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post 1688290793 08-13-2023, 03:05 PM
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Germany considers banning far-Right party AfD as they surge in the polls



https://archive.ph/0JfCq

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ht-extremists/


Call to 'defend democracy' as party surges to 21pc in opinion polls

Germany is debating whether to ban the far-Right Alternative for Germany (AfD) as the party surges to 21 per cent in the polls, amid warnings from intelligence officials that its members are becoming increasingly extreme.

Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the German president, warned in a speech to the country’s domestic intelligence agency that “we all have it in our hands to put those who despise our democracy in their place”.

His speech at the castle where the German post-war constitution was created has widely been seen as support for a ban after Thomas Haldenwang, the domestic spy chief, warned about growing Right-wing extremist influence in the party.

Mr Haldenwang said: “We see a considerable number of protagonists in this party that spread hate against all types of minorities here in Germany.”

It comes amid warnings of the increasing influence of Björn Höcke, the leader of the AfD in the eastern state of Thuringia.

Mr Höcke, a former history teacher, is known for his Hitler-esque language – with his allies sweeping the board for European lists at the party’s conference in Magdeburg in August.

In a rare move, the respected Der Spiegel news magazine weighed into the debate with a leader titled: “Ban the enemies of the constitution!”

It warned that “the AfD has become more and more radicalised. It’s time to defend democracy with better weapons”.

The co-leader of Olaf Scholz’s ruling Social Democrats also said a ban should be considered if the AfD is categorised as a group of “proven Right-wing extremists” by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

However Friedrich Merz, the leader of the Christian Democratic Union, warned that “banning parties has never actually solved political problems”.

Meanwhile, the German Institute for Human Rights, a non-governmental organisation, declared last week that “the AfD have reached a degree of dangerousness that they can be banned according to the constitution”.

They warned in an analysis that the party is actively and methodically trying “to implement its racist and Right-wing extremist goals” and “shifting the limits of what can be said so that people can get used to their ethno-nationalist positions”.

Germany has a troubled history of parties being banned, with Otto von Bismarck, the country’s first chancellor, banning the Social Democrats for disloyalty to the Kaiser.

When the Nazis came to power, they banned all other parties.

The German Democratic Republic (East Germany) also banned other parties not affiliated with the ruling Socialist Unity Party.

The post-war German constitution, keen to avoid this authoritarian excess, made a party ban legally difficult. Attempts to ban the neo-nazi NPD party in 2003 and 2017 both failed at the highest court.

Volker Boehme-Nessler, a political scientist, said he does not believe the party meets the high legal hurdles for a ban.

He warned that a failed attempt would only give the AfD an additional boost in the election campaign, he told eastern German broadcaster MDR.

“You can’t simply ban a party that gets 20-30 per cent approval” in various states, he added.

Germans are evenly split on whether the party should be banned, with 47 per cent of the country in favour of a ban and 47 per cent against.

A ban is more popular in the west and among liberal Greens.
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Germany has been flooded with third world immigrants, like the rest of Western Europe.

It’s amazing liberals didn’t think there would be a reaction. Parties to the right are gaining popularity in Europe.

The difficulty Germany has is there has been two world wars and both were started by them.
post 1688291193 08-13-2023, 03:12 PM
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Germany is the number one pussy ass bitch country, having been blamed for a fake genocide and told that they are to commit civilizational suicide to atone for it.

Right now there is a global consciousness awakening and everyone is coming to the conclusion that Hitler was right
and the jews are in hyper kvetching mode, since they are responsible for nearly every problem including the escalation of war against Russia.

post 1688291493 08-13-2023, 03:21 PM
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So when a candidate is popular you try to cancel that candidate and call it democracy.

I wonder what the extreme views are? Not worshipping the ground that trannies walk on. Not being pro-immigrant.
post 1688291723 08-13-2023, 03:27 PM
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post 1688291773 08-13-2023, 03:29 PM
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Isn’t that exactly how democracy is supposed to work?
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I wouldn't be surprised if US Democrats pull a stunt like this in the 2024 elections. I can just picture CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, WaPo etc all claiming that a win for Republicans will be the end to women's rights, LGBTQ rights, a threat to civil rights etc etc etc.
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post 1688291863 08-13-2023, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze
I wouldn't be surprised if US Democrats pull a stunt like this in the 2024 elections. I can just picture CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, WaPo etc all claiming that a win for Republicans will be the end to women's rights, LGBTQ rights, a threat to civil rights etc etc etc.
But they're already doing that
post 1688291993 08-13-2023, 03:36 PM
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Hopefully Germans are smart enough to stop before they only become around 60% white like the USA currently is. Only a matter of time before whites become 40% of the USA population. Of course USA was founded on immigration, while Germany was not, so its even more important.

Germany is still 85% white (source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany#scroll down to Ethnic minorities and migrant background ) so its not yet too late. Once non-whites hit 20%, it will be white extinction from there onwards. The invasion will irreversible. Good thing that the Russia/Ukraine war will spread thousands(if not millions) of Ukrainians, Russians and Bulgarians to western Europe and the USA.
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post 1688292033 08-13-2023, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
So when a candidate is popular you try to cancel that candidate and call it democracy.

I wonder what the extreme views are? Not worshipping the ground that trannies walk on. Not being pro-immigrant.
Lmao for real.

There’s no country that got cucked harder than Germany. They’re a literal joke.
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post 1688292083 08-13-2023, 03:38 PM
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Banning "fascism" is a very fascist move.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
Isn’t that exactly how democracy is supposed to work?
Democracy doesn't exist anymore.

