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post 1688456983 08-16-2023, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
JLC MUST be getting paid. This dude would rather die than admit the vaccine in not 100% safe.
The attempted character attack is inconsistent with my posts.

I believe you can do better
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The attempted character attack is inconsistent with my posts.

I believe you can do better
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...mutations.html
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...mutations.html
Kids on their way back to school soon, too.
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Literally the leading cause of death for under-50s in this country is drug overdose.....

Maybe if big pharma wasn't responsible for our leading cause of death, they would get a bit more respect from the population.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Literally the leading cause of death for under-50s in this country is drug overdose.....

Maybe if big pharma wasn't responsible for our leading cause of death, they would get a bit more respect from the population.
Fair.

But, the world is also larger than the US.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
JLC MUST be getting paid. This dude would rather die than admit the vaccine in not 100% safe.
Going as far back to the Canada trucker protest thread, that couldn't have been more obvious.

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181037813

Taking into account how many pro govt/vax enforcement posts he cranked out in that thread, as well as the recent glut of vax spam threads...yeah dude is definitely on some payroll somewhere. Thankfully, covid is pretty much over and done with and it's now only a matter of time before the paid disinfo positions are chit-canned by the powers that be.
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Originally Posted By HaiMeesk⏩
Going as far back to the Canada trucker protest thread, that couldn't have been more obvious.

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=181037813

Taking into account how many pro govt/vax enforcement posts he cranked out in that thread, as well as the recent glut of vax spam threads...yeah dude is definitely on some payroll somewhere. Thankfully, covid is pretty much over and done with and it's now only a matter of time before the paid disinfo positions are chit-canned by the powers that be.
I believe you can do better

It's entirely possible to not buy into CT's without anyone paying people to not buy into CT's.

I wonder if the CT machines would pay people to propagate those on the internet?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Fair.

But, the world is also larger than the US.
K, well, unfortunately the hyper-addictive drugs that are available world wide, originate here.

Honestly every other country would end up better off it they full-stop banned USA big pharma from being used in their civilized countries. USA is cashing out.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
K, well, unfortunately the hyper-addictive drugs that are available world wide, originate here.

Honestly every other country would end up better off it they full-stop banned USA big pharma from being used in their civilized countries. USA is cashing out.
I dunno.

I think a lot of ******** on the street comes from China.

The US does have some vaccine manufacturing tho.

Are non-American pharma companies (Moderna) okay?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The attempted character attack is inconsistent with my posts.

I believe you can do better
It's not an attach on your character. Well know that the vaccine is not 100% safe, but you still refuse to even admit that much.

But I didn't expect you to do better.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
It's not an attach on your character. Well know that the vaccine is not 100% safe, but you still refuse to even admit that much.

But I didn't expect you to do better.
Trying to invalidate my contributions to the discussion by making things up about me getting paid is a weak attempt at a character attack.

I've never said there is zero risk of vaccination. I've been consistent in suggesting decisions can (and should) be based on weighing the risks of immunonaive infection against the risks of vaccination.

Everything I've seen suggests the risks of vaccination are orders of magnitude lower.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I dunno.

I think a lot of ******** on the street comes from China.

The US does have some vaccine manufacturing tho.

Are non-American pharma companies (Moderna) okay?
Moderna trades on NASDAQ, so I'd say no to be safe.

They also SPONSOR the jeopardy tournament on TV lmao.

Imagine that? prescription drug developers ADVERTISING to NPC's watching TV... jesus christ.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Moderna trades on NASDAQ, so I'd say no to be safe.

They also SPONSOR the jeopardy tournament on TV lmao.

Imagine that? prescription drug developers ADVERTISING to NPC's watching TV... jesus christ.
I guess that's what adds fuel to the baby is worth the bathwater argument.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I guess that's what adds fuel to the baby is worth the bathwater argument.
Don't forget your BOOSTERS this fall everyone!

big pharma is here to SAVE US ALL!



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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Trying to invalidate my contributions to the discussion by making things up about me getting paid is a weak attempt at a character attack.

I've never said there is zero risk of vaccination. I've been consistent in suggesting decisions can (and should) be based on weighing the risks of immunonaive infection against the risks of vaccination.

Everything I've seen suggests the risks of vaccination are orders of magnitude lower.
Well, now you can say you have read at least one study that says otherwise:

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript...50/v1/download

Cliffs:
Vaccine effectiveness in reducing hospitalizations and deaths have waned over time, indicating the vaccine effectiveness was never good to begin with and was falsely correlated.
Vaccine causes myocarditis and pericarditis, AND myocarditis and pericarditis wasfalslyassociated with covid infection, indicating adverse side effects areundercounted.
There is a direct correlation with vaccine uptake and excess deaths everywhere you look.

PS. There are numerous other studies like this one that shows the vaccine is ineffective and is not worth the risk, but this one sums it all up nicely.

PS. PS. The average age of covid deaths is 80+ and multiple co-morbidities. Meaning, there is NO risk of infection. Who would have guessed that if you are old and sick you are about to die. The vaccine did not save a single life, but it has taken many and it's not even done. The average age of death will continue to plumet over the next 80 years. Myocarditis and pericarditis takes 10-15 years off of your life expectancy. You heart NEVER recovers.

