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CIA 'bribed' their OWN analysts to say COVID did NOT come from Wuhan
CIA whistleblower claims agency 'bribed' their OWN analysts to say COVID did NOT come from Wuhan

Select Subcommittee letter to CIA Director Burns:
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A CIA whistleblower recently told Congress that the agency bribed its own analysts to say Covid-19 did not originate in a Wuhan lab, according to two Republicans.
According to a senior-level current agency officer, the CIA assigned seven officers to a Covid discovery team. At the end of their investigation six of the seven believed the intelligence pointed to a low-confidence assessment that Covid-19 originated in a lab.
The seventh member, the most senior on the team, believed it evolved naturally. The other six were then given a 'significant monetary incentive to change their position,' according to the whistleblower.
Reps. Mike Turner, R-Ohio, and Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, who lead the Intelligence and Covid committees respectively, wrote a letter Tuesday to CIA director William Burns demanding all documents on the matter.
The lawmakers set a September 26 deadline for the CIA to turn over all records involving the COVID discovery team and all communications with the FBI, State Department, Health and Human Services, Energy Department about the matter.
The Department of Energy, which oversees biological research labs in the U.S., concluded with 'low confidence' in February of this year that the virus most likely came from a lab in Wuhan. The FBI concluded the same with moderate confidence.
Five other intelligence bodies concluded that natural transmission - the theory the virus jumped from an animal to a human host - more likely. The CIA ultimately refused to make an assessment even with low confidence.
U.S. officials have remained frustrated with China's stonewalling of their own efforts to get to the bottom of the virus' origins. Now they may never definitively conclude where it all started - authorities in China destroyed some virus samples and used up others in research, U.S. officials say.
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a declassified report in June that laid out their inconclusive findings.
'All agencies continue to assess that both a natural and laboratory-associated origin remain plausible hypotheses to explain the first human infection,' the report said.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-cover-up.htmlAccording to a senior-level current agency officer, the CIA assigned seven officers to a Covid discovery team. At the end of their investigation six of the seven believed the intelligence pointed to a low-confidence assessment that Covid-19 originated in a lab.
The seventh member, the most senior on the team, believed it evolved naturally. The other six were then given a 'significant monetary incentive to change their position,' according to the whistleblower.
Reps. Mike Turner, R-Ohio, and Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, who lead the Intelligence and Covid committees respectively, wrote a letter Tuesday to CIA director William Burns demanding all documents on the matter.
The lawmakers set a September 26 deadline for the CIA to turn over all records involving the COVID discovery team and all communications with the FBI, State Department, Health and Human Services, Energy Department about the matter.
The Department of Energy, which oversees biological research labs in the U.S., concluded with 'low confidence' in February of this year that the virus most likely came from a lab in Wuhan. The FBI concluded the same with moderate confidence.
Five other intelligence bodies concluded that natural transmission - the theory the virus jumped from an animal to a human host - more likely. The CIA ultimately refused to make an assessment even with low confidence.
U.S. officials have remained frustrated with China's stonewalling of their own efforts to get to the bottom of the virus' origins. Now they may never definitively conclude where it all started - authorities in China destroyed some virus samples and used up others in research, U.S. officials say.
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a declassified report in June that laid out their inconclusive findings.
'All agencies continue to assess that both a natural and laboratory-associated origin remain plausible hypotheses to explain the first human infection,' the report said.

Select Subcommittee letter to CIA Director Burns:
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But this still changes absolutely nothing WRT to the empirical evidence for either theory, both natural and lab leak. All the actual evidence is still on the side of the natural.
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
No it doesn’t and you are a shill retardBut this still changes absolutely nothing WRT to the empirical evidence for either theory, both natural and lab leak. All the actual evidence is still on the side of the natural.
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
It was literally designed and optimized for gain of function amongst humans and that’s exactly what they were testing illegally in china. How much bullchit are you willing to swallow?
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Uh, no, it's not designed for human specificity. There's a wealth of evidence to the contrary. What is with you right-wingers and making chit up and simply believing what you want to believe?No it doesn’t and you are a shill retard
It was literally designed and optimized for gain of function amongst humans and that’s exactly what they were testing illegally in china. How much bullchit are you willing to swallow?
