes, guys who jump 40+ vertical inches, and guys who have extreme quickness and hand eye coordination.
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Originally Posted By fballer12
Lmao the only one that “might” be recognized is Jordan… as literally him and the dream team in the 90’s has video of them traveling the world to people screaming trying to get close to them as if they were the beetles on tour. You’re so unaware of reality it’s insane.
they were at the olympics in barcelona and utterly derided for being the only team there made up of professionals. For a lot of people in what was when the olympics died

as pathetic as the yank girls beating vietnam at soccer, none of whom were more than four and a half feet tall, and making out it was a historic acheivement
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Originally Posted By fballer12
Lmfao what weird list did you find after spend hours combining through google to finally find one that fits your narrative. Manny Pacquiao at #2???? Monzon at #3??? This is the funniest list I’ve ever seen in my life.


https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/08...t-boxers-ever/

9 of the top 10

https://www.yardbarker.com/boxing/ar...e/s1__28860971

19 of the top 20 including all of the top 10 on this list

As for golf, Gary player is the one that maybe cracks the top 10 on peoples lists. The top 5 is undoubtedly American, and the top 2 or 3 are miles ahead of any golfer that any other country has ever produced.
Vardon is the ONLY golfer with six Opens and had no opportunity to play in half the majors as they didnt exist

Easily top three.
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You all do realize you are responding to a post made a grown adult who thinks he is clever for issuing annual awards on a dying bodybuilding forum mostly inhabited by homosexual indian men right I mean no offense of course but honestly considering that behavior for a moment gives me richter scale douche chills
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The yankee cope is hilarious.
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Originally Posted By fballer12
If your country stopped caring about football and started playing basketball, then yes, you would be better at that sport. Do you think that genetically Belgians are born with something that makes them somehow better at soccer than Americans? No, it’s time and resources and number of athletes put into that sport at scale for any country.

If your tiny irrelevant country switched sports, yes you would be better at that sport. Would you be the best in the world? No, because you’re still a tiny country without the scale of total players and monetary spend to be able to get there.

The USA on the other hand spends $30-40B on youth sports annually, almost 1/12 of your entire countries gdp. You don’t think if we shifted that money and the 10’s of millions of players into soccer, that we wouldn’t be significantly better? It’s hard to even argue with someone when they can’t wrap their head around such a simple concept. You sound mad and bitter, is what it comes down to.

The big 4? We dominate 2 of the 4(basketball and baseball), we’re the 2nd best in the world at the other despite only a small percentage of our country playing it(hockey - and that gap has closed to almost nothing), and football is obviously only Americas sport, but it produces many of the best athletic specimens on the planet. Guys that can run almost as fast at the best track and field athletes, guys who jump 40+ vertical inches, and guys who have extreme quickness and hand eye coordination.
no chit brah, I'm calling you out because you're certain USA'd be the best at everything if theyjust put their mind to it

do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?

also, how the fuk do you come to the conclusion that

- you dominate baseball? lmfao, pls elaborate

- you're second in icehockey? lmfao, pls elaborate

you're either:

- delusional
- retarded
- both of the above
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Originally Posted By TokenV
no chit brah, I'm calling you out because you're certain USA'd be the best at everything if theyjust put their mind to it

do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?

also, how the fuk do you come to the conclusion that

- you dominate baseball? lmfao, pls elaborate

- you're second in icehockey? lmfao, pls elaborate

you're either:

- delusional
- retarded
- both of the above
Yes, I’m saying that a country with the population and resources as big as ours, with the strong athletic tradition we have, would absolutely be the best if it was the popular sport, rather than it being a 6th or 7th most popular sport. Our best athletes don’t grow up playing soccer. Period. It’s really not that hard to grasp.

