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post 1689442103 09-03-2023, 08:51 AM
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Why do people’s lives immediately get better when they accept Jesus Christ?

I’m not even a religious person but I see it ALL THE TIME.

People will be at rock bottom (junkies, gone to prison, lost limbs in an accident, lost loved ones in a tragedy, etc.), their lives in shambles, yet somehow, someway they find Christianity and it’s like a switch gets flipped. Now they’re positive, energetic, have good paying jobs, tons of friends, opportunities seemingly fall in their laps. And it’s like immediately after they get born again.

Dunno if I believe it’s literally Christ’s intervention, but I’ve noticed it too often anecdotally to ignore. There’s gotta be something to it srs.
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Typically because it's accompanied with making better choices.
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Go from no morals, to morals.

Religion was created for exactly that reason. People are too weak and stupid. They need an imaginary friend and/or fear of eternal punishment.
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It's a distraction. Like the wheel in a hamster cage.
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The term “accept” never made any sense to me.

Or “find”

Oh I found God

I accepted Jesus


It’s like where did you find him? Under your floorboards? In the woods?


You accepted him? Like begrudgingly? “I’ve come to accept that I’ll never find a woman. I have accepted that I have cancer. I also accepted Jesus”


Lol @ thinking a dead Jewish insurrectionist is sitting up there in heaven looking down on you lovingly as you go to church, and then shakes his head with disapproval as you jerk off to tranny porn. “Jesus I’ve lost my way with these temptations, I’m really struggling right now”


Post on ********: “I’ve recently been tempted by Satan but came back to the Lord and now I am back on a righteous path” because you managed to go 3 days without jerking off to tranny porn.


The idea that the creator of the entire universe would even be remotely concerned with the daily doldrums of your boring, useless, worthless, stupid life is the highest form of hubris and conceit.

That you believe you have a read on and a direct line to the omnipotent savior of humanity whereas everyone you don’t like doesn’t and is going to be tortured for eternity is the most concerning delusion possible.

“God has a plan for my life”
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Research has shown patients that believe in a higher power/faith/prayer improve their condition at a higher rate than those that don't srs.

Could this be due to the psychological effects having hope has on the body? maybe. Could it be the actual power of the lord? maybe.

Based on the study I saw, it didn't seem to matter which being they believed in, they all got better. But I am a Christian by choice.
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Where's that message from Ron when you need it
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post 1689444493 09-03-2023, 09:39 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1QNZV7K5P4

Worth watching. Way he explains sin was a paradigm shift for me.
post 1689445363 09-03-2023, 09:53 AM
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It's very simple; ignore the agnostic pseudo-intelligent incels ITT that haven't touched grass since August



You were given free will to make choices in this living sandbox, the ability to create your own children; even told how to live your life should nature allow you to

All that was asked in return is to love yourself, your neighbor & your creator as you are loved beyond comprehension(like you endlessly love your children)



Despite knowing these things for 2500 years, people today are filled with remorse & hate in their hearts because society has chosen to stray from that one simple truth

You focus on pointless things like money & materialism; you will always end up miserable; this is why the poorest countries hold the happiest persons






Earth is a brootal place, you can be eaten alive(literally) but that's because humanity has chosen to live in a completely unnatural way

Everything that befalls man is his own fault & doing
*Tolerance is the lube that slides the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of civilized society*

*We didn't deserve snailsrus*

As always: not medical advice but medical opinion crew
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Loved beyond comprehension, but also doomed to an eternity in hellfire as Ron says?
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When you follow the teachings of Jesus and the Bible it helps make existence more like “heaven”

When you spiral down a path of sin life becomes more akin to hell.

Living a certain way because of reward or punishment in the afterlife is for kids and low iq. The Bible is a path to happiness in the present.

Not saying it’s the only way, but it’s a sure fire path proven for thousands of years.
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah
Research has shown patients that believe in a higher power/faith/prayer improve their condition at a higher rate than those that don't srs.
Could this be due to the psychological effects having hope has on the body? maybe. Could it be the actual power of the lord? maybe.
I'd wager its more the former. It feels good to believe there's a reason for why things are the way they are, or that its all a test and that some "Being" is looking after you, and is secretly in control. It makes the individual feel at ease that they're not "alone" which reduces stress which in turn lowers cortisol levels which reduces inflammation in the body. Less inflammation in the body means lower blood pressure, less pain, and wounds that will heal faster.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
I'd wager its more the former. It feels good to believe there's a reason for why things are the way they are, or that its all a test and that some "Being" is looking after you, and is secretly in control. It makes the individual feel at ease that they're not "alone" which reduces stress which in turn lowers cortisol levels which reduces inflammation in the body. Less inflammation in the body means lower blood pressure, less pain, and wounds that will heal faster.
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This is wrong.