It was literally designed and optimized for gain of function amongst humans and that’s exactly what they were testing illegally in china. How much bullchit are you willing to swallow?
Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Whatever happened to it being racist to blame Chyna for it?Whatever happened China should be punished for how they covered it up and allowed flights out but not in, disappeared scientists, etc.
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09-12-2023, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Bro.. the OP posted a Daily Mail article which clearly is intended to dupe their low IQ consumers into believing whatever nonsense they're pushing.But this still changes absolutely nothing WRT to the empirical evidence for either theory, both natural and lab leak. All the actual evidence is still on the side of the natural.
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
We all know that saying "we don't know" when they actually don't know (and still don't) is proof to Republicans that there was clearly something worth investigating going on here..
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
You watch Richard Mandow Pat.Bro.. the OP posted a Daily Mail article which clearly is intended to dupe their low IQ consumers into believing whatever nonsense they're pushing.
We all know that saying "we don't know" when they actually don't know (and still don't) is proof to Republicans that there was clearly something worth investigating going on here..
We all know that saying "we don't know" when they actually don't know (and still don't) is proof to Republicans that there was clearly something worth investigating going on here..
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09-12-2023, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Just when I think someone can't be this ignorant and naive, bodhy proves it's possible. So arrogant he vastly over estimates his own intelligence and vastly underestimates everyone else's.But this still changes absolutely nothing WRT to the empirical evidence for either theory, both natural and lab leak. All the actual evidence is still on the side of the natural.
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
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09-12-2023, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
You mean like calling covid-19 the Kung Flu? Because he was clearly talking about the same idiot who said that, failing miserably to stop the virus from coming into this country.Whatever happened to it being racist to blame Chyna for it?
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
It’s racist to blame random Chinese, especially immigrants. The CCP however is evil. I’ve certainly not said otherwise for a long time.Whatever happened to it being racist to blame Chyna for it?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
It’s really weird this is a hard concept to grasp. I mean at its worst Taiwanese immigrants were being blamed. You literally probably can’t find anyone that hates the CCP more than someone from Taiwan that didn’t feel safe in their own country.You mean like calling covid-19 the Kung Flu? Because he was clearly talking about the same idiot who said that, failing miserably to stop the virus from coming into this country.
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
09-12-2023, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Could ask you the same. The comment I replied to was a great example.What is with you right-wingers and making chit up and simply believing what you want to believe?
All of your posts here are based on propaganda produced before the hearings and all the evidence was laid wide open. Private Emails between scientists, money trails, and evidence of conspiracies to keep everything secret from the public. They were "leaking" propaganda to the media to fool the public.
Meanwhile, you're being a shill, spitting the propaganda, completely unaware of what you're doing, or are you? Maybe you are aware, but you're a state actor?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Whatever.. And is it really that important to be PC about the deadliest black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM in the history of mankind?You mean like calling covid-19 the Kung Flu? Because he was clearly talking about the same idiot who said that, failing miserably to stop the virus from coming into this country.
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
After all Pat, you all were the one pushig the fear porn over it... Now we're supposed to be nice about it?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
fixed it for ya, retard.Not a shred of evidence is still on the side of the natural.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Patient 0 was a scientist. But yeah, totally natural from a wet shop.But this still changes absolutely nothing WRT to the empirical evidence for either theory, both natural and lab leak. All the actual evidence is still on the side of the natural.
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Whatever... you asked - I answered.Whatever.. And is it really that important to be PC about the deadliest black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM in the history of mankind?
After all Pat, you all were the one pushig the fear porn over it... Now we're supposed to be nice about it?
After all Pat, you all were the one pushig the fear porn over it... Now we're supposed to be nice about it?
But I noticed you didn't answermyquestion.. shocker.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Don't be, it is always about YOU(RINSE AND REPEAT) not them, the silence is deafening.Whatever... you asked - I answered.
But I noticed you didn't answermyquestion.. shocker.
But I noticed you didn't answermyquestion.. shocker.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
OR, instead of screeching like a phаggot about the source, you could have read the letter to CIA Director Burns that I posted in the OP from the Select Subcommittee and Committee on Intelligence.Bro.. the OP posted a Daily Mail article which clearly is intended to dupe their low IQ consumers into believing whatever nonsense they're pushing.
