Believe it or not, I could bench 255 lbs for 3 reps when I was 17 and around 185-190 lbs. I was so much stronger then because I was heavier but I also had a few years of consistent lifting under my belt. Unfortunately, injuries, chronic pain, and depression have made it so I haven't been consistent since I was a teenager. I also took breaks where I didn't lift for years. I'm doing my best now. I started lifting again in March of this year. Who said I can only bench 155 lbs? Also, I'm not training to become a bench press specialist.

You sir, are Master Troll.

Now go take a shower, son and wash that greaseball you call a head.

You think you can talk to me like that just because you're my dad?!

I probably won't shower today because I showered yesterday afternoon after my workout. I will wash my hair tomorrow.

Don't make me slap you upside your head!

OP, you need to buy this hair product (it mogs hair gel)



and you need to switch out your razor cartridge.

Oh, that makes more sense

[QUOTE=FA******* post_id=1688284033]OP, you need to buy this hair product (it mogs hair gel)

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and you need to switch out your razor cartridge.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll buy this tonight with some other items I need from Amazon and give it a try. What do you mean I need to change razors? I've been using the[b]Gillette Fusion5[/b]for several years now. I'd love to use a straight razor for a closer shave, but never tried that before and it seems dangerous. The pic I showed is probably a couple days after shaving.

Doubt

You have a thicc ass neck which is common in strong lifters. But the physique doesn't back it up. Also u mentioned u got bullied. No one in high school benching that much gets bullied.

More like change to a fresh cartridge. Usually when you get that 8th grader looking beard, it means you've been pushing your current cartridge too long.

Sounds like you don't shave every day tho, which would explain the beard too. I'd either step it up and shave daily or commit to some kind of facial hair. The in-betweener look is just kind of sloppy, and the rest of the image you're going for is like more IT professional.

I use a safety razor, and it's phuckin sick, but it is more time consuming than a cartridge razor shave. On the good-fast-cheap tradeoff, it picks good and cheap.

It's true. My physique has changed over the years, but it's never been that great overall. Lol at that logic though. I wasn't lifting those weights in the HS gym. I lifted at a gym where no one from my HS went. I got bullied my first year of university as well. After that I've mostly been a forever alone. I've been working to change that.I see. I'll probably use a new razor if I shave before a date. I'm going to start shaving more often once I lean down, which makes sense because my jaw will be defined so there won't be a point in hiding it with facial hair. I don't like growing my facial hair out for more than a week or so. I like the exfoliation from shaving. I don't mind spending more time for better quality. I have to balance the level of danger with the quality of the shave.

Switched to a straight razor, badger brush, and real shaving cream about 13 years ago and am really glad I did. Cartridges are mostly expensive pieces of chit and aren’t good for your skin. Paid like $120 for the razor back then. Very good and very cheap compared with cartridges. I actually like that it’s slower. Encourages me to take some fairly relaxing time to myself rather than rushing all the time.

Stop. Don’t listen to him and just use my text as I wrote it. Don’t change it.

Did you see my reply to your previous post?https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1688230323
Your shaving setup sounds awesome. Yep, refills on the cartridges are expensive. I will look into changing my shaving tools. It hasn't been too big of a deal for me, but I know I'd be happier with my shave if I could use a straight razor. I remember admiring the close shave I'd see on some guys in TV shows.Do you believe the actual context isn't as important as the woman being interested? I've found it easier to say things when there's at least mild interest. I tried my best with the single mom, and nothing has worked so far. I'm not going to throw the towel in just yet. I'll use your line at some point, I'm sure. I was thinking of opening up my Tinder profile toEveryone(no homo) and only swiping on women. It may increase my ELO on Tinder? Idk. I need to lean down and then take better pictures. Will probably remake Tinder, make a Bumble, and make a Hinge when I get lean. Then maybe do a photoshoot. Here are the people who've liked me on Tinder...lol. I made it about a month ago and I got these likes within the first 2 days then nothing since. Btw I'm using code I found from GitHub to reveal who has liked me. I haven't paid for Platinum or anything else. Not sure why it only shows 10 profiles but says 12 likes.

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LOL. YOu gonna get gaped by tyrone's BBC in the last pic.

Why do you think I'm trolling? I am not trolling. That actually happened.

This thread is painful to read but I can't help but root for OP. Everything is going pretty brutal so far though.

You seem to be somewhat okay irl so I'd advise you to text as little as possible and have as many irl meetings as possible.

OP, you seem like a good guy. I hardly ever misc any more, but this thread caught my attention and I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents (hopefully you're not trolling)

I think you've gotten decent advice here in general, but not all of it has been good. Just gonna spit some thoughts out at random here.

I think your hair looks best in the first pic you posted of the new haircut. Don't do the forward/messy thing.