The moment Jesus was baptized He was placed into the desert for 40days to be tempted by the devil.

We are to expect the same, when we come to Jesus we will encounter struggles just the same as Jesus did.

Preaching the prosperity gospel is wrong.

I’d recommend watching a free documentary on YouTube called
“The American Gospel”

It’ll show you the dangers of preaching this false message.
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Originally Posted By 401Delta
It's a distraction. Like the wheel in a hamster cage.
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God will let us run as far away from him as our heart desires...he's consistent though and will always be there when we choose to come back.
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
God will let us run as far away from him as our heart desires...he's consistent though and will always be there when we choose to come back.
Except when he sends you to hell for eternity to punish you LOL wow what a loving father
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Originally Posted By blissful88
It's very simple; ignore the agnostic pseudo-intelligent incels ITT that haven't touched grass since August



You were given free will to make choices in this living sandbox, the ability to create your own children; even told how to live your life should nature allow you to

All that was asked in return is to love yourself, your neighbor & your creator as you are loved beyond comprehension(like you endlessly love your children)



Despite knowing these things for 2500 years, people today are filled with remorse & hate in their hearts because society has chosen to stray from that one simple truth

You focus on pointless things like money & materialism; you will always end up miserable; this is why the poorest countries hold the happiest persons






Earth is a brootal place, you can be eaten alive(literally) but that's because humanity has chosen to live in a completely unnatural way

Everything that befalls man is his own fault & doing
The poorest countries do not hold the happiest people.

Are you retarded?
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Originally Posted By 401Delta
The poorest countries do not hold the happiest people.

Are you retarded?
Truly mankind is at his best when huddled in the dark in the bushes, staring up at the stars in terror and confusion, banging rocks together, believing in superstitions.

All of these things like plumbing, roadways, engineering, medicine, electricity, and agriculture are just the tools of an unhappy sinner who worships science instead of the Lord.
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Originally Posted By Ausaric
Truly mankind is at his best when huddled in the dark in the bushes, staring up at the stars in terror and confusion, banging rocks together, believing in superstitions.

All of these things like plumbing, roadways, engineering, medicine, electricity, and agriculture are just the tools of an unhappy sinner who worships science instead of the Lord.
I know the religious folk will take offense to this post, but there are some truths to this. If we just sat around and relied on faith for our lives to get better and didn't question phenomena that we often attributed to the almighty power of god then we probably wouldn't be where we are technologically.
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Gee I wonder why.

Atheism: Little rock flying through nothingness which means we are worthless and our lives are meaningless and we are just animals that are parasites to this place we call Earth. ZOMG life is meaningless and do as you please without consequence because you just end up in the cold ground at the end of it all. Life is just suffering.

Godcels: Life inherently has purpose and be grateful for what you have and the beauty that comes of this life. Everything has purpose and meaning and you have the ability to choose a path of difficulty living a correct moral way in turn receiving a fulfilling life with purpose OR you can choose the influence of evil of sinning and pleasures or comforts of the world at the expense of the long term fulfillment and beauty of this world. You have hope, faith a sense of duty to your fellow man by being a servant of God who gave you this life.

However, it is one thing to proclaim you are something without living it. I'd say just as many "religious" kunts are just as bad, sinful or broken than someone that is agnostic or atheist simply because they don't act in congruence with what they preach or believe. It's not some magic spell or words you say that makes you some holy being in any way, and a lot of times the worst kinds of people hide behind these things to cover their evil.

SO it really boils down to what you DO and how closely you live towards the will of God than preaching, labeling or talking about it while you "do as thou wilt" through life. That's actually even worse imo. So if someone at their worst starts believing in God and their actions actually start to match the word of God , then of course they will always end up doing better.
Originally Posted By Ausaric
Truly mankind is at his best when huddled in the dark in the bushes, staring up at the stars in terror and confusion, banging rocks together, believing in superstitions.