There is a unified power that's pulling the strings of all western governments.

They own the media. They own the politicians. They will crush anything that threatens them.

They, are the jews.

srs.



Those are all owned by Sinclair Broadcasting Group.

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Yep. Jew Fink's BlackRock:

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Who is behind the Trump arrests? Walk the chain of command, and you'll find Soros.

We'll see this more and more, but nobody is going to do anything, because there has been a one-sided war against whites that have turned them into whiney bitches that complain about how they can't get laid.
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post 1688292423 08-13-2023, 03:48 PM
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I've always wondered, does far right in other countries support the same thing as far right in the US? I mean I would have to think it's not a direct parallel because countries have different needs.

Like, is far right also pro gun in Germany as an example? Or is that not even an issue?



My guess is articles like the one OP posted are going to use phrases like "far right" and "far left" to get a reaction out of people like OP. I admit I could be wrong of course, but my hunch is the political system in Germany doesn't have the same parallels as a U.S. or even U.K. based political party.

I mean here's a f*cking breakdown of their parties as further proof:
Christian Democrats: Located on the center-right, the CPD has been Germany's most electorally successful party. Founded in 1945 by a coalition of anti-Nazi groups and conservatives, the party brings together Protestants and Catholics, and generally follows pro-market, socially conservative policies.

Social Democrats (SPD): The SPD is Germany's oldest party, and thought of as its second largest. Founded in 1863, the party was once Marxist-influenced but has become more moderate in the past 50 years. Nowadays, it lies in the center ground and tends to propose social protections for workers, greater environmental regulation, and socially liberal policies.

Free Democrats (FDP): Positioned to the right of the CDP economically, but socially very liberal, the FDP is hard to place in German politics. Headed by Christian Lindner, and founded in 1948, it regularly wins 7-8% in elections.

Die Linke: Created in 2007 by left-wing dissidents in the SDP, Die Linke is a left-wing party that draws inspiration from anti-capitalist thinkers. Successful in the post-Communist East, it holds over 60 Bundestag seats.

Alternative for Germany (AFD): Highly controversial, AFD is a right-wing nationalist party that seeks to reduce immigration and occupies anti-Islam positions. It has few allies in other parties, which tend to work to reduce its growth and influence.
By this definition your CPD's are your Republicans I would assume. The Social Democrats are the same as U.S. Democrats. The Free Democrats are who the f*ck knows because they're halfway favoring what U.S. Republicans support and halfway favoring issues U.S. Democrats support. The Die Linke is your nut job U.S. Liberals. And the AFD is your nut job U.S. conservatives (aka miscers).

If CPD is the equivalent to Republicans though it sounds like that's the most successful party, which right now is not the case in America over the last 20 years.


And if AFD really is the equivalent to the nut job U.S. conservatives then they legit should consider banning them. Why would it be ok for extremists of either party to gain momentum you retards? That would be bad here too, but most of you are too low IQ to understand this concept.
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"Germans are evenly split on whether the party should be banned, with 47 per cent of the country in favour of a ban and 47 per cent against."

This is actually the scariest part of the entire article. It's not just a few left wing extremists in power who want to ban them, they've literally convinced half of their population that it should be done.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
"Germans are evenly split on whether the party should be banned, with 47 per cent of the country in favour of a ban and 47 per cent against."

This is actually the scariest part of the entire article. It's not just a few left wing extremists in power who want to ban them, they've literally convinced half of their population that it should be done.
Europeans are fully cucked, that's why they're taught to obsess over making America more like them, they can't stand half of America values freedom.
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These types of articles about Germany always remind me of the hype around LePen, in France, before the elections.

Every election the right thinks she's gonna break through, only to get absolutely destroyed by Macron or some other neoliberal lol.
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Originally Posted By 128
Europeans are fully cucked,that's why they're taught to obsess over making America more like them, they can't stand half of America values freedom.
Who is being taught that? Never heard that a single time in my life.
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Perhaps there are reasons this party has gained popularity among the population at large. Other than out of control immigration I don't know enough to know the reasons why. Trying to play wack-a-mole won't change the sentiment among the people.

And of course the obvious, when was banning a political party a part of democracy? Maybe listen to the people and you'll figure out you're not doing your job as they want you to do. It sounds like the other parties aren't representing the people.
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Originally Posted By superfunk
We must abolish democracy to save it
What's ironic about this, is that it is exactly what Hitler did.

This time it's being done by the left, so they think it's acceptable.
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This kind of thing always works out well, like throwing an Austrian painter in prison

We’ll see how it goes this time
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Originally Posted By Barteh
"Germans are evenly split on whether the party should be banned, with 47 per cent of the country in favour of a ban and 47 per cent against."

This is actually the scariest part of the entire article. It's not just a few left wing extremists in power who want to ban them, they've literally convinced half of their population that it should be done.
Imagine believing polls lol.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
Imagine believing polls lol.
“Here’s what 9 random people outside of a meth house said but will reflect the entire population”
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
Imagine believing polls lol.
Imagine straight up dismissing the legitimacy of all polls because you're from a cucked country with rigged elections where they bust out fake polls daily.
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Originally Posted By ChunkBuster
Germany has been flooded with third world immigrants, like the rest of Western Europe.

It’s amazing liberals didn’t think there would be a reaction. Parties to the right are gaining popularity in Europe.

The difficulty Germany has is there has been two world wars and both were started by them.
Fukkin LOL. Germany didn't start World War One
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Imagine thinking klaus schwab hasn't already rigged the polls.
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