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Originally Posted By ArnoldLibCuck⏩
Yep, a lot of the McMansions that have been built since the 90s are usually built cheaply with substandard materials to be thrown up quick. Also, while I don't want to live in a shoebox, I at least want some space in the yard for working on cars and stuff.In 30 years, there will still be houses built in the 1950's, and even some from the 1940's that will be holding up better than a lot of houses built 50 - 80 years newer than them. Home construction quality took a huge nose dive in the 2000's that a lot of people don't realize.
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis⏩
Grandparents on both sides raised law abiding citizens (4/5 kids) in 1000 sq ft homes. Growing up in a working class small town, most people I went to school with lived in <1500 sq ft homes with their parents and siblings.Yup,you’d have to compromise all the time . Would be a pita.
There used to be a family that had ten boys and they lived in about 400 sq ft . It can be done ,but none of them turned out normal
There used to be a family that had ten boys and they lived in about 400 sq ft . It can be done ,but none of them turned out normal
09-02-2023, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
And a lot of people have the mindset of getting the MOST they can possibly afford...biggest home, biggest vehicle, biggest fanciest vacation, etc -- this is what keeps them working slaves until death or age 70 when they can barely move anymore. It's just a mindset that was engraved into from generations of people that had it engraved into them.A lot of people have big houses where they don't even go into most of it. I'm one of them. My house is like 3800sqft and I don't use hardly any of it. Probably going to sell it soon and get something smaller.
09-02-2023, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Yep. TBH when I put the bid in for my house, I didn't even see part of it until the home inspector showed it in his report However, it was the only one decent for the money at the time and I did need more house at the time. Now, it's just me and the dogs. You are right though, most people have that mentality.And a lot of people have the mindset of getting the MOST they can possibly afford...biggest home, biggest vehicle, biggest fanciest vacation, etc -- this is what keeps them working slaves until death or age 70 when they can barely move anymore. It's just a mindset that was engraved into from generations of people that had it engraved into them.
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Originally Posted By ArnoldLibCuck⏩
A lot of the newer homes built by dr horton are sketchy.In 30 years, there will still be houses built in the 1950's, and even some from the 1940's that will be holding up better than a lot of houses built 50 - 80 years newer than them. Home construction quality took a huge nose dive in the 2000's that a lot of people don't realize.
09-02-2023, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By blazenbb⏩
I agree with this. 1500 minimum living area (kitchen, living room, bedrooms, bathrooms) if you intend to have a family. Basement gives you a gym and a nice family room.Major COPE for your poverty lifestyle
1500 sq ft ranch with an unfinished walkout basement, tall ceilings, big bedrooms, closets, and bathrooms, long driveway, acreage
1500 sq ft ranch with an unfinished walkout basement, tall ceilings, big bedrooms, closets, and bathrooms, long driveway, acreage
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
Keeping up with the Joneses and proving we are a person to be envied is one of the most powerful drugs there is. People will devote their entire life to it while never actually feeling fulfilled.Yep. TBH when I put the bid in for my house, I didn't even see part of it until the home inspector showed it in his report However, it was the only one decent for the money at the time and I did need more house at the time. Now, it's just me and the dogs. You are right though, most people have that mentality.
09-02-2023, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Yeah, and people before them did not have plumbing. You should save money on your water bill by doing that also. You could also do something productive to produce value to afford a modern standard of living while also investing or saving money.Grandparents on both sides raised law abiding citizens (4/5 kids) in 1000 sq ft homes. Growing up in a working class small town, most people I went to school with lived in <1500 sq ft homes with their parents and siblings.
Keep rotting though. I am sure those around you have respect for your mindset. It is like those hyper mileage twats that drive around coasting their cars and pissing everyone off.
09-02-2023, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By FingerFood⏩
i just can't get motivated to obtain a home gym when there's a ymca less than 1 mile from my house with pools, basketball courts, sauna, steam room, etc.I agree with this. 1500 minimum living area (kitchen, living room, bedrooms, bathrooms) if you intend to have a family. Basement gives you a gym and a nice family room.
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Originally Posted By FingerFood⏩
Define: "modern standard of living".Yeah, and people before them did not have plumbing. You should save money on your water bill by doing that also. You could also do something productive to produce value to afford a modern standard of living while also investing or saving money.
Keep rotting though. I am sure those around you have respect for your mindset. It is like those hyper mileage twats that drive around coasting their cars and pissing everyone off.
Keep rotting though. I am sure those around you have respect for your mindset. It is like those hyper mileage twats that drive around coasting their cars and pissing everyone off.
Plumbing instead of an outhouse -- sure.
A car instead of a horse -- most definitely
The need for a 3,000+ sq ft house -- ???
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In fact, I've found a new appreciation it. As a retired person, I have no where to be at any certain time so I can drive slowly to save on gas AND reduce wear on my vehicle. Saving money AND pissing off the working bees that already hate life and feel pushed to the edge!

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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
You went from 1000 being perfect to over 3000 being too much. That is quite a gap.Define: "modern standard of living".
Plumbing instead of an outhouse -- sure.
