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Thread: I'm persistent, but respectful (pics)

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Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
What on earth is the benefit of leaning down before getting contacts?
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Will you be okay with it if a few months in you're still buying her dinner, but you still haven't done anything sexually?
I'd be okay if she's only my friend a few months from today. I can afford to treat her to much more than what I did this past Saturday. Her and I text each other a few times a day. She's very inquisitive. I don't have to put in 80-90% of the work, as I have when talking with other women. I'd be shocked if her and I haven't held hands and kissed if we're still texting and hanging out in a few months. I want to see how well we continue getting along and how often she intends on seeing me in person, outside of the gym. I'm also wondering what activities she's willing to do with me. As I mentioned before, she suggested we go to a concert together and has hinted at learning things from me which I interpret to mean she's willing to come over to my place. If she's willing to do that then she's probably interested in exploring something physical with me.
Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
What on earth is the benefit of leaning down before getting contacts?
I have a better look overall when I'm leaner. It's crazy how easily I hold fat in my face and stomach. I have to be on the high end of lean in order to look closer to my best. My guess is low or medium lean will be the best balance of visible abs and lean face, but I've never been that lean in my life. That's why I'm cutting to find out.Essentially, I'll have more confidence if I'm lean so I'll be able to accept not using my glasses as a crutch.
post 1688801853 08-23-2023, 12:14 AM
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[QUOTE=Luc1fer post_id=1688801243][img]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/896/332/1b1.gif[img][/QUOTE]I really appreciate you, Luc1fer. I like Seinfeld.[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

The only[i]update[/i]for today is that I've texted with[i]M[/i], sent a message on IG to a woman I saw on Tinder and she replied that she can't see me this weekend because of family, and I used all my free swipes on Tinder (only have 3 matches in total and one is the single mom who canceled plans for our date this past Sunday).
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
I haven't had sex with anyone since I made this thread. The post you quoted refers to a woman I met recently at the gym and wrote about in the second paragraph of post #274:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1688085883
Any of the iPhone messages with the letterMat the top are with her.
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Originally Posted By JuicePro⏩
17 threads and no smash... what in tarnation
Heโ€™s so money and he doesnโ€™t even know it.
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Originally Posted By JuicePro⏩
17 threads and no smash... what in tarnation
I know you meant pages, not threads, but yes. I'm trying to remain optimistic and not get down because, for example, I don't have a lot of status. I will likely try to improve my status when I get lean. I'm still tracking everything I eat and making an effort each day to reach out to women. Here's what I had today. It's thanks to people in this thread that I got rid of processed foods. I'll weigh myself tomorrow and ensure I'm hitting the right calories and macros to be in an estimated deficit of 400-500 calories per day. P.S. What doesn't show up in the screenshot below is baby spinach, a multivitamin, and a ginger/turmeric pill. I don't count those. All I drink (aside from milk with breakfast) is black coffee in the morning then sparkling water or purified water for the rest of the day.

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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
I know you meant pages, not threads, but yes. I'm trying to remain optimistic and not get down because, for example, I don't have a lot of status. I will likely try to improve my status when I get lean. I'm still tracking everything I eat and making an effort each day to reach out to women. Here's what I had today. It's thanks to people in this thread that I got rid of processed foods. I'll weigh myself tomorrow and ensure I'm hitting the right calories and macros to be in an estimated deficit of 400-500 calories per day. P.S. What doesn't show up in the screenshot below is baby spinach, a multivitamin, and a ginger/turmeric pill. I don't count those. All I drink (aside from milk with breakfast) is black coffee in the morning then sparkling water or purified water for the rest of the day.

Good stuff bro but you shouldn't call yourself 'low status'. True status comes from within, not the sheep society
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
I'd be okay if she's only my friend a few months from today. I can afford to treat her to much more than what I did this past Saturday. Her and I text each other a few times a day. She's very inquisitive. I don't have to put in 80-90% of the work, as I have when talking with other women. I'd be shocked if her and I haven't held hands and kissed if we're still texting and hanging out in a few months. I want to see how well we continue getting along and how often she intends on seeing me in person, outside of the gym. I'm also wondering what activities she's willing to do with me. As I mentioned before, she suggested we go to a concert together and has hinted at learning things from me which I interpret to mean she's willing to come over to my place. If she's willing to do that then she's probably interested in exploring something physical with me.
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Women say these things but donโ€™t mean it, they just like the idea. Itโ€™s just a bit of escapism and attention for them. Youโ€™re a free lunch.