The advice you have received about how to text/converse with women is generally good in that you do seem to tend to overshare, and make things more complicated than necessary. However, if my impression of you is right, I think you're looking for a quality girl and something meaningful, not a one nighter from some bar sloot. That should come through in your interactions. You could maybe stand to be a tiny bit less formal, but I would def err on keeping things the way they are, instead of purposely texting like a 14 year old. Don't force slang or swearing or anything like that. You're an adult, and you're looking for a quality woman, it's not "cool" to come across like an idiot. I would pretty much write off a woman who didn't write/speak properly.

This brings me to my next point, DO NOT listen to PUA bull****. That stuff is for losers looking to fool sloots with their insincerity for long enough to bang them before the girl realizes he's a loser. You could stand to keep things a bit less wordy and a little more casual, but you can do that while still being yourself. Quality girls don't respond to PUA bs. And girls who are flaky or give short responses with no emotion or questions for you, well, they're not really interested. You don't have to be rude or cut them off or something, but when you get responses like that, you can pretty much assume it's unlikely to go anywhere. You can stay open to the possibility of her reaching out again or something, who knows maybe she was just having a bad day. But don't devote too much more time there, it's wasted energy. The type of responses this newest girl gave you is more what you're looking for. Exclamation marks from her are a good sign she's interested, as well as her asking you questions.

Hope this helps a bit. Tl;dr is take advice (which you have shown you are willing to), but still be yourself. If you're looking for something real, what's the point of pretending you're someone else just to get a foot in the door? She will see the real you eventually, and you want someone who likes the real you. Good luck

Thanks for rooting for me. I thinkbrutalis a pretty strong word. For example, I've approached 6 women in the gym and 3 of them have given me their number. The 3 who didn't give me their number have boyfriends (I know 1 of them does for sure because I saw them working out together, but I didn't realize they are together at the time - she was alone when I approached her). This is a small sample size and I'm not implying that I have a 50% chance of getting any woman's number at the gym. I have a date lined up for this upcoming Saturday with a woman I met this past Wednesday. She's been texting me every day since this past Thursday and seems to really like me. I agree about IRL. I have a better chance IRL b/c I can try to be unique and build rapport, which is borderline impossible to do over text or at least significantly less potent compared to IRL.

Getting a number is nothing if you fuk it up every time. You seem to get a good rapport from women irl and your texting is absolutely some of the cringiest stuff I've ever read in my entire life. I think trying to up your texting game from being 1/10 to 5/10 would take ages. You're betting off trying to avoid texting as much as possible and prioritizing irl meetups/dates. Maybe even ask em out for a drink/coffee or something before even asking their number.

Once you've been on a few successful dates, if the chick is into you, she won't mind the ultra cringy texting abilities and just take the full package. Regarding the looks, I don't think looking somewhat nerdy is bad. It's 2023, there's not that much of a stigma surrounding nerds anymore. Besides that, it's who you are so they'll find out at some point anyway.

Thanks for the reply. It means a lot especially since you've hardly posted in the many years you've been here. I appreciate you thinking that I seem like a good guy. I believe I am. I'm definitely not trolling. Just tired of being alone and single and figured the misc is the best outlet for me given my history of being on here and the support I've received. This thread holds me accountable and I am a man of my word. I see what you mean about the hair. It is highly subjective about which look is the best, but I will be styling it differently and seeing what feels best. Unfortunately, it's a bit short, but looking forward to it having some length again so I can style it and it won't look as goofy.

I am looking for a quality girl, yes. As I wrote recently, I would not mind being with, for example, 10+ women in the next year or so if it meant I could gain experience and a better understanding of what I'm looking for in a life partner. That may sound stupid, but I honestly haven't been with that many women. I have been with 7 total in my life, and a couple of those did not involve penetration. Yeah, changing the way I write just to dumb down my responses is not what I'm about. I got the job I have now because I'm aprofessionalwho cares about the quality of his work. I also happen to enjoy writing. Yeah, unintelligent behavior in a woman is a turn off for me.

I think hearing PUAs out isn't a bad thing. I liken it to gaining a wider perspective. I may or may not agree with what they're saying, but I can listen and take in bits of information and potentially use some of it but in a different way. Kind of like being inspired by someone else, not necessarily imitating them or reciting their words verbatim. The single mom is exactly that. I'm not going to tell her off or anything because that isn't in me. I've never done that to a woman. I am fine with having her number in my phone and the ball being in her court. I try not to think about her now - it was a nice experience and I fantasized about being with her. The woman I met recently is a breath of fresh air. Her and I have so much in common and she's sexy. I'm really excited about seeing her IRL again.

The nerdy thing is hard to shake because my voice isn't that deep and I just look like a nerd because of my face, medium frame, and b/c I'm not heavily muscled. I swallowed the black pill on getting numbers recently and I agree that numbers don't necessarily mean anything. An action cannot be the same every time with a woman because each scenario is different. I think general guidelines (e.g., making eye contact, being assertive, etc.) are worthy of being followed, but I'm not sure that asking a woman out IRL is the right play if her and I have just met. I feel like you could graph that with looks on the y-axis and time on the x-axis. The more time one gets to spend with a woman, the less good looking (to a point of course) he would have to be in order to get a number (that's my theory, at least). Why? Well why would she give her number to someone who's barely spoken to her? Likely only if she's attracted to him. It takes time to build rapport. There are of course other reasons for her giving her number out, such as not wanting to hurt the guy's feelings or not wanting to potentially create an antagonizing situation b/c she knows she will be seeing him again (a likely consideration for someone I approach at the gym).