A car instead of a horse -- most definitely
The need for a 3,000+ sq ft house -- ???
And BTW -- I love hypermiling!!
In fact, I've found a new appreciation it. As a retired person, I have no where to be at any certain time so I can drive slowly to save on gas AND reduce wear on my vehicle. Saving money AND pissing off the working bees that already hate life and feel pushed to the edge!
BTW -- I'm getting 25.8 mpg in a non hybrid gasoline truck!!!
Plumbing instead of an outhouse -- sure.
A car instead of a horse -- most definitely
The need for a 3,000+ sq ft house -- ???
And BTW -- I love hypermiling!!
In fact, I've found a new appreciation it. As a retired person, I have no where to be at any certain time so I can drive slowly to save on gas AND reduce wear on my vehicle. Saving money AND pissing off the working bees that already hate life and feel pushed to the edge!

BTW -- I'm getting 25.8 mpg in a non hybrid gasoline truck!!!
The indoor plumbing was due to your poor comparison to houses our grandparents raised their families in to modern standards of not living on top of each other (immigrants excluded). Seems like a silly statement since people have survived with much less in the past.
The hyper mileage twat was me saying you sound like a hyper mileage twat which is what you self admittedly are.
You give a strong impression of someone trying to justify their choice of lifestyle to themselves by constantly telling everyone else how great their choice was. We all know deep down you are not happy with what you have become and I sincerely hope you come to better terms with yourself.
09-02-2023, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By FingerFood⏩
Nothing inherently wrong with 2 siblings close in age sharing a bedroom. Fact.You went from 1000 being perfect to over 3000 being too much. That is quite a gap.
The indoor plumbing was due to your poor comparison to houses our grandparents raised their families in to modern standards of not living on top of each other (immigrants excluded). Seems like a silly statement since people have survived with much less in the past.
The hyper mileage twat was me saying you sound like a hyper mileage twat which is what you self admittedly are.
You give a strong impression of someone trying to justify their choice of lifestyle to themselves by constantly telling everyone else how great their choice was. We all know deep down you are not happy with what you have become and I sincerely hope you come to better terms with yourself.
The indoor plumbing was due to your poor comparison to houses our grandparents raised their families in to modern standards of not living on top of each other (immigrants excluded). Seems like a silly statement since people have survived with much less in the past.
The hyper mileage twat was me saying you sound like a hyper mileage twat which is what you self admittedly are.
You give a strong impression of someone trying to justify their choice of lifestyle to themselves by constantly telling everyone else how great their choice was. We all know deep down you are not happy with what you have become and I sincerely hope you come to better terms with yourself.
Two siblings sharing a bedroom is a far cry from not having indoor plumbing or riding horses instead of cars.
The level of anger/name calling in your posting and projection about "you must be unhappy" over some trivial thing like someone feeling 1000 sq ft is a good size for homes speaks volumes about your mental state homie. I feel bad that negativity has overcome you in such a way. Are you going to church tomorrow?
09-02-2023, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
That sounds like every middle class neighborhood built in the US in the last 25 yrs. Where I live in Raleigh it has changed a lot in the last 5 yrs. The only houses built in the last 5 yrs are McMansions, 4000 sq ft on the small side, plenty that are 5000+ sq ft. The majority of homes for sale are now are over $1 million. Get a mile closer to downtown and you're now going to be paying $550-800 per sq ft even if it was built during the disco era. The McMansions have different floorplans but identical exteriors - bright white with black metallic looking roofs. So I'm a bit skeptical that we aren't in a bubble.I've always lived 15-30 minutes outside Charlotte which is semi rural/rural. 95% of new developments are just rows and rows off of tightly packed 1800-3000 sq ft vinyl boxes on postage stamp sized lots....they change some of the trim stuff on the outside to attempt giving them different looks.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
That sounds pretty awesomeMy dream house is 10+ acres, 3500sq ft single level plus a finished basement, 4-6 car garage, and here's the kicker, two ADUs, maybe 600-700sq ft each to be used as guest quarters. I like having family over, just not too close.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Not sure where you got the anger from. Just stated hyper mileage people are twats and made the observation that you are the militant vegan version of a povertycel.Nothing inherently wrong with 2 siblings close in age sharing a bedroom. Fact.
Two siblings sharing a bedroom is a far cry from not having indoor plumbing or riding horses instead of cars.
The level of anger/name calling in your posting and projection about "you must be unhappy" over some trivial thing like someone feeling 1000 sq ft is a good size for homes speaks volumes about your mental state homie. I feel bad that negativity has overcome you in such a way. Are you going to church tomorrow?
Two siblings sharing a bedroom is a far cry from not having indoor plumbing or riding horses instead of cars.
The level of anger/name calling in your posting and projection about "you must be unhappy" over some trivial thing like someone feeling 1000 sq ft is a good size for homes speaks volumes about your mental state homie. I feel bad that negativity has overcome you in such a way. Are you going to church tomorrow?
I am actually quite chill right now. Laying on a sofa on a beach in Spain listening to waves crash.
Over the past few months I have just noticed the threads you are constantly making as if you are on an ethical crusade which appears to be more a battle between you and your shadow.