All of these things like plumbing, roadways, engineering, medicine, electricity, and agriculture are just the tools of an unhappy sinner who worships science instead of the Lord.
Bro no hate but you were trying to kill yourself with alchohol and every aspect of your life was a complaint from chicks to your parents to your work and your health despite living in the most comfortable society probably ever and you yourself claimed you stopped believe in all that God stuff. So I'd relax with the sarcasm from a point of condescending tone here when your life that you talked about on here seems in exact correlation with what he was saying.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Bro no hate but you were trying to kill yourself with alchohol and every aspect of your life was a complaint from chicks to your parents to your work and your health despite living in the most comfortable society probably ever and you yourself claimed you stopped believe in all that God stuff. So I'd relax with the sarcasm from a point of condescending tone here when your life that you talked about on here seems in exact correlation with what he was saying.
Thread title could just as well have been Ignorance is Bliss.
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What is the claim I don't understand. I've heard that from many religions.
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Originally Posted By Ausaric
The term “accept” never made any sense to me.

Or “find”

Oh I found God

I accepted Jesus


It’s like where did you find him? Under your floorboards? In the woods?


You accepted him? Like begrudgingly? “I’ve come to accept that I’ll never find a woman. I have accepted that I have cancer. I also accepted Jesus”

it’s an attempt at describing how it feels when their thoughts line up with “this was a sign from god in my life that this is the correct path”. When a new level of belief forms in your mind in such a way it feels exactly like “finding” something in your path. You are taking words very literally which I believe would be due to a mild autism? I believe this may continue to show why you can’t get along well with more abstract ideas.

When someone says the accept god or Jesus their are implications of “I wasn’t willing to think this way before, but I can now that I believe in this message”


Lol @ thinking a dead Jewish insurrectionist is sitting up there in heaven looking down on you lovingly as you go to church, and then shakes his head with disapproval as you jerk off to tranny porn. “Jesus I’ve lost my way with these temptations, I’m really struggling right now”

and here we get a bunch of implied fairy tail setting interpretations, which is no wonder why you can look at the Bible as some ridiculous thing. The Bible doesn’t say people are hanging around the same as they were in this life in the clouds like a cartoon heaven. The Bible doesn’t make any claims to try and explain the physics of existence or how consciousness works etc.. so trying to just paint an elementary school picture of things instead of thinking there could be a “source of consciousness that reaches out to living brains as if they were antennas” and death involves consciousness going back to a living source which could be construed as a holy presence or from god whatever”. Now that’s not necessarily what I believe, I believe we can’t understand or make stupid assumptions about the Devine from a human perspective. We don’t have the faculties, perspective, or tools to properly describe something out of our scope of knowledge. It might experience reality completely different, etc…

The point is the majority of your issues with the Bible come from using an autistic interpretation of people trying to relate the messages they received from something outside their scope of understanding.



Post on ********: “I’ve recently been tempted by Satan but came back to the Lord and now I am back on a righteous path” because you managed to go 3 days without jerking off to tranny porn.


The idea that the creator of the entire universe would even be remotely concerned with the daily doldrums of your boring, useless, worthless, stupid life is the highest form of hubris and conceit.

the idea that you could have any insight into the creator is the exact same level of hubris and conceit

That you believe you have a read on and a direct line to the omnipotent savior of humanity whereas everyone you don’t like doesn’t and is going to be tortured for eternity is the most concerning delusion possible.
more human interpretations, it actually explicitly says like 100 times and places we don’t judge god does, and anyone saying “your going to hell” is putting their words in gods mouth, just because millions do it wrong doesn’t mean the Bible says it wrong
“God has a plan for my life”
Originally Posted By Ausaric
Loved beyond comprehension, but also doomed to an eternity in hellfire as Ron says?
Originally Posted By Ausaric
Except when he sends you to hell for eternity to punish you LOL wow what a loving father
How is warning someone if you do this xyz will happen. He made a universe with consequences and told us how to avoid it. Even the assumption eternal hellfire being damnation after death is more human interpretation. How you experience life and if life on earth is the “eternity of our existence”. Then merely living a sinful life resulting in a ****ty horrible life filled with bad things could self fulfill that depending on how interpreting went. It’s why you don’t do it and just listen to what you should try to do which actually gets boiled down to “love your fellow man”. Which is literally the only actual guidepost a Christian needs to use while helping others. Everything else is a guide for your own moral compass. Not a tool to bludgeon and oppress
Originally Posted By Ausaric
Truly mankind is at his best when huddled in the dark in the bushes, staring up at the stars in terror and confusion, banging rocks together, believing in superstitions.

All of these things like plumbing, roadways, engineering, medicine, electricity, and agriculture are just the tools of an unhappy sinner who worships science instead of the Lord.
the majority of those inventions all sprang from good Christian men showing their love for their fellow man, the majority of problems you have with religion come from people who can’t actually follow the word of the Bible, orthodox does the best at not assuming on the Devine
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