We have the strongest athletic tradition in the world. Ground zero for 4 of the top grossing sports leagues in the world, 3/4 of the top 25 net worth sports clubs are in the US including all of the top 10, college athletics in the US nets more than most professional sports leagues around the world do. 7 of the top 10 largest sports stadiums in the world are US college football stadiums. We have the most medals of any country in Olympic history by far.

1. Baseball? You mean America’s pastime? We have by far the most professional baseball players of any country, and any time we actually put together our best players we win internationally. The only reason we sometimes lose to Japan is because a. They take much more pride in their national team than we do, and b. Because most of our best players don’t actually play in international tournaments to avoid risking injury.

2. Hockey? We have the 2nd most players in the nhl by nationality. Canada has 40%, we have 28%. Sweden is 3rd with 9%. Obviously Finland and Sweden punch above their weight considering the size of their countries, but that comes down to the point. The sheer size of the us means that even when we don’t prioritize that sport(hockey isn’t super popular here), we still put out more players into the pros than almost any other country on earth.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton
they were at the olympics in barcelona and utterly derided for being the only team there made up of professionals. For a lot of people in what was when the olympics died

as pathetic as the yank girls beating vietnam at soccer, none of whom were more than four and a half feet tall, and making out it was a historic acheivement
Everything you post is complete and utter bs. You have the most obvious inferiority complex in history.

Every other Olympic team had pros on it except for usa until the dream team.


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Originally Posted By HayZues
Everything you post is complete and utter bs. You have the most obvious inferiority complex in history.

Every other Olympic team had pros on it except for usa until the dream team.


Kill yourself.
This. I didn’t even bother responding to that post because it was so ridiculous.

Everyone knows that every other country on the planet was using its top players, including pros, except for the United States.
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Originally Posted By fballer12
Yes, I’m saying that a country with the population and resources as big as ours, with the strong athletic tradition we have, would absolutely be the best if it was the popular sport, rather than it being a 6th or 7th most popular sport. Our best athletes don’t grow up playing soccer. Period. It’s really not that hard to grasp.

We have the strongest athletic tradition in the world. Ground zero for 4 of the top grossing sports leagues in the world, 3/4 of the top 25 net worth sports clubs are in the US including all of the top 10, college athletics in the US nets more than most professional sports leagues around the world do. 7 of the top 10 largest sports stadiums in the world are US college football stadiums. We have the most medals of any country in Olympic history by far.

1. Baseball? You mean America’s pastime? We have by far the most professional baseball players of any country, and any time we actually put together our best players we win internationally. The only reason we sometimes lose to Japan is because a. They take much more pride in their national team than we do, and b. Because most of our best players don’t actually play in international tournaments to avoid risking injury.

2. Hockey? We have the 2nd most players in the nhl by nationality. Canada has 40%, we have 28%. Sweden is 3rd with 9%. Obviously Finland and Sweden punch above their weight considering the size of their countries, but that comes down to the point. The sheer size of the us means that even when we don’t prioritize that sport(hockey isn’t super popular here), we still put out more players into the pros than almost any other country on earth.
ok brah you clearly have another view on "dominating"

we pay the most players in the world and we only lose on the field because we're not commited so we clearly number 1!! USA USA USA USA !!!!

second most players in our NATIONAL Hockey League are from USA, we're second best in the world! USA USA USA USA !!!!

pls go, you have no grasp what sports is about
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Originally Posted By fballer12
Yes, I’m saying that a country with the population and resources as big as ours, with the strong athletic tradition we have, would absolutely be the best if it was the popular sport, rather than it being a 6th or 7th most popular sport. Our best athletes don’t grow up playing soccer. Period. It’s really not that hard to grasp.

We have the strongest athletic tradition in the world. Ground zero for 4 of the top grossing sports leagues in the world, 3/4 of the top 25 net worth sports clubs are in the US including all of the top 10, college athletics in the US nets more than most professional sports leagues around the world do. 7 of the top 10 largest sports stadiums in the world are US college football stadiums. We have the most medals of any country in Olympic history by far.