I am unemotionally making the statement that you read as a person with internal conflict and should consider this for your own health. I apologize if my previous posts made you think otherwise.
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Originally Posted By FingerFood⏩
Out of all my years on the internet I've never put so much thought into who a person is based on what they post about. The fact that you've done that in regards to me lets me know that I'm hitting on things you know to be true yet make you uncomfortable. Are you going to church tomorrow?Not sure where you got the anger from. Just stated hyper mileage people are twats and made the observation that you are the militant vegan version of a povertycel.
I am actually quite chill right now. Laying on a sofa on a beach in Spain listening to waves crash.
Over the past few months I have just noticed the threads you are constantly making as if you are on an ethical crusade which appears to be more a battle between you and your shadow.
I am unemotionally making the statement that you read as a person with internal conflict and should consider this for your own health. I apologize if my previous posts made you think otherwise.
I am actually quite chill right now. Laying on a sofa on a beach in Spain listening to waves crash.
Over the past few months I have just noticed the threads you are constantly making as if you are on an ethical crusade which appears to be more a battle between you and your shadow.
I am unemotionally making the statement that you read as a person with internal conflict and should consider this for your own health. I apologize if my previous posts made you think otherwise.
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I never understood having a huge house with tons of space unless you plan on raising a big family with about half a dozen kids in it. All that extra space always seem like such a chore to maintain. Everyone I've known who buys huge homes always invariably end up spending many hundreds, if not thousands of extra dollars a month filling it with stuff, much of which they will barely use over the years. Almost every dude I know who buys a place like that ends up moaning about how they can't wait to sell it some day.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Your posts/threads are written for yourself and are attempts at justification for your choices.Out of all my years on the internet I've never put so much thought into who a person is based on what they post about. The fact that you've done that in regards to me lets me know that I'm hitting on things you know to be true yet make you uncomfortable. Are you going to church tomorrow?
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Originally Posted By ArnoldLibCuck⏩
Hitting on a lot of truth there. Granted, I don't begrudge anyone for wanting what they want (I know how angry some get). The stories you hear of people retiring and greatly downsizing are extremely common...in retirement they want less worries and not the job of running a home larger than what they need.I never understood having a huge house with tons of space unless you plan on raising a big family with about half a dozen kids in it. All that extra space always seem like such a chore to maintain. Everyone I've known who buys huge homes always invariably end up spending many hundreds, if not thousands of extra dollars a month filling it with stuff, much of which they will barely use over the years. Almost every dude I know who buys a place like that ends up moaning about how they can't wait to sell it some day.
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Originally Posted By FingerFood⏩
I have no idea who you are or what you post.Your posts/threads are written for yourself and are attempts at justification for your choices.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
That is because I am not in here starting threads to try and justify my lifestyle every day.I have no idea who you are or what you post.
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Originally Posted By FingerFood⏩
And you know, there's nothing wrong with being and wanting to be a povertycel, but when you're spending all day bragging about what you don't have, it's kinda weird.Your posts/threads are written for yourself and are attempts at justification for your choices.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By FingerFood⏩
Or perhaps nothing you have to say is thought provoking enough to inspire followers...like you obviously follow me.That is because I am not in here starting posts to try and justify my lifestyle every day.
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Originally Posted By Trillical⏩
This is the kind of thing that makes me shake my head at housebuilding in the US. With the amount of red tape and permits involved, the threshold of build quality that gets signed off is horrifically low.A lot of the newer homes built by dr horton are sketchy.
At the price point of the average home, $10-20k extra spend on materials would improve the average new build far more in percentage terms than it would increase the price.
Instead of states requiring solar, eco boilers etc, require higher standards in basic construction.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
The constant attempts at justification and validation are the concerning thing.And you know, there's nothing wrong with being and wanting to be a povertycel, but when you're spending all day bragging about what you don't have, it's kinda weird.
His threads consist of him approving statements by anyone that agrees with his initial statement, disagreeing with anyone that has a contrary opinion, mocking people that have jobs, and arguing with people that call him out for being a rotter.
If his threads are not about validation, what is their purpose?
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Originally Posted By FingerFood⏩
Gotta love it when two fans get together whacking each other off in agreement that, in the words of Ali -- "he's a baaaadddd man"The constant attempts at justification and validation are the concerning thing.
His threads consist of him approving statements by anyone that agrees with his initial statement, disagreeing with anyone that has a contrary opinion, mocking people that have jobs, and arguing with people that call him out for being a rotter.
If his threads are not about validation, what is their purpose?
His threads consist of him approving statements by anyone that agrees with his initial statement, disagreeing with anyone that has a contrary opinion, mocking people that have jobs, and arguing with people that call him out for being a rotter.
If his threads are not about validation, what is their purpose?
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
You are a bad man, that is 100% the truth.Gotta love it when two fans get together whacking each other off in agreement that, in the words of Ali -- "he's a baaaadddd man"
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I like it. I don't keep up with anything you post but feels good being upside you to the degree I am. Groupies.You are a bad man, that is 100% the truth.
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