Many here talk of how a social circle is "crucial" for sub-Chad guys, and even still beneficial for Chad hermits obviously vs. being a lonesome loser. Yeah, sure, but no one really can put their finger on how a loner "builds one" they just vaguely touch on the subject.

However, virtually NOBODY on here explains how you go from zero social circle anymore post college/high school to being successfully "socialcirclemaxxxed." Like, it's how ****ing millionaires tell you to "just grind" to get out wageslavery as if that worked for most.

The ASSUMPTION here that "socialcirclemaxxed" means you are also "NT" or at least NT enough to supposedly reap the so-called benefits of said maxxing. Like if being NT/socialable "helped" then why was I able to have success without it? Proves it's not "required."

But how do you do it? Like, what does a loner with no money/social venues/connections do to build and be successful in a social circle, thus then reaping these benefits of sex, girlfriends, slays, good company/dopamine, etc. But how? HOW?! I've never had a proper social circle in my entire life, so is this all cope? I think so, if the benefits only come from Chad exposure it's then an avenue for Chad more than for normies.

I've been with girls/had girlfriends temporarily but NEVER had a real social circle. In high school I had a few friends, that's it ... Never was really "cool" or "fit in." Yet all of the guys I know who had social circles weren't getting any if they didn't have sex appeal to begin with.

I never went to college officially because poorcel ... No money. So if all of these "just be social" posts really means "have a lot of money to do ****" then it's not helpful for poorcels, or maybe an incel who lives in rural areas where money won't matter (there is not a strong need of it to "socialmaxx"). So if the bottom line is you NEED MORE SEX APPEAL, then why cope with muh circle if sex appeal > NT/friends?

So once again, for sub-Chads, is a social circle really even all that useful? I'm on the fence because some soys get girls doing it but given I have had girlfriends with NO SOCIAL CIRCLE I am not convinced it's a "requirement" to get the most out of your looks if you don't really have optimal looks 100%. Like if it's all a buncha Chads or Chadlites talking of "social maxxing" that's bull****, it's looks > social then ideally.

And yeah, muh "everything matters" muh muh BS I know, but IRL is there any big halo to merely have a meh social circle vs. not? I mean, even if it was possible how much would it benefit a normal looking guy with absolutely zero remarkable features or qualities, for example? Can't imagine him ascending much. So it's mostly just an avenue for Chadlite minimum to play numbers game more than anything.

So it's kinda BS many here say you "need" socialmaxxing but the ones who benefit from it most are ****ing GigaChads who could get 100+ lays in his basement through Tinder and make FWBs/connections that way. Meanwhile I feel I'd be putting in more work for very marginal benefits I'd otherwise get anyways. Like yeah I want friends but if friends don't get you pussy, are you really reaching your goals 100% then?

So explain ***GOTS how muh social circle works, how you build one over 30+ (for free) and how you fit in/succeed this way, or you're all full of ****/copes. I know I am a social retard who could use a social circle, but what grinds my gear is how it's dishonest in hw this works. You NEED the sex appeal first. YOU NEED THE LOOKS FIRST. At best a social circle keeps a sub-Chadlite/looks requirement guy from maybe roping and not being depressed, but I have drugs for that anyways. I want proof that socialmaxxing ascends low sex appeal *****s.

Cuz if it ain't ascending you and making you get sex easier and feeling validated, what is the real benefit there? Where is the contentment? It'd be like a buncha incels, or you'd be the loser in a group of sex-having dudes. I don't wanna be the 5th wheel of people, I wanna be the ****ing DOM who shows up & wins, not some autist who'd otherwise benefit little because sex appeal is where he caps at, not merely lack of a social grouping. So either show proof that low sex appeal dudes benefit with girls rather than just be incels with friends.

You need to be an important person who is charismatic and has something to offer other people.

It's easy bruh, just walk up, smile and say hi.

misc is my friend

Most people either keep their school friends or make friends through work. If not school/work friends then they are usually lonely.

No other way, you can’t make friends at a bar or club or social hobby.

Bars/clubs people are there with their current friends and don’t want to include other men into it.

Social hobbies, people are there with their current friends and go there for the hobby not to get hit on or make male friends.

Coed sports same thing, it’s already groups of friends or people including single girls; they don’t want random Guys joining it.

1. Your situation isn't unique (especially post-pandemic). It will be harder to find a social group if you're in a small town/retirement community.

2. This may be a bit of a gamble but you can look for connections on dating apps by setting your profile to "networking" You'll probably attract some faggs, but as long as they're not the fruity kind or try to hit on you then you'll be fine. Alternatively you can look up local events in your area that are taking place in your city (baseball/football/tennis/biking/running etc). You'll be with strangers who are all participating in an event you're all interested in (so you have something to talk about), and often times after the events they all go out to eat at a restaurant or a bar.

You said you didn't go to college, but you can still take a class or two at a local Community College, hell even night classes if you're working during the day. Tuition is dirt cheap and there are always TONS of events going on that you'll have access to for simply being a student.

3. If you have no friends now, you're not going to stumble onto "high-value" individuals with the first people you mingle with (its possible but highly unlikely). Your first friends will most likely be NPC officecels and tradies, but by connecting with them you can meet some of their friends and so on and so forth which you'll eventually land you in a group of higher value friends.

4. If you're that desperate for companions you have to want it yourself. Don't rely on them as a means of entertainment. If you want to go hang out you'll have to be the one to initiate the event yourself from time to time. Tell me this, even if you had a group of friends, what would you want to do?

Often times they do if its some obscure sport (lacross/rugby/frisbee golf/slack lining etc) and they're desperate for members.Unless you're in the modeling industry (or looking for a romantic relationship with them) your looks have nothing to do with making male friends. They shouldn't care if you're "ugly" and if they do then you're dodging a bullet as they're not the type of friends you want to have in the first place.

You might find a nice gay friend using bumble friend mode

The red pill on making friends is that, as a man, you have to provide value in some way for them to want to include you. If not your Chad looks or fat wallet, you have to be creative and find other ways to be a provider. Intellectually, comedically, professionally or even just labor if you have none of those. You think the guy making killer BBQ every weekend has trouble making friends?

I've lived in 4 different states and formed new social circles every time. I literally just got back from hanging out with some friends, not a single one of whom I knew before I moved here.