Lol, no I am American. Those emojis don't seem to show up well on this forum. Seems to break my reply feature at times.

Well this is a bit disappointing. The woman I was supposed to drive 160 miles round trip to see in a few hours just canceled on me. We'll see if she wants to reschedule, but I'll give her time.

Definitely give her space but cancelling is not a good sign

Usually means they’re uninterested but they’re just not straight up about it

I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to appear pessimistic. I made it about as easy as possible by coming to her instead of her coming to me or us meeting halfway. I also chose a nice restaurant - not overly fancy, but still something that could easily lead to a bill near $200 for 2 people.

Yeah, the timing is very suspicious. I'm quite literally going out of my way to see her, even though I don't believe it came across as desperate. I believe it came across as accommodating and gentlemanly. I've noticed this pattern where many women I've met IRL or online won't be straight up with me. They'll saying things like, "I don't give out my number" or cancel a meeting at the last minute with a bogus excuse. I 100% agree with your statement about her willingness to reschedule.

Why the hell are you even pursuing single mothers?

Yeah when they’re interested you’ll know, they’ll make time for you and want to see you

Anything wishy washy is a no

I'm not actively pursuing them, but it happens to be that a few of the numbers I've gotten belong to single mothers. Seems like there's a fair share of available women who have children. If I had to state a preference (granted, I don't believe I can bethatpicky), I'd say that I want a woman who doesn't have children and is open to the idea of having children. This way her and I could start a family together.

You're right. It's funny because the most recent example I have of someone rescheduling a date I proposed came from the woman who has a boyfriend. She wanted to see me badly enough to where she told me the time she's available. I'm still holding on to the idea of her and I eventually being together even if the current situation is less than ideal (i.e., I'm herfriendwhen I want to be her lover).

Lol’d at request to the girl with a bf for a photo of just your hands together. Then lol’d more at “Samesies” to the HJ friend. Then Lol’d even more to “Yay! to the 160-mile round trip single mother.

What on earth are you doing, OP?

This thread, wow. I kept skipping it because of the thread title, but I’ve now just got caught up on the entire thing. For the love of fuk, stop pandering to their every needs, you need them to see you as their equal, yeah, you might be lucky enough to eventually get one of these to agree to a relationship with you, but overtime, they’re going to end up walking all over you.

I’ll admit, there are parallels here to how I used to act. I grew up being away from my father, I was an introverted geek who didn’t take care of my appearance, so with any female interaction I used to go over the top and put them off. As people have said a billion times in this thread already, stop coming on too strong, let them chase you a little. Those tinder messages are way too cringe.

Don’t be the guy best friend lol

I absolutely despise them and don’t trust them even a little

None of this is real.

The woman whose hand I held is a friend who doesn't have a boyfriend - it's the same person who gave me an HJ. Her and I are just friends - it's mutual that we both aren't interested in a relationship. Yes, "Samesies" was to HJ friend. Lol, that single mother is likely not interested. Won't be asking her for another chance at driving a long way for a no show.Thanks for spending some time to get to know this thread. I feel like its length is partly a reflection of my discipline and willingness to keep trying despite it not being something I am naturally good at. I am not sure which parts are considered pandering to their needs, but I know that I do NOT want to be a doormat or seen as a beta male. Yep, growing up with no father and having no real experience has resulted in what you see here today. Tinder is terrible for me this go around. I'm hoping that changes once I get below 10% body fat. I can retake pictures and potentially get some professional photo work done.This is such a tough thing to describe right now. My optimistic view is this: She clearly wouldn't be talking this much to someone she doesn't have an interest in. She wouldn't hangout with me on a weekend if she didn't like me. She wouldn't dress up and look sexy as hell if she didn't like me. She wouldn't continually ask me questions and want to learn everything about me if I'm just some guy she's interested in being friends with. I believe the more time her and I spend together, the more likely it will be that we'll end up together. If we keep seeing each other, she's bound to come back to my place or we'll inevitably spend more time together than just a ~70 minute lunch. By the way,she initiated a hug with mewhen she saw me at the restaurant. I was not going to go for a hug because of what she said about not being single.It's all real.

Ok! Congrats on ur personality transplant :-)

[QUOTE=HangingChad post_id=1688682443][img]https://i.imgur.com/ULTPtUR.png[img]

Ok! Congrats on ur personality transplant :-)[/QUOTE]I just laughed reading some of my replies from[b]2006[/b]. Personality transplant? I was a junior in high school at that time.

All good. This thread started out with you saying you couldn't write or text like a normal person, but based on posts you had that ability at one point. Hopefully you can get there again some day. Real talk, this thread has been a lot of laughs so you've got my respect and appreciation (srs).

Thank you very much. My writing has improved a lot since high school. A simple example is me writing "Your a moron" in one of the replies in your screenshot. I've only gotten better as a writer. I just skipped out on the whole dating and relationship thing for the vast majority of my teen/adult life.

As a follow up toHangingChadsaying I've changed personalities: I recently reactivated FB to get access to old pictures. I'm going through my messages I sent. Look at this gem from2008. LMFAO. This may not be that funny, but it's an example of me trying to add a woman I'd seen in a college class on FB.

OP, try to adopt more of an abundance mindset so that you aren’t describing virtual strangers as people you “still hold out hope” will one day be in a relationship with you.

I was thinking this same thing after receiving a few texts today from the woman you're referring to. As I get ready for bed, I am reflecting on how great my Saturday was: I got to see a woman I have a great connection with for lunch, went to the gym and had a solid workout, including doing deadlifts with a friend, and then spent the evening with a female friend and got my rocks off (albeit no penetration) for the first time in a long time. I'm trying to play it cool and see how things go with the woman I like. I shouldn't get my hopes up, I know. In the words of a salesperson, "I'm still pursuing other leads." It's hard to not think about her though. As long as it isn't interfering with my day-to-day, then I believe it's okay to think about her. I've only known her for a week and a half, but she's made me so happy (I know that sounds pathetic). I'm looking forward to seeing her again. If there's an opportunity to escalate (such as her being at my place, us being in a romantic setting, etc.) then I will go for it. In the meantime, I'm trying to play it cool, remain in contact with her through text, and not get too attached.

I haven't read the past 16 pages of this sht but did you smash chick on OP are u talking about someone else

I haven't had sex with anyone since I made this thread. The post you quoted refers to a woman I met recently at the gym and wrote about in the second paragraph of post #274:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1688085883
Any of the iPhone messages with the letterMat the top are with her.

Only update for today is that I have happily kept in touch withM(the woman who has a boyfriend). Today she asked me such a sweet question.



Also posting this picture of me from last September with short hair and a lower body fat. I am looking forward to getting leaner than I was in this pic. I'm two weeks into my cut and it's going well.

Lose the ****ing glasses already and don't mention your nose.

The most OBVIOUS and simple thing to do, and you won't do it.

Stop talking to the boyfriend girl. You’re just an orbiter. It’s never going to go anywhere.

May I have time to lean down first before I buy contacts? I intend to buy new glasses relatively soon, so I'll get contacts as well. I've never worn contacts, but I'll try it out. I like your idea. I have to get another eye exam anyway so I can have the most up-to-date prescription. P.S.Mtold me the glasses make me look younger (srs).Isn't there only one way to find out? I love talking to her. She's made me happy. I'm still thinking about how fun it was to see her for lunch this past Saturday. She was so pretty.

Will you be okay with it if a few months in you're still buying her dinner, but you still haven't done anything sexually?

What on earth is the benefit of leaning down before getting contacts?