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post 1688755203 08-22-2023, 07:36 AM
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The Panama Canal is Running Out of Water!!!!

Focus: Historic drought, hot seas slow Panama Canal shipping:

https://www.reuters.com/business/env...ng-2023-08-21/

OF COURSE,The restrictions already are sending China-U.S. spot shipping prices up as much as 36%

The Panama Canal Authority has reduced maximum ship weights and daily ship crossings in a bidto conserve water. Maritime transportation experts fear such events could become thenew normalas rainfall deficits in the world's fifth-wettest country spotlight climate risks affecting the ocean shipping industry that moves 80% of global trade.

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According to and AP article published in 2019,Paton (who heads the long-term climate monitoring program at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute,) forecast that the canal has enough water to last at least 18 years, although if extreme climate patterns persist, water could reach precariously low levels within 15 years.

https://apnews.com/article/f0ab0672c...ced4a648c48d88

Last I checked, it's not 2034, but the media and the democrats are moving up the timeline on such things to keep the train rolling in a coordinated effort to move their bogus agendas forward.
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so when the glaciers melt we can just send the water there, right?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
so when the glaciers melt we can just send the water there, right?
So when the media tells you the canal is dry and vessels have to offload product creating a bottleneck and an increase in prices, but it's stated in writing in 2019 that the canal has enough water to run 15-18 years, you of course believe the media.
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Originally Posted By Midi77⏩
So when the media tells you the canal is dry and vessels have to offload product creating a bottleneck and an increase in prices, but it's stated in writing in 2019 that the canal has enough water to run 15-18 years, you of course believe the media.
please I don't even believe the canal exists
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Any media article that uses the term new normal should instantly be disregarded and the writer sent to gitmo
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Originally Posted By Midi77⏩
Last I checked, it's not 2034, but the media and the democrats are moving up the timeline on such things to keep the train rolling in a coordinated effort to move their bogus agendas forward.
Not sure of how "the democrats" are involved in the operation of the canal?

Regardless, the canal is a huge investment, probably with decisions made on a 100 year outlook, so 15-20 years is nothing. Billions were spent on the new locks to include water conservation measures because the whole thing will be worthless without the lake above to feed it.
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Maybe I'm a half tard since I don't know how canals work, but couldn't ocean water be directed into the canal? Seems like an artificial reservoir and dam project that wouldn't take that long.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Not sure of how "the democrats" are involved in the operation of the canal?

Regardless, the canal is a huge investment, probably with decisions made on a 100 year outlook, so 15-20 years is nothing. Billions were spent on the new locks to include water conservation measures because the whole thing will be worthless without the lake above to feed it.
If the outcome fits their alarmist agenda, of course the democrats, and the media, are behind it.

Again, the point being, why is the media claiming the canal is drying up in 2023, when projections in 2019 were far beyond this point. Who's limiting water in the canal and why? Put it all together and it makes perfect sense.
post 1688764733 08-22-2023, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Midi77⏩
If the outcome fits their alarmist agenda, of course the democrats, and the media, are behind it.

Again, the point being, why is the media claiming the canal is drying up in 2023, when projections in 2019 were far beyond this point. Who's limiting water in the canal and why? Put it all together and it makes perfect sense.
Explain it like I'm 12. Who is limiting the water in the canal?
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Originally Posted By MrQuint⏩
Explain it like I'm 12. Who is limiting the water in the canal?
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Maybe I'm a half tard since I don't know how canals work, but couldn't ocean water be directed into the canal? Seems like an artificial reservoir and dam project that wouldn't take that long.
Just take a hose from everyone’s pool and drain it in
post 1688765243 08-22-2023, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Maybe I'm a half tard since I don't know how canals work, but couldn't ocean water be directed into the canal? Seems like an artificial reservoir and dam project that wouldn't take that long.
The majority of the canal is 85' above sea level. It's already the largest artificial lake ever, took 10 years to build.

post 1688765713 08-22-2023, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By MrQuint⏩
Explain it like I'm 12. Who is limiting the water in the canal?
The corporations that would benefit from higher prices and bottlenecks, the climate alarmists and democrats who want everyone riled up.