Don't even get me started on cancer. People that were perfectly healthy and cancer free before they got the vaccine and booster suddenly have stage 4 cancer. My Step-father is one of them.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Well, now you can say you have read at least one study that says otherwise:

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript...50/v1/download

Cliffs:
Vaccine effectiveness in reducing hospitalizations and deaths have waned over time, indicating the vaccine effectiveness was never good to begin with and was falsely correlated.
Vaccine causes myocarditis and pericarditis, AND myocarditis and pericarditis wasfalslyassociated with covid infection, indicating adverse side effects areundercounted.
There is a direct correlation with vaccine uptake and excess deaths everywhere you look.

PS. There are numerous other studies like this one that shows the vaccine is ineffective and is not worth the risk, but this one sums it all up nicely.

PS. PS. The average age of covid deaths is 80+ and multiple co-morbidities. Meaning, there is NO risk of infection. Who would have guessed that if you are old and sick you are about to die. The vaccine did not save a single life, but it has taken many and it's not even done. The average age of death will continue to plumet over the next 80 years. Myocarditis and pericarditis takes 10-15 years off of your life expectancy. You heart NEVER recovers.
I think many, if not most, were disappointed that effectiveness dropped off with omicron.

But, I don't think I've seen anyone argue against waning? It seems like a possible straw man.

Given that the waning from "natural" acquired immunity follows a similar trajectory, I don't see how this counters my argument that risks from vaccination seem to be orders of magnitude lower than risks from infection.

The myocarditis life expectancy claims are not supported by evidence.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I think many, if not most, were disappointed that effectiveness dropped off with omicron.

But, I don't think I've seen anyone argue against waning? It seems like a possible straw man.

Given that the waning from "natural" acquired immunity follows a similar trajectory, I don't see how this counters my argument that risks from vaccination seem to be orders of magnitude lower than risks from infection.

The myocarditis life expectancy claims are not supported by evidence.
You are going to die on that hill.

Just sayin'
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
You are going to die on that hill.

Just sayin'
Only purebloods are immortal?

There can be only one!
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Only purebloods are immortal?

There can be only one!
Lmao. Keep shilling for big pharma. The leading cause of death. Retard.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Lmao. Keep shilling for big pharma. The leading cause of death. Retard.
It's like elephants hiding in trees

Opioids bad, so vaccines bad, and covid not bad.

Wow strong logic.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's like elephants hiding in trees

Opioids bad, so vaccines bad, and covid not bad.

Wow strong logic.
I have all my vaccines. Just don't have any mrna's. And never will. Unless they can produce a positive RCT.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I have all my vaccines. Just don't have any mrna's. And never will. Unless they can produce a positive RCT.
But those vaccines are made by pharma, no?

Did you find a non-pharma vaccine source?
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But those vaccines are made by pharma, no?

Did you find a non-pharma vaccine source?
No, the vaccines I have showed no death in the RCT vaccinated group for the disease it was designed to beat.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
No, the vaccines I have showed no death in the RCT vaccinated group for the disease it was designed to beat.
Sweet!

We're there deaths in the control groups?

Links to non-pharma vaccines?

Because opioid crisis anything made by pharmaceutical companies is bad, very bad
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Sweet!

We're there deaths in the control groups?

Links to non-pharma vaccines?

Because opioid crisis anything made by pharmaceutical companies is bad, very bad
Literally responsible for the leading cause of death LMAO.

Imagine the mental gymnastics required to shill for THAT.

Maybe you're just a share holder, I dunno.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Literally responsible for the leading cause of death LMAO.

Imagine the mental gymnastics required to shill for THAT.

Maybe you're just a share holder, I dunno.
So where does one get the acceptable non-pharma vaccines?
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...mutations.html
Your liberal friends in power have a lot to answer for destroying the lives of young kids

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-Covid-19.html
ERs overwhelmed by surge of kids with depression and suicidal thoughts after Covid-19 pandemic
Doctors said children as young as six are turning up at ERs talking about suicide
Three prominent medical groups have begged for more local mental health help
READ MORE: Up to A THIRD of adults now have depression in some US counties
Make little kids stay indoors

Don't let them out to play

Force their parents to close their livelihood

Close their schools so they can't socialize

Scare them into taking vaccines they don't need
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[QUOTE=freeheeler post_id=1688520623][b]Your liberal friends in power have a lot to answer for destroying the lives of young kids

[URL=https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12417077/pandemic-anxiety-ERs-surge-kids-depression-suicidal-thoughts-Covid-19.html]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-Covid-19.html[/URL]




[b]Make little kids stay indoors

Don't let them out to play

Force their parents to close their livelihood

Close their schools so they can't socialize

Scare them into taking vaccines they don't need[/b][/QUOTE]Who said/advised kids had to, or should, stay indoors? When was that said/advised?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Who said/advised kids had to, or should, stay indoors? When was that said/advised?
In the USA, they literally wrapped public playgrounds with caution tape LMFAOOOOOO.

not sure what happened in canada.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Who said/advised kids had to, or should, stay indoors? When was that said/advised?
Are you a special kind of stupid?
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