One of the best things OP has going for him is his inhibition. Which means he can rack up approaches and opportunities.

The texting was overbearing and oversharing, which is why I advised leaning towards IRL as much as possible in the early stages. Once a woman builds emotional connection, the nerdy texts won't matter as much. They might even become an attractive trait to her (in a funny way because it's so autistic).

I'll say a couple of things I've observed so far:
- I think OP is pretty far along the autism spectrum, which is hindering his ability to correctly empathize and (likely) build social connection with women, or even understand what's socially appropriate (e.g. DM'ing on Linkedin). So even outside the context of dating, I'd highly recommend in-person therapy to help with all aspects of life and social. Which should help generally improve quality of life.
- I don't think escaping personality is even feasible or maybe even desirable. Maybe just embrace the nerdy part (while addressing the autism), and find a woman that connects with it. I was going to suggest some types of nerdy meetups like book club, chess club, etc. where nerdy women are likely to be.

You're welcome. I used to lurk a lot but not really post, now I don't even visit much. When I do post, I want it to be because I can contribute information or help someone. As I said, I think you seem like a good guy, which is why I bothered to even post.

I do get your perspective about wanting to gain experience, that's understandable. But don't base your value on the number of women you've slept with. That's degenerate behavior. My number probably wouldn't be considered that high by most people, but the women I've been with have been attractive, intelligent, very successful women, in the context of a serious relationship. There is value to learning what you want/need from a partner. But you should also value yourself enough to know who's worth your time, and who isn't. What do you think you'll learn more from, 10 relationships with girls who are flaky and immature and fizzle out, or one or two serious ones that teach you about yourself and what you really care about?

I also understand what you're saying about the PUA stuff, but I think you need to be careful. I mean no disrespect, but I don't know that you have enough experience to separate the wheat from the chaff. How do you know what is good advice if you don't have much context in which to place that advice? I would personally advise you ignore it altogether. You have to figure things like that out for yourself, and that comes with time and experience.

I think you are right to seem hopeful about the new girl. Based upon the message from her that you posted here, and the fact that she is texting you regularly, she seems promising. Again, good luck.

Haha, thank you. Myinhibitionfluctuates, but I'm at the point in my life where I have this perspective: if I don't approach someone I like (at the gym, since that's currently the only public place I go) then I am potentially throwing away a meaningful connection. It may only turn into a date or a rejection. However, it may turn into me meeting my future wife. The current alternative is don't approach anyone at the gym and rely on apps (I'm only on Tinder atm) for trying to meet someone. I've already experienced how incredibly frustrating the apps are. IRL is so much better. I think you said some similar things to what I just did in my previous post. I agree about the therapy. I am considering things based on how much progress has been made. Assuming I don't have a loving girlfriend within the next several months, I will make more changes. For example, I am seriously considering surgery to improve the appearance of my nose (get rid of the deviated septum), but it's not something I need to book immediately since I'm in the process of getting lean and working on myself in other areas. It's as if I need to check certain boxes before other boxes are unlocked. I'll keep approaching women at the gym and see where it goes. If it isn't working well, then I think hanging out at a bar or going to a nerdy meeting is appropriate.

I probably should have been clearer about 10 women. Of course it would be fun to have a ONS or two, or more, because I've never had one before. I was thinking how amazing it would be to try different women out. My current experience is very limited. I know what I'm attracted to, and I agree I would rather have quality over quantity when it comes to relationships. I may need more practice with sex (srs). It would be nice to have and never hurts to learn new things in the bedroom. I am kinky, for the right girl.I see what you mean about PUA. I'm not following any PUAs, but I've watched some of it before. The progress I've made since I started this thread is much more than the ZERO progress I made from May '22 - June '23 (yes, over a year). Thank you for the well wishes regarding this new woman.

I'm glad you're making progress, but I'm starting to think we may view things a bit differently. Do you want a girl who has a history of ONS? I don't, so I don't do it myself. Oh I've had the opportunities, but when a girl makes it obvious that she just wants to jump in bed, I turn her down. Sex isn't that complicated, you probably watch porn and expect that. When you care about the person you're with, it's natural. It's not something you have to think about, because it just works and you go with it if the connection is there. If you're looking to get someone to jump into bed with you, well... I probably could help with that too. But I won't, because I don't advocate that kind of behavior. I really mean no disrespect here, different people want different things and that's fine, but I may have gotten a bit of the wrong impression about you and your motives. Either way, hope you figure out what makes you happy.