Again the point being, if the canal had enough water to run 15-18 years from 2019, and has apparently dried up, one doesn't have to look very far to understand an agenda is at play.
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Originally Posted By Midi77⏩
If the outcome fits their alarmist agenda, of course the democrats, and the media, are behind it.

Again, the point being, why is the media claiming the canal is drying up in 2023, when projections in 2019 were far beyond this point. Who's limiting water in the canal and why? Put it all together and it makes perfect sense.
No one is "limiting water in the canal". The canal is just a lake, when it doesn't rain enough to keep the lake full they have to use the locks less often and limit the size of the boats so they don't run aground.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
The majority of the canal is 85' above sea level. It's already the largest artificial lake ever, took 10 years to build.

If anyone has an hour or so to kill I would recommend watching what went into the construction of it. Should be on the the history channel/engineering that built the world.

Over 25K workers died during its construction, most of them when the French tried to build it before we took over.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
No one is "limiting water in the canal". The canal is just a lake, when it doesn't rain enough to keep the lake full they have to use the locks less often and limit the size of the boats so they don't run aground.
I guess you didn't read my previous posts or what was said in 2019. There was sufficient water in reserves to run the canal for at least 15-18 years outward of 2019. If we're to "believe" there hasn't been enough rain to run the canal efficiently in 2023, either someone has artificially tampered with the water levels, or we are being lied to in 2023.
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You really want meaningful climate change, then go after the biggest polluters; China, India, Pakistan, Egypt, Iran, etc. Until they do their part, no amount of "green" anything will make any meaningful changes to the global environment.
Yeah, that's all well and good, but when the media and 1/2 of government is lying to you about the true nature of the issue, I'd say that's more a critical issue than what the climate is currently doing.

There's a climate change industry setup currently to ONLY reward climate alarmists. Throw in corrupt politicians and media and you have what we have today, chaos.
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Originally Posted By Midi77⏩
I guess you didn't read my previous posts or what was said in 2019. There was sufficient water in reserves to run the canal for at least 15-18 years outward of 2019. If we're to "believe" there hasn't been enough rain to run the canal efficiently in 2023, either someone has artificially tampered with the water levels, or we are being lied to in 2023.
Or the article from 2019 was inaccurate and/or incomplete.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
The majority of the canal is 85' above sea level. It's already the largest artificial lake ever, took 10 years to build.

Got it. Still though compared to the building of the canal pumping in desalinated sea water seems rather low effort, especially considering the importance of the canal. The Israelis and Saudis know how to desalinate without it costing what the US would inefficiently spend.
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Originally Posted By Midi77⏩
Yeah, that's all well and good, but when the media and 1/2 of government is lying to you about the true nature of the issue, I'd say that's more a critical issue than what the climate is currently doing.

There's a climate change industry setup currently to ONLY reward climate alarmists. Throw in corrupt politicians and media and you have what we have today, chaos.
Hey only Trillions of taxdollars are being spent to give to giant corporations for climate change hysteria. It's not like millions of people with vested corporate interests, large investors in said corporations and politicians seeking power would be seeking money and power, would they? It's not like they'd completely avoid low tech, cheap answers (I could make a list) and instead pursue extremely expensive solutions to line pockets. No way that would be happening, noooo sirreee.
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Why don't they just seed some clouds and make it rain? They gonna act like we don't already manipulate that chit all over the world?
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Not that it's relevant but I manned a twin .50 cal deck mounted machine gun for many hours while traveling though the canal. Set my camera up on a tripod with a 30 second timer and made a stop motion slide show of both sets of locks.
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Originally Posted By Jimbo0731⏩
Why don't they just seed some clouds and make it rain? They gonna act like we don't already manipulate that chit all over the world?



Cloud seeding? Sounds like a conspiracy theory we definitely haven't been doing for decades.
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This is absurd.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Got it. Still though compared to the building of the canal pumping in desalinated sea water seems rather low effort, especially considering the importance of the canal. The Israelis and Saudis know how to desalinate without it costing what the US would inefficiently spend.
51,000,000 gallons of water needed for each 36 ship crossings per day. I'm sure it's possible, but at what cost compared to the reliability of a "free" gravity based system, and will ships pay it or sail around the cape.
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But they have been getting a lot of rain.
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