1. Baseball? You mean America’s pastime? We have by far the most professional baseball players of any country, and any time we actually put together our best players we win internationally. The only reason we sometimes lose to Japan is because a. They take much more pride in their national team than we do, and b. Because most of our best players don’t actually play in international tournaments to avoid risking injury.

2. Hockey? We have the 2nd most players in the nhl by nationality. Canada has 40%, we have 28%. Sweden is 3rd with 9%. Obviously Finland and Sweden punch above their weight considering the size of their countries, but that comes down to the point. The sheer size of the us means that even when we don’t prioritize that sport(hockey isn’t super popular here), we still put out more players into the pros than almost any other country on earth.
The US is the only country where soccer is a "rich kids sport"- sorry we don't have kids who live in squalor playing "soccer" barefoot in an alleyway. There is no path to financial freedom playing soccer in America, so it is not important to the inner city youth.
Could you imagine if Jamal and Rashon from Hollywood Fl decided to stop focusing their efforts on being defensive backs in the NFL and started playing soccer? The rest of the world would be in shambles.

Never forget that in 1976 an American closeted tranny dominated the rest of the world in the Olympic Decathalon.
Never forget that in 1992 an American cross dresser dominated the rest of the world in the Olympic boxing.


snooker, darts.. pretty much no one, ever

Pool & Darts? Those aren't sports mate, those are drunkie games.
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Originally Posted By fballer12
Lmfao what weird list did you find after spend hours combining through google to finally find one that fits your narrative. Manny Pacquiao at #2???? Monzon at #3??? This is the funniest list I’ve ever seen in my life.


https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/08...t-boxers-ever/

9 of the top 10

https://www.yardbarker.com/boxing/ar...e/s1__28860971

19 of the top 20 including all of the top 10 on this list

As for golf, Gary player is the one that maybe cracks the top 10 on peoples lists. The top 5 is undoubtedly American, and the top 2 or 3 are miles ahead of any golfer that any other country has ever produced.
Vardon won 6 out of 20 Open championships he played in. And one of only three us opens he played in

Nobody has ever dominated major championship golf like that. He was better than Jack or Tiger

The boxing list was the first one that came up on Google but it at least has a proper statistical basis not a biased pissed up yank writer droning on about guys he never even saw
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Originally Posted By samsbolton
Vardon won 6 out of 20 Open championships he played in. And one of only three us opens he played in

Nobody has ever dominated major championship golf like that. He was better than Jack or Tiger

The boxing list was the first one that came up on Google but it at least has a proper statistical basis not a biased pissed up yank writer droning on about guys he never even saw
The hilarious part is that I'm convinced they actually believe that delusional chit. Their entire world view is so warped.
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Originally Posted By TokenV
ok brah you clearly have another view on "dominating"

we pay the most players in the world and we only lose on the field because we're not commited so we clearly number 1!! USA USA USA USA !!!!

second most players in our NATIONAL Hockey League are from USA, we're second best in the world! USA USA USA USA !!!!

pls go, you have no grasp what sports is about
Actually, it does matter how many professional athletes we have if the best players from all over the world come to our league to play. Having the 2nd most players by far in the best league in the world means that we have the 2nd largest talent pool of the top players in the world. It’s a pretty simple concept really.

Canada has the most top hockey talent in the world, USA has the second most. Sweden, Russia, and Finland are in a distant 3rd, 4th, and 5th. If they had more players good enough to play in the NHL, they’d have more players in the NHL. No one turns down playing in the most notable league in the world that pays the most money. The NHL is THE league in the world. It just happens to be in the USA.

And yes, to your point about not trying in international competition. USA basketball lost a few Olympics in a row in the early 2000’s. At the time only some rookies and B level guys were joining the team, and there wasn’t much effort put into pre-tournament practice. In 08, we decided we were done with losing, and most of our best players decided to play, and they actually had real team training and chemistry building leading up to the Olympics. It was called the redeem team and we absolutely dominated, beating almost every team by 30+ points.
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Originally Posted By fballer12
Actually, it does matter how many professional athletes we have if the best players from all over the world come to our league to play. Having the 2nd most players by far in the best league in the world means that we have the 2nd largest talent pool of the top players in the world.It’s a pretty simple concept really.