Donโ€™t waste your energy boyo. You would have banged already if it was going to happen. Going for the long game on someone elseโ€™s girl never works. I wasted a couple of months doing this myself in college, I cringe now thinking back at it.
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
Essentially, I'll have more confidence if I'm lean so I'll be able to accept not using my glasses as a crutch.
Sounds silly. Glasses are more of a handicap than a crutch (figuratively speaking, obviously).
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Lose the ****ing glasses already and don't mention your nose.

The most OBVIOUS and simple thing to do, and you won't do it.
Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
Sounds silly. Glasses are more of a handicap than a crutch (figuratively speaking, obviously).
Probably because OP is using someone else's photos lol
post 1688836173 08-23-2023, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By HighTide11⏩
Heโ€™s so money and he doesnโ€™t even know it.
Are you being serious? If so, thanks. I used to be too self-deprecating when speaking with others. I realized how big of a turn off that is. I do my best to never put myself down, especially in front of women I'm interested in.
Originally Posted By JuicePro⏩
Good stuff bro but you shouldn't call yourself 'low status'. True status comes from within, not the sheep society
Thank you. To clarify, I meant status in terms of online presence. I don't think I'm low status by income or education.
Originally Posted By miscbro333⏩
Women say these things but donโ€™t mean it, they just like the idea. Itโ€™s just a bit of escapism and attention for them. Youโ€™re a free lunch.

Donโ€™t waste your energy boyo. You would have banged already if it was going to happen. Going for the long game on someone elseโ€™s girl never works. I wasted a couple of months doing this myself in college, I cringe now thinking back at it.
Economics taught me that there's no such thing as a free lunch. I enjoy spending time with her. It would be different if I had hordes of women clamoring for my attention. Atworst, it's good practice. We've been on 1 date and have known each other for 2 weeks -bangingthis soon is not something I expect.
Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
Sounds silly. Glasses are more of a handicap than a crutch (figuratively speaking, obviously).
Perhaps it depends on the person judging. For example,M(the woman who has a bf) says they make me look younger. She used to wear glasses herself, but switched to contacts.
Originally Posted By HangingChad⏩
Probably because OP is using someone else's photos lol
I don't understand why you'd think that...the photos are all mine.

Here's my DL (picture taken a few years ago):
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
Perhaps it depends on the person judging. For example,M(the woman who has a bf) says they make me look younger. She used to wear glasses herself, but switched to contacts.
Many miscers vs. one seemingly unloyal sloot who avoids wearing glasses herself.
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Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
Many miscers vs. one seemingly unloyal sloot who avoids wearing glasses herself.
Okay, I see your point (or at least part of it). Seemingly unloyal sloot? Sheesh! I don't believe she is. I believe she's a good woman. Time will tell.
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
Okay, I see your point (or at least part of it). Seemingly unloyal sloot? Sheesh! I don't believe she is. I believe she's a good woman. Time will tell.
Aren't you hoping she cheats on her bf with you?
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Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
Aren't you hoping she cheats on her bf with you?
The most likely scenario for her to end up with me is for her to cheat on her bf with me. Another possibility is they break up before her and I have done anything sexual. She continues to show interest as a friend, even after I told her, in person, how I feel about her. I'm not necessarilyhopingshe cheats. I'm trying to play it cool, although that's easier said than done. One thing I picked up on during our lunch date was that she got annoyed when someone called her a few times. I believe I've done a good job of giving her space, yet showing my interest and making my feelings for her clear.
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
https://i.imgur.com/xpTc2iL.png
My bad brah, didn't mean to upset you. Regardless of whether or not this thread is real tea it's more entertaining than most. You're a good writer, keep the updates coming (and hopefully a woman soon too!)
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
The most likely scenario for her to end up with me is for her to cheat on her bf with me. Another possibility is they break up before her and I have done anything sexual. She continues to show interest as a friend, even after I told her, in person, how I feel about her. I'm not necessarilyhopingshe cheats. I'm trying to play it cool, although that's easier said than done. One thing I picked up on during our lunch date was that she got annoyed when someone called her a few times. I believe I've done a good job of giving her space, yet showing my interest and making my feelings for her clear.
Sounds like you're hoping she cheats on her bf.
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Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
Sounds like you're hoping she cheats on her bf.
The heart wants what the heart wants.