We all know that saying "we don't know" when they actually don't know (and still don't) is proof to Republicans that there was clearly something worth investigating going on here..
We all know that saying "we don't know" when they actually don't know (and still don't) is proof to Republicans that there was clearly something worth investigating going on here..
Idiot.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Blood donations show the virus was in the US was by late November/early December 2019. The existence of the SARS2 virus was not even known at that time, much less where it came from. How does anyone stop a quick spreading virus months after it has already been spreading?You mean like calling covid-19 the Kung Flu? Because he was clearly talking about the same idiot who said that, failing miserably to stop the virus from coming into this country.
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Any question you ask is pretty much irrelevant but ok Pat, I'll play along...Whatever... you asked - I answered.
But I noticed you didn't answermyquestion.. shocker.
But I noticed you didn't answermyquestion.. shocker.
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
He did block travel from China, and you all lost your fuking minds. So don't even try to say he should have done it sooner.Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
And I can also remember the screams of outrage from you all over him pushing out the vaccine too soon, and your outright refusal to take it.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Im old enough to remember when Trump was called a racist and anti-asian for blocking travel from china...You mean like calling covid-19 the Kung Flu? Because he was clearly talking about the same idiot who said that, failing miserably to stop the virus from coming into this country.
Btw..Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
Btw..Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
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Ass still burned from me making you look stupid these past couple of days, huh Benny.Don't be, it is always about YOU(RINSE AND REPEAT) not them, the silence is deafening.

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
What causes you to lose your **** when someone talks about it being leaked from a lab????But this still changes absolutely nothing WRT to the empirical evidence for either theory, both natural and lab leak. All the actual evidence is still on the side of the natural.
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
So, say, hypothetically, some creationist religious institute pays eminent scientists to publicly state that evolution is in doubt. What would that change WRT to the actual empirical evidence for evolution?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Please give us an exact date when Trump knew the virus was deadly.You mean like calling covid-19 the Kung Flu? Because he was clearly talking about the same idiot who said that, failing miserably to stop the virus from coming into this country.
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
I believe he banned travel from China on January 31, 2020.
So how many "months and months ahead" did Trump really know about the virus and how deadly it was?
Please cite sources.
Thx.
09-12-2023, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
You didn't answer my question.Any question you ask is pretty much irrelevant but ok Pat, I'll play along...
He did block travel from China, and you all lost your fuking minds. So don't even try to say he should have done it sooner.
And I can also remember the screams of outrage from you all over him pushing out the vaccine too soon, and your outright refusal to take it.
He did block travel from China, and you all lost your fuking minds. So don't even try to say he should have done it sooner.
And I can also remember the screams of outrage from you all over him pushing out the vaccine too soon, and your outright refusal to take it.
Try again.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
OMG he said Kung Flu........You mean like calling covid-19 the Kung Flu? Because he was clearly talking about the same idiot who said that, failing miserably to stop the virus from coming into this country.
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
Btw.. Trump knew months and months ahead of the country that this virus was deadly... why didn't he block all travel from China during the months before when it would have actually helped?
And blocking all travel from China wouldn't have stopped anything you ****ing retard, what, it's gonna spread throughout the entire world except the US???
Oh, I forgot, we were supposed to live life like your worthless in laws, staying indoors 24/7 and never leaving the residence.....
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We’ve been over this several times with the site trolls. Trump was called xenophobic when he tried to stop travel from China. Then they reversed course and made up the narrative that he didn’t stop it in time. You can’t win with extremists and their propaganda. It’s “day at a time mentality” with the left. They react emotionally in the moment and completely throw away everything they already know. It’s a complete lack of logic and reason.Please give us an exact date when Trump knew the virus was deadly.
I believe he banned travel from China on January 31, 2020.
So how many "months and months ahead" did Trump really know about the virus and how deadly it was?
Please cite sources.
Thx.
I believe he banned travel from China on January 31, 2020.
So how many "months and months ahead" did Trump really know about the virus and how deadly it was?
Please cite sources.
Thx.
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