Canada has the most top hockey talent in the world, USA has the second most. Sweden, Russia, and Finland are in a distant 3rd, 4th, and 5th. If they had more players good enough to play in the NHL, they’d have more players in the NHL. No one turns down playing in the most notable league in the world that pays the most money. The NHL is THE league in the world. It just happens to be in the USA.

And yes, to your point about not trying in international competition. USA basketball lost a few Olympics in a row in the early 2000’s. At the time only some rookies and B level guys were joining the team, and there wasn’t much effort put into pre-tournament practice. In 08, we decided we were done with losing, and most of our best players decided to play, and they actually had real team training and chemistry building leading up to the Olympics. It was called the redeem team and we absolutely dominated, beating almost every team by 30+ points.
Lmao so whoever has the most players in the Premier League is the best football nation? What a retarded take holy chit. Of course a national league is going to have more players of that nationality.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Lmao so whoever has the most players in the Premier League is the best football nation? What a retarded take holy chit. Of course a national league is going to have more players of that nationality.
Yes, umm kinda. You’re on the right track, but not quite. Let me help you out.

There is something to be said about whoever has the most players in the premiere league. However, soccer is way more diluted in the sense that there’s other competitive leagues. There are plenty of good players who technically could play in the premiere league, but choose to play in the bundesliga, La liga, etc. Ronaldo is even playing in Saudi Arabia.

This isn’t the case with the NHL, NBA, or MLB. These are the best leagues in the world by far for their sport, and they pull from the world talent pool. If you’re good enough to make it, you play in the nhl, regardless of what country you are from. If you aren’t good enough, you choose to play in the Russia, Sweden, etc as a back up. These other leagues aren’t as good, and don’t have the money to pay players the way the nhl does. In soccer, teams outside of the premier league can lure players away with large contracts.

It’s very simple and you seem to not be able to grasp the difference just because it has the word “national” in the name. All of the best players in the world play in the NHL. Not all of the best soccer players in the premiere league.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton
Vardon won 6 out of 20 Open championships he played in. And one of only three us opens he played in

Nobody has ever dominated major championship golf like that. He was better than Jack or Tiger

The boxing list was the first one that came up on Google but it at least has a proper statistical basis not a biased pissed up yank writer droning on about guys he never even saw
Your example is really someone who played golf in the late 1800’s?? Lmfao.

This is silly. No one in the golf world, including Brit’s, scots, and players, commentators, press from any country doubt that tiger and Jack are the two best golfers of all time. It’s not even close. You’re the only person in the world who brings up Vardon.
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Originally Posted By fballer12
Yes, umm kinda. You’re on the right track, but not quite. Let me help you out.

There is something to be said about whoever has the most players in the premiere league. However, soccer is way more diluted in the sense that there’s other competitive leagues. There are plenty of good players who technically could play in the premiere league, but choose to play in the bundesliga, La liga, etc. Ronaldo is even playing in Saudi Arabia.

This isn’t the case with the NHL, NBA, or MLB. These are the best leagues in the world by far for their sport, and they pull from the world talent pool. If you’re good enough to make it, you play in the nhl, regardless of what country you are from. If you aren’t good enough, you choose to play in the Russia, Sweden, etc as a back up. These other leagues aren’t as good, and don’t have the money to pay players the way the nhl does. In soccer, teams outside of the premier league can lure players away with large contracts.

It’s very simple and you seem to not be able to grasp the difference just because it has the word “national” in the name. All of the best players in the world play in the NHL. Not all of the best soccer players in the premiere league.
america has a competitive soccer league and still sucks at it
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