Lust is a dangerous game, son. Step back and look at the bigger picture. Somone's gonna get hurt.
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Originally Posted By HangingChad⏩
My bad brah, didn't mean to upset you. Regardless of whether or not this thread is real tea it's more entertaining than most. You're a good writer, keep the updates coming (and hopefully a woman soon too!)
It's all good. I'm not upset. It's real. Thanks, I try to write to the best of my ability. I've never had formal training in writing as an adult, but I've practiced doing it for a while. I will keep the updates coming! I really hope I find a nice woman as well. I've been catching these glimpses of what it would be like to have a girlfriend and it's unreal. The quality of life improvement I could have is immense.
Originally Posted By legbroke⏩
Sounds like you're hoping she cheats on her bf.
I like how you reworded your previous post, but said basically the same thing.
I guess I wouldn't mind if she cheated. However, it's difficult to say how she views me. As I've said before, she may see me asonlya friend regardless of what I do. On the other hand, she could be mildly attracted to me and the mere-exposure effect could lead her to being madly in love with me one day. I'm trying to play this by ear and continue showing my interest in her. I spent most of last week looking forward to seeing her for lunch. In many ways, the meeting exceeded my expectations.
Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
The heart wants what the heart wants.

Lust is a dangerous game, son. Step back and look at the bigger picture. Somone's gonna get hurt.
Dad, I really like her and we share many interests and hobbies. Don't you want grandkids? She's too important to me to give up on.

The update from today is that I've continued textingM, weighed myself after my back workout (as usual, with only my socks, boxers, shorts, and t-shirt on) and I'm at 169 lbs. The cut seems to be going well, as I'm down ~4 lbs in 2.5 weeks. I'm pacing around the house more on my off days so I don't spend that time sitting and so I can burn more calories. I haven't approached any women at the gym this week. I should set a target of at least 1 approach between Friday & Saturday.
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
I like to show my interest in women, but remain respectful while doing so.

You gotta wear down their defenses, right?



you're quite desperate and your texts are pretty boring. I can see why they never responded.
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Originally Posted By SmartzAsianGuy⏩
you're quite desperate and your texts are pretty boring. I can see why they never responded.
Based 500th reply. They likely didn't respond because I lack clout and/or am not insanely GL. There's no magic formula for getting a reply from an attractive female I don't know.
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i think these experiences will help little by little. you seem to have the right attitude, just don't hurt yourself. there are billions of women, thinking that helps me
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It's unethical to sleep with someone in a relationship.

And, if she did cheat with you, that would instantly make her a classless whore. IMO she already is a classless attention whore, but that would cement it.
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
Based 500th reply. They likely didn't respond because I lack clout and/or am not insanely GL. There's no magic formula for getting a reply from an attractive female I don't know.
Stop it. I don't want you to be the guy in the PG-13 movie everyone's really hoping makes it happen. I want you to be like the guy in the rated R movie, you know, the guy you're not sure whether or not you like yet. You're not sure where he's coming from. Okay? You're a bad man. You're a bad man, boyo. You're a bad man, bad man.
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Originally Posted By resoog⏩
i think these experiences will help little by little. you seem to have the right attitude, just don't hurt yourself. there are billions of women, thinking that helps me
Thank you! First time seeing you in this thread. I agree that the experiences I've had since creating this thread have helped. Yeah, I see attractive women just about every time I step outside. This thread motivates me to work harder. No more of that incel, doomer life I used to live.
Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
It's unethical to sleep with someone in a relationship.

And, if she did cheat with you, that would instantly make her a classless whore. IMO she already is a classless attention whore, but that would cement it.
I agree that it is unethical. I want to be optimistic and say she likes me and that her and I could be together one day (whether it's because she's single or because she's cheating on her boyfriend). I've never known a woman to openly be friends with men who are interested in her. I don't want to say negative things, such as, "Maybe I'm just a texting buddy," or, "She's only interested in the attention I give her."
Originally Posted By HighTide11⏩
Stop it. I don't want you to be the guy in the PG-13 movie everyone's really hoping makes it happen. I want you to be like the guy in the rated R movie, you know, the guy you're not sure whether or not you like yet. You're not sure where he's coming from. Okay? You're a bad man. You're a bad man, boyo. You're a bad man, bad man.
Lol! I like your example. If you caught a whiff of my conversations, I think you'd know I'm not a bad man. I should probably have more of anedge(as a user in this thread pointed out), but I'm not sure how to do that and I'm afraid it wouldn't get me anywhere.
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
I agree that it is unethical. I want to be optimistic and say she likes me and that her and I could be together one day (whether it's because she's single or because she's cheating on her boyfriend). I've never known a woman to openly be friends with men who are interested in her. I don't want to say negative things, such as, "Maybe I'm just a texting buddy," or, "She's only interested in the attention I give her."
This is just classic naรฏve rationalization. I kinda hope she does cheat on her bf and gets into a relationship with you.

You'll learn an important lesson when she inevitably cheats on you in turn.

You'll initially thinkoh but she won't cheat on me, I'm different than him, failing to recognize it's her values (or lack thereof) that are the problem.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
This is just classic naรฏve rationalization. I kinda hope she does cheat on her bf and gets into a relationship with you.

You'll learn an important lesson when she inevitably cheats on you in turn.

You'll initially thinkoh but she won't cheat on me, I'm different than him, failing to recognize it's her values (or lack thereof) that are the problem.
If she and I got into a relationship, I'd let her know I'm not like her previous boyfriend: I'm not interested in her giving her number out to men, going on dates with men, etc. She should be content with the love and affection I provide her.
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it just keeps getting worse

absolutely delusional
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Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
I read that and I know what you mean. I've never treated women like those guys. That's one of the great things about this thread: I can track my progress over time and make adjustments. I am treating the current woman I'm interested in (whom I met this past Wednesday) the way I typically would, which is very well and with respect. In one of my recent texts I gave her a compliment about how she looked when doing an exercise. She thanked me for that. I am trying to keep it classy because that's generally how I am and I'm thinking she would be turned off by anything else. She knows I'm interested in her as more than a friend and she seems really interested in me. She and I both hint at being together (i.e., herlearningthings from me, me saying that her and I should watch a TV show together, etc.). I will escalate appropriately when her and I are on our date next Saturday.
Oh yeah, how much pussy are you getting from this strategy? Zero, because like I said women don't want extra pussies in their life. You have no chance bro, you won't even listen to someone who's where you're trying to be. If I broke up with my girl tomorrow, I could literally get multiple new girls every single week. A couple years ago, I called this one girl a dumb cow or something and look how she responded.



It ended up being well over twenty, and a few days later she was sucking my dick lol. Have fun getting no bitches for the rest of your life.
Originally Posted By SmartzAsianGuy⏩
you're quite desperate and your texts are pretty boring. I can see why they never responded.
Exactly.
Originally Posted By ArCaNe66⏩
Based 500th reply. They likely didn't respond because I lack clout and/or am not insanely GL. There's no magic formula for getting a reply from an attractive female I don't know.
Just keep trying this dumbass strategy then lololololol.
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
Honest question - who gives a chit?

This girl will never give you a straight answer as to why she strung you along and rejected you. She's doing it for her own safety, cause a lot of men flip the fuk out when they get rejected. Even if she does tell you something, it won't be the truth... it will be whatever she thinks is most likely to get you to fuk off and go away.

It's like a job interview. You've almost certainty been passed over after an interview before, but you'll never know why that was. Even if you called the hiring manager and asked him, he would never give you a straight answer, because he's paranoid about handing you ammo for a lawsuit.

It's the exact same chit here. This girl gains nothing by explaining her thought process to you, and risks you turning into a weirdo stalker or chit, so she's not going to do it.

I know you WANT that feedback, whether to improve yourself or feel better about the situation or what. But it's just not going to happen. Just drop it and quit texting her.

I went on a first date about a month ago that I thought went well. The girl ghosted me afterwards. And you bet I questioned myself afterwards. Did I say something stupid on the date? Did I text too much and kill the vibe? Was this a pity date all along? Chit like that. But I didn't ask her what was up, cause I knew that would be useless. I took no answerasthe answer and just dropped it there.
This is a fantastic post! It's good to see that some of you actually know how to handle these situations.
Originally Posted By HangingChad⏩
An extreme level of social autism and yet 3/6 women cold approached in the gym have given him their real number. Doesn't add up. All that said,

Getting numbers don't mean anything, that's why I usually try to **** ASAP (ideally a couple hours after just walking up to her in some random place lol). I've ****ed way more girls than most, yet the phone numbers I've gotten far exceed that number. You want to meet her immediately or immediately after what she's doing, even if you're not gonna **** that day. I literally went with a girl I just met on the subway to her COVID test a couple years ago, and ****ed her two hours